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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWhat Will the Democratic Party Establishment Do in the Aftermath of Another I.C.E. Murder?
Clearly we need a strong response from our leadership. Repeated calls to be calm in the face of a second gestapo murder have already been issued by the Minneapolis Police and other authorities, so the phase one response has been activated. Expected phase two responses of tots and pears are likely forthcoming soon. One can but wonder what response will come from the Democratic Party leadership. Will Democratic Party leaders maximize this to electoral advantage by:
1. writing a strongly-worded letter?
2. holding hearings where members can demonstrate their outrage through grandstanding?
3. move to enact a bipartisan non-binding resolution calling for calm?
4. call for increases to the Homeland Security budget to fund sensitivity training for I.C.E. officers?
5. locking the office door and hiding under their desks?
Bipartisan this, Chuck and Hakeem.
Meanwhile, I wonder how the behavior of their heroic I.C.E. officers is playing in red AmeriKKKa. Id tune in to fascist media, but I just ate.
RockRaven
(18,839 posts)which won't even be broadcast on the news while the local elected Dems ... *checks notes*... preside over local LEOs who are attacking protesters too?
Ah, swell...
Autumn
(48,822 posts)then business as usual.
Ars Longa
(477 posts)committee that would issue a report on ICE in about 9 or 10 months. Or perhaps
even longer!!
Autumn
(48,822 posts)I'm going with an almost strongly worded, 30 words or less, semi condemnation will be the winner.
choie
(6,734 posts)emulatorloo
(46,142 posts)Especially with midterms coming up.
Because apparently DU wants to depress voter turnout by pounding home the bullshit message that Democrats must be PUNISHED
As That will help Republicans win and keep Republicans in power.
/s
choie
(6,734 posts)after a horror they might gain some voters? You know, like show some leadership? Stop with the usual canard of "you're blaming Democrats".
emulatorloo
(46,142 posts)And DU too busy falsely blaming Democrats for what Republicans do to pay attention
choie
(6,734 posts)Please be sure to post a press conference on this execution. I'd love to see it.
emulatorloo
(46,142 posts)Im pissed off too but Im pissed at ICE and Trump.
Bettie
(19,368 posts)Or are you speaking of someone else?
Democratic Governors are standing up for their states.
choie
(6,734 posts)Congressional reps. Governor Walz is a role model, and other dems should take note.
lees1975
(6,937 posts)and not just from protesters in the streets. I'd like to see some Democrats in the house and senate protesting in the streets. That would be a step-up in the level of passion on this subject.
JI7
(93,301 posts)kacekwl
(8,929 posts)N/t
electric_blue68
(26,187 posts)Possibly a few others.
Video proved by highplainsdem.
orangecrush
(28,909 posts)Fresh out of patience today.
emulatorloo
(46,142 posts)DJ Synikus Makisimus
(1,231 posts)Behold the glorious result.
emulatorloo
(46,142 posts)I blame Trump and ICE for this. You blame Hakeem. Well ok!
choie
(6,734 posts)There's even a think tank called Third Way. Nice try though.
Arazi
(8,757 posts)So yeah, he will be blamed 🤬
JI7
(93,301 posts)choie
(6,734 posts)diddly.
mcar
(45,745 posts)Bringing back the golden oldies.
Autumn
(48,822 posts)to lead, or at least be like Bill Clinton and let us know he shared our pain, when we watch a federal agency murder people on the street what the fuck are we supposed to do? JFC
iemanja
(57,517 posts)Last edited Sat Jan 24, 2026, 05:05 PM - Edit history (1)
24 Republicans voted against the bill. It could have been defeated if those Democrats had voted no.
BlueKota
(5,085 posts)The ones who voted for continuing to fund Ice just so they can be appear to be supporting law enforcement? I support law enforcement officers too, but only the ones who actually follow the law themselves. My half brother was a sherrif's deputy.
Those seven along with tsf and the majority of the Republicans in Congess supported Ice. The agency that is breaking the law . They share responsibility for any further loss of innocent lives at the hands of it's agents.
Sorry that's how I feel, and I won't apologize for it. I applaud the Democrats who voted NO and continue to speak out.
betsuni
(28,817 posts)Demonizing Democrats so they're seen as an evil non-human enemy Establishment.
choie
(6,734 posts)Oh my god, the hyperbole. Just because we expect our representatives to represent us.
Bettie
(19,368 posts)people being murdered in the streets is a bridge to far for some people.
I don't get it. But given some of the posters who are in that camp, I am unsurprised.
electric_blue68
(26,187 posts)KPN
(17,172 posts)Seems to me sometimes here that some people take any criticism as blaming -- another gross misrepresentation.
synni
(685 posts)Do your duty. Stop making excuses for the enablers who keep ignoring people like AOC. If we don't pressure people like Schumer, who will?
durablend
(8,927 posts)So #s 1 & 4 on your list
betsuni
(28,817 posts)dalton99a
(92,532 posts)when nobody is watching
SamuelTheThird
(678 posts)They don't want to piss off wealthy donors, and they might have concerns for their own personal safety.
durablend
(8,927 posts)Though they'll be tarred with that anyway.
