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DJ Synikus Makisimus

(1,231 posts)
Sat Jan 24, 2026, 03:04 PM 5 hrs ago

What Will the Democratic Party Establishment Do in the Aftermath of Another I.C.E. Murder?

Clearly we need a “strong response” from our leadership. Repeated calls to be “calm” in the face of a second gestapo murder have already been issued by the Minneapolis Police and other authorities, so the phase one response has been activated. Expected phase two responses of tots and pears are likely forthcoming soon. One can but wonder what response will come from the Democratic Party leadership. Will Democratic Party leaders maximize this to electoral advantage by:

1. writing a strongly-worded letter?
2. holding hearings where members can demonstrate their outrage through grandstanding?
3. move to enact a bipartisan non-binding resolution calling for calm?
4. call for increases to the Homeland Security budget to fund “sensitivity training” for I.C.E. officers?
5. locking the office door and hiding under their desks?

Bipartisan this, Chuck and Hakeem.

Meanwhile, I wonder how the behavior of their “heroic” I.C.E. officers is playing in red AmeriKKKa. I’d tune in to fascist media, but I just ate.

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What Will the Democratic Party Establishment Do in the Aftermath of Another I.C.E. Murder? (Original Post) DJ Synikus Makisimus 5 hrs ago OP
Have two of the least charismatic, most out of touch people on earth read prepared statements RockRaven 5 hrs ago #1
Your guess is good as mine. Maybe a short statement about how terrible it was to murder an unarmed man, Autumn 5 hrs ago #2
They will start a "Select Committee" to determine if we should empanel a review Ars Longa 4 hrs ago #35
I think a "Select Committee" to issue a report on ICE in about 9 or 10 months would be too much work. Autumn 3 hrs ago #48
Not anything that will matter a damn. choie 5 hrs ago #3
Yes, it is very important that DU blame Democrats for what Republicans do /s emulatorloo 4 hrs ago #4
Did you ever think that if the Democrats actually opened their mouths choie 4 hrs ago #8
They open their mouths all the time. Media too busy propping up Trump to report on Democrats. emulatorloo 4 hrs ago #10
That's BS choie 4 hrs ago #13
No it's not bullshit. And Walz is a Democrat and he called in the National Guard. emulatorloo 4 hrs ago #17
Do you mean Governor Walz? Bettie 4 hrs ago #18
I'm clearly talking about choie 3 hrs ago #37
I''d be really excited to see Democratic outrage coming from house or senate members lees1975 4 hrs ago #30
If people are truly upset then they are already supporting Democrats JI7 4 hrs ago #23
Repeat a thousand times. kacekwl 