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EarlG

(23,448 posts)
Sat Jan 24, 2026, 01:08 PM 2 hrs ago

The photo seems to disprove DHS's narrative

This is the man who was shot. This is a screengrab from a video that was taken by someone driving past in a car moments before the shooting. This was right as they were starting to take the guy down. You can see that he has a phone in his right hand and is (likely) filming.

I do not have the video available, although I have seen the video that this still comes from. This photo came from Reddit.



DHS said:

"At 9:05 AM CT, as DHS law enforcement officers were conducting a targeted operation in Minneapolis against an illegal alien wanted for violent assault, an individual approached US Border Patrol officers with a 9 mm semi-automatic handgun. The officers attempted to disarm the suspect but the armed suspect violently resisted."

https://abc7news.com/post/minneapolis-shooting-today-federal-agent-reportedly-involved-gov-tim-walz-says/18463609/

https://www.foxnews.com/us/border-patrol-involved-shooting-reported-minneapolis

DHS also said that he had no ID (which is not a crime). Meanwhile local officials report that the man had a legal permit to carry. So he may have been "with" a 9mm handgun, but the the photo above, taken moments before the altercation which led to the shooting, does not show the man brandishing a weapon.

Edited again to add: The video has now been posted and can be seen on Bluesky (DU link here):

https://democraticunderground.com/100220965013

This is another screengrab from the video. Watch the video and you can clearly see that the man had nothing in his left hand as officers started to shove him, prior to wrestling him to the ground. This was not about trying to disarm somebody who was threatening them.

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The photo seems to disprove DHS's narrative (Original Post) EarlG 2 hrs ago OP
The guy's armed with a camera phone. Kid Berwyn 2 hrs ago #1
The more they try to silence us, the more we speak up and stand up. n/t yellow dahlia 1 hr ago #16
Has his name been released? MagickMuffin 2 hrs ago #2
Camera as Deadly Weapon leftstreet 2 hrs ago #3
I know. He was just being a rigorous citizen, and now he is dead. yellow dahlia 1 hr ago #14
MPD Chief confirmed that he was a lawful gun owner with a permit to carry Prairie Gates 2 hrs ago #4
Yup. He was exercising his 2A rights. herding cats 1 hr ago #5
Exactly. yellow dahlia 1 hr ago #11
Good Guy RobinA 1 hr ago #22
We see no gun in either hand... Camera in right hand and left hand is empty (see bluesky video below) liberalla 39 min ago #34
DHS is claiming he walked up to agents with weapon drawn. Per MS NOW. Solly Mack 1 hr ago #6
Don't believe your lying eyes. yellow dahlia 1 hr ago #10
Damn eyes. Solly Mack 1 hr ago #13
Those fuckers at MSN censor every comment I make wolfie001 1 hr ago #25
It's a digital pocket camera. People have been using these so as not to risk their phones. SunSeeker 46 min ago #32
Oooo, thanks for the reminder, I think I have 2 of those lil oldies but goodies around here. Attilatheblond 39 min ago #35
Thanks! Either way, not "brandishing" a gun. Solly Mack 31 min ago #36
The benefit to using a phone is being able to upload to the cloud as you record EdmondDantes_ 27 min ago #38
Download the SD card files in your phone via an adaptor dongle, when you are safely at home or in your car. nt SunSeeker 22 min ago #41
Oh, man Lulu KC 1 hr ago #7
Ill fitting child sized ballistic vest... Hugin 1 hr ago #8
So it appears this guy was attacked and beaten for the crime of exercising his First Amendment rights. yellow dahlia 1 hr ago #9
Blocking the door to the Donut Shop? leftstreet 1 hr ago #18
He was on the other side of the street from the donut shop JHB 4 min ago #44
DHS is not to be trusted for one second. spanone 1 hr ago #12
Kick dalton99a 1 hr ago #15
I posted the video in an OP 10 minutes ago - see highplainsdem 1 hr ago #17
Here.- found another Bluesky post with it: highplainsdem 1 hr ago #19
The truth will come out. orangecrush 1 hr ago #20
Why are these f-ers permitted to wear the word POLICE on their vests Hope22 1 hr ago #21
Nazis wolfie001 1 hr ago #23
Do NOT assume that the victim was brandishing a weapon. ICE lies, Safe as Milk 1 hr ago #24
Asking my DU colleagues: AverageOldGuy 1 hr ago #26
Exact. Justice matters. 31 min ago #37
Bovino is fucking lying his ass off now on MSNOW. LuckyCharms 1 hr ago #27
Good God! James48 58 min ago #29
That wee little fuck needs to be shuttled... LuckyCharms 55 min ago #30
And now they'll get the ammo they need to declare all-out war on us?... buzzycrumbhunger 59 min ago #28
Peacefully watching and recording ICE is a death sentence IronLionZion 49 min ago #31
Trump and his new Gestapo were in danger because he was brandishing a phone... ashredux 43 min ago #33
... littlemissmartypants 23 min ago #39
These Individuals Voted In Favor Of Continuing To Fund These ICE Murderers MayReasonRule 23 min ago #40
There is more video of them pulling the gun out of the victims holster before the shot him Historic NY 11 min ago #42
Another video, apparently from the woman in the pink coat. The man was helping people, no gun in hand. SunSeeker 7 min ago #43

