According to Grok on Liam Ramos and Family

[EnergizedLib]

- The family came here legally in December 2024, seeking asylum and entered through a port of entry

- There is no order of deportation at the time of detention

- There are no documented crimes committed by the father

Yet, seven members of our own party voted to give ICE-Is *more* money yesterday.

You want immigration enforcement? You want people to enforce the law and deport people here illegally? Do it with trained, qualified personnel who know the law and are accountable without masks and wearing body cameras. Demilitarization must happen.

Those goons and the White House need to be in prison.

[highplainsdem]

1. There are a lot more reliable sources of information than chatbots. And they're more ethical to use.

[EnergizedLib]

2. I respectfully do not know of any

And I pretty much have to be on Twitter for my job purposes.

[highplainsdem]

5. Really? Don't know of any sources more reliable than a chatbot that hallucinates and can give a

different answer to the same prompt every time it's asked?

[EnergizedLib]

9. I'm objectively not very proficient in knowledge of chatbots

[highplainsdem]

10. Really? You've said in the past on DU that you're a journalist, you've mentioned Google,

and you've posted links to news stories - real news stories, not Grok.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100220373842

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100220133456

But now you want us to believe that you don't know of any more reliable sources of info than chatbots like Grok? And somehow despite all the news stories for years on chatbot errors including when they're used to write news stories, you're "not very proficient in knowledge of chatbots"?

Okay...

[EnergizedLib]

11. I don't cover hard news, I cover prep sports

There’s a big difference and I don’t rely on AI for my work.

[highplainsdem]

12. It's fortunate for your employer that you don't rely on AI for your work. But you do know what hard

news is, you've posted hard news links, you've referred to Google. You know what reliable sources are.

And you don't have to use chatbots to know that they get a lot wrong. To NOT know that, you'd've had to be unaware of all the news stories and social media posts about chatbot errors the last few years. Including on both DU and Twitter.

Where the Today's News summaries generated by Grok, the very first things you see if you use search on Twitter, all end with this warning: Grok can make mistakes, verify its outputs.

For instance:
https://x.com/i/trending/2014476105181507675

It's good that Twitter warns people about Grok. I've seen Grok confuse Musk's ex, the pop singer Grimes, with more than one athlete with the last name Grimes, in its news summaries. And when checking trending topics, I've sometimes seen nearly identical queries for Grok get radically different answers, seconds apart. Just as image generators can offer lots of different images in response to a single prompt, text-generating chatbots can offer endless options in replies. The only reason they aren't usually set to do so, offering simultaneous text options to choose from the way Midjourney offers image options simultaneously, is that it makes it all too obvious that chatbots aren't really intelligent and aren't thinking.

That's a very standard disclaimer for Grok, btw. AI companies are so aware of how many errors their bots make that they always warn people to check results with more reliable sources. Helps them try to shift legal liability for any particularly harmful errors from their chatbot to users who make the mistake of trusting it.

Anyway, it seems very puzzling that a journalist would think Grok should be treated as a good enough source of information for people on DU.

[Beaverhausen]

3. .the lawyer for the Ramos family, Marc Prokosch, said Liam and his father had come to the U.S. in 2024 from Ecuador to s

On Thursday, the lawyer for the Ramos family, Marc Prokosch, said Liam and his father had come to the U.S. in 2024 from Ecuador to seek asylum.

Marc Prokosch: “Liam and his dad did enter the United States at a port of entry to seek asylum through the CBP One app at the Brownsville border crossing. So they did everything right when they came in. They used the app. They made an appointment. They came to the border and presented themselves to Customs and Border Patrol. They’ve shared all of their information with the government, and they were following the process. They were just trying to secure safety and persecution for their family from their home country. But ICE didn’t care about the fact that they had those pending claims, and then just arrested them.”

https://www.democracynow.org/2026/1/23/headlines/outrage_grows_over_ice_detaining_5_year_old_liam_ramos

[highplainsdem]

7. Thanks for posting information from a much more reliable source.

[WhiskeyGrinder]

4. quit normalizing grok

[highplainsdem]

6. See their reply 2.

[WhiskeyGrinder]

8. Truly sad.