JI7
(93,301 posts)of crimes by non whites.
People here mostly want democrats to react to things.
But what is important is getting out their side which needs to include tough on crime policies and same with immigration.
choie
(6,734 posts)and afraid to fight for justice because we're scared of being tarred as weak on crime. JesusChrist this country is never going to get back to some semblance of a healthy democracy with thinking like that.
JI7
(93,301 posts)Letting Republicans control the narrative isn't going to help in any way.
electric_blue68
(26,187 posts)...either "soft on crime", or not supporting law enforcement.
JI7
(93,301 posts)People on this site are clueless about what is out there and stuck in the 90s where they think people care about officials giving press conferences.
Just look at Tim Walz not running for reelection. Is he what you consider the democratic party establishment ?
betsuni
(28,817 posts)Everybody got so sick of him nobody paid attention.
I often wonder just who the hell is this diabolical establishment conspiracy theory.
Eddie Haskell 60
(48 posts)It is the ONLY power Dems have and the DHS bill goes to the Senate this week. If they don't filibuster against this spending for ICE under DHS, they're complicit in the slaughter against citizens.
kimbutgar
(26,949 posts)Who are so used to minorities getting killed by police and ICE. It must be shocking to those white supremacists they arent safe either !
Easterncedar
(5,662 posts)Murders, assaults, kidnappings. They aren't deporting "the worst of the worst": they have recruited an army of the worst violent criminals and unleashed them to rampage through our cities and attack us.
Tim S
(65 posts)ya know...
Torchlight
(6,388 posts)with no answers yet.
maxrandb
(17,212 posts)This isn't the Democratic Party's Establishments fault!
It isn't Chuck Schumer's fault, or Hakeem Jeffries fault.
It isn't Merrick Garland's, or Jack Smith's fault.
It isn't a boat accident, or a propeller...it isn't Jack the Rippers fault.
The American people had an opportunity to put a stop to this Nazi shit back in November. The American people fucking failed.
This is our fucking fault and it's our God Damned responsibility to fix it.
You want to blame someone? Start with your neighbors, "friends" family members, coworkers and fellow parishioners that voted for this shit.
It's not up to the Democratic Party to shut this fucked-up country down...it's up to us!!!!
I wonder how many fucking "outraged" people are still buying shit and using shit from companies that fund the fucking fascists?
Are we at a point where a majority of people are ready and willing to sacrifice, because they realize that Democracy is more precious then their "comfort"?
Call me when we get to that point.
mcar
(45,745 posts)betsuni
(28,817 posts)Grim Chieftain
(1,366 posts)Waiting for a strongly worded written response.
Seriously, I am looking forward to responses from Jamie Raskin, Eric Swalwell, Jasmine Crockett, AOC, and other fierce Democrats.
We need you now more than ever.
mcar
(45,745 posts)Is it even possible here for us to come to grips with the murder of another citizen without some here using it as an excuse to proactively bash Democrats?
demmiblue
(39,352 posts)ICE out of Minnesota NOW.
— Chuck Schumer (@schumer.senate.gov) 2026-01-24T18:39:04.453Z
Meh
No press release as of right now: https://www.schumer.senate.gov/newsroom/press-releases
Nothing from Jeffries (on Bluesky not going to check the Nazi bar). Also, no press release as of right now: https://jeffries.house.gov/category/press-release/
* There may be other commentary from them (cable news, Facebook, Insta, etc.), but I have not seen it.
mr715
(3,037 posts)And frankly more than I expected.
Bettie
(19,368 posts)and a good start.
Surprising. I did not expect him to even acknowledge the murder.
C_U_L8R
(49,033 posts)Strategery. They can do both things if they really wanted.
JustAnotherGen
(37,701 posts)Could vote yes on the 30th. Fetterman isn't worth the time.
I'd call them read exactly what you wrote. Its bang on.
I finished with - do you want to be remembered as Neville Chamberlain or Harriet Tubman? Its your call.
W_HAMILTON
(10,171 posts)Democrats -- both those in and not in """the Establishment""" (tm) -- are in the minority and there is little to nothing they can do, especially when faced with a fascist administration that has the powers of enforcement and routinely refuses to follow the law to begin with.
These are all things that we warned people about before the election and yet they didn't listen. Did they think that Democrats in the minority could wave a magic wand and save them from all these terrible things going on?
mahatmakanejeeves
(68,535 posts)gay texan
(3,176 posts)regnaD kciN
(27,507 posts)BlueTsunami2018
(4,903 posts)Theres no way around that fact. Theyre not going to do anything. They just voted to fund them the other day. I dont give a fuck if it was just seven of them, it should have been none of them.
Im tired of this good cop/bad cop we all support the accumulation of capital charade.
This is a fascist country. It always has been. It always will be unless people get together and do something about it because this system isnt going to save us.
Srkdqltr
(9,448 posts)Any who are able. There are airplanes everywhere. Just take warm coats and go.