MagickMuffin

(18,108 posts)
2. Has his name been released?
Sat Jan 24, 2026, 01:11 PM
2 hrs ago


Murdering people is going to become the norm, because this maladministration wants us dead.




yellow dahlia

(4,955 posts)
14. I know. He was just being a rigorous citizen, and now he is dead.
Sat Jan 24, 2026, 01:32 PM
1 hr ago

I'm so sad and SO angry.

herding cats

(19,977 posts)
5. Yup. He was exercising his 2A rights.
Sat Jan 24, 2026, 01:19 PM
1 hr ago

I dearly hope the firearm enthusiasts take note of just how fucking fast those rights flew out the window here.

It appears ICE twisted his constitutional rights into a valid reason to assault and murder him.

liberalla

(10,875 posts)
34. We see no gun in either hand... Camera in right hand and left hand is empty (see bluesky video below)
Sat Jan 24, 2026, 02:36 PM
39 min ago

Need to find out if he was right or left handed.
He may have had a gun on him, but it wasn't visible (at least while he was standing up recording)

This is so so so fucked up!

Solly Mack

(96,522 posts)
6. DHS is claiming he walked up to agents with weapon drawn. Per MS NOW.
Sat Jan 24, 2026, 01:20 PM
1 hr ago

That looks like a phone to me, but my eyes could be lying to me.

yellow dahlia

(4,955 posts)
10. Don't believe your lying eyes.
Sat Jan 24, 2026, 01:30 PM
1 hr ago

Now people are beaten and executed for filming the out of control jackboots.

wolfie001

(7,245 posts)
25. Those fuckers at MSN censor every comment I make
Sat Jan 24, 2026, 02:10 PM
1 hr ago

Yet every horse-with-wings comment by a racist redneck is posted. FUCK MSN!!!

SunSeeker

(57,732 posts)
32. It's a digital pocket camera. People have been using these so as not to risk their phones.
Sat Jan 24, 2026, 02:29 PM
46 min ago

Looks like a $30 PopSnap pocket camera by Vivitar from Target or Walmart.

I bought a cheap $30 Vivitar PopSnap pocket camera for my son for travel, and found it can record really good video, so long as you insert a 32GB or 64GB SD card in it so it has the memory to record the video(s). Very handy for recording ICE. And it is super compact, it will easily fit in a shirt pocket, under a hat, etc. I am sure there are similar cameras on Amazon as well.

That way, you don't risk your phone. My whole world is on my phone. No way would I want Trump’s Nazis taking my phone. They can have my PopSnap.

Attilatheblond

(8,399 posts)
35. Oooo, thanks for the reminder, I think I have 2 of those lil oldies but goodies around here.
Sat Jan 24, 2026, 02:36 PM
39 min ago

Might have to dig them outta my old tech drawer, charge 'em up and check 'em out for serviceability.

EdmondDantes_

(1,441 posts)
38. The benefit to using a phone is being able to upload to the cloud as you record
Sat Jan 24, 2026, 02:48 PM
27 min ago

The strict camera devices don't let you do that without connecting to another device.

SunSeeker

(57,732 posts)
41. Download the SD card files in your phone via an adaptor dongle, when you are safely at home or in your car. nt
Sat Jan 24, 2026, 02:53 PM
22 min ago

Hugin

(37,550 posts)
8. Ill fitting child sized ballistic vest...
Sat Jan 24, 2026, 01:24 PM
1 hr ago

I can’t quite make out what the cosplay toy says below “POLICE”. The alt-klan member would be better off without it. Any shot would bounce around in there like a golf ball in a hurricane.

yellow dahlia

(4,955 posts)
9. So it appears this guy was attacked and beaten for the crime of exercising his First Amendment rights.
Sat Jan 24, 2026, 01:27 PM
1 hr ago

And perhaps he was executed for exercising his Second Amendment right to carry a gun.

JHB

(38,004 posts)
44. He was on the other side of the street from the donut shop
Sat Jan 24, 2026, 03:12 PM
4 min ago

But in a world where cameras are counted as guns, I guess you can "block" an entrance from 10 yards away.

highplainsdem

(60,464 posts)
17. I posted the video in an OP 10 minutes ago - see
Sat Jan 24, 2026, 01:37 PM
1 hr ago
https://democraticunderground.com/100220965013

- but you have to click on the part of the video saying it can't appear off Bluesky to reach the Bluesky post with the video.

highplainsdem

(60,464 posts)
19. Here.- found another Bluesky post with it:
Sat Jan 24, 2026, 01:46 PM
1 hr ago

Video before it happens is showing this guy they shot in the head in Minneapolis was just standing there videoing them before and they got out to push him back and then murder him.

Democratic Women of South Orange County (@dwsoc.bsky.social) 2026-01-24T17:24:14.392Z

Hope22

(4,504 posts)
21. Why are these f-ers permitted to wear the word POLICE on their vests
Sat Jan 24, 2026, 01:49 PM
1 hr ago

And if we tried that?

Safe as Milk

(212 posts)
24. Do NOT assume that the victim was brandishing a weapon. ICE lies,
Sat Jan 24, 2026, 02:07 PM
1 hr ago

just like Diddling Donny.

If there was a weapon "found" on his person, find the registration data, confirm ownership. Even so, gun ownership does NOT demand that the owner be shot and killed.

AverageOldGuy

(3,439 posts)
26. Asking my DU colleagues:
Sat Jan 24, 2026, 02:11 PM
1 hr ago

From this moment on, when referring to the organization formerly known as "ICE," refer to them only as "Gestapo." No more "ICE." And if you wish to refer to Stephen Miller as "Hermann Göring" . . .

Not familiar with the Gestapo, here is the Wikipedia article (footnotes and references are in the Wikipedia article).


The Geheime Staatspolizei ([ɡəˈhaɪmə ˈʃtaːtspoliˌtsaɪ] ⓘ, lit. 'Secret State Police', abbreviated Gestapo [ɡəˈstaːpo] ⓘ ,[3] was the official secret police of Nazi Germany and in German-occupied Europe.

The force was created by Hermann Göring in 1933 by combining the various political police agencies of Prussia into one organisation. On 20 April 1934, oversight of the Gestapo passed to the head of the Schutzstaffel (SS), Heinrich Himmler, who was also appointed Chief of German Police by Hitler in 1936. Instead of being exclusively a Prussian state agency, the Gestapo became a national one as a sub-office of the Sicherheitspolizei (SiPo; Security Police). From 27 September 1939, it was administered by the Reich Security Main Office (RSHA). It became known as Amt (Dept) 4 of the RSHA and was considered a sister organisation to the Sicherheitsdienst (SD; Security Service).

The Gestapo committed widespread atrocities during its existence. The power of the Gestapo was used to focus upon political opponents, ideological dissenters (clergy and religious organisations), career criminals, the Sinti and Roma population, handicapped persons, homosexuals, and, above all, the Jews.[4] Those arrested by the Gestapo were often held without judicial process, and political prisoners throughout Germany—and from 1941, throughout the occupied territories under the Night and Fog Decree (German: Nacht und Nebel)—simply disappeared while in Gestapo custody.[5] Contrary to popular perception, the Gestapo was actually a relatively small organization with limited surveillance capability; still it proved extremely effective due to the willingness of ordinary Germans to report on fellow citizens. During World War II, the Gestapo played a key role in the Holocaust. After the war ended, the Gestapo was declared a criminal organisation by the International Military Tribunal (IMT) at the Nuremberg trials, and several top Gestapo members were sentenced to death.[6]

Justice matters.

(9,501 posts)
37. Exact.
Sat Jan 24, 2026, 02:45 PM
31 min ago

But, but, but... "Nazis, Nazis, Nazis... the "Nazi card" when they use "Nazi methods" in plain sights.

Living in Canada, Cuba, Panama, Columbia and Greenland in 2026 Feels like living in Poland in early 1939.

Living in the US Feels like living in Germany in 1933.



James48

(5,113 posts)
29. Good God!
Sat Jan 24, 2026, 02:17 PM
58 min ago

Bovino needs to be fired.

Noem needs to be fired.

Stephen Miller needs to get fired.

Donald Trump needs to be fired.

LuckyCharms

(22,084 posts)
30. That wee little fuck needs to be shuttled...
Sat Jan 24, 2026, 02:21 PM
55 min ago

right to fucking jail.

So goddamn infuriating.

IronLionZion

(50,905 posts)
31. Peacefully watching and recording ICE is a death sentence
Sat Jan 24, 2026, 02:27 PM
49 min ago

they don't want their murders recorded. Cruelty is the point. They want to discourage protestors.

ICE-holes are the violence.

ashredux

(2,881 posts)
33. Trump and his new Gestapo were in danger because he was brandishing a phone...
Sat Jan 24, 2026, 02:32 PM
43 min ago

This is most likely what happened….They wrestled him to a ground, one of the yahoo’s yelled “gun” and then they shot him… I bet a lot of money that’s how it was.

These guys are not trained, they’re just a bunch of assholes who used to be in prison because they storm the capital

SunSeeker

(57,732 posts)
43. Another video, apparently from the woman in the pink coat. The man was helping people, no gun in hand.
Sat Jan 24, 2026, 03:09 PM
7 min ago


When ICE pushed another protestor wearing a red backpack to the ground, he appeared to try to help her up as ICE pepper sprayed him. ICE proceeded to beat on him and then shot him. The woman filming is sobbing. Horrific.

Video is on reddit, and being played on MSNBC now:
https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/1qluz6q/another_angle_of_the_minneapolis_shooting_taken/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb3x&utm_name=mweb3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button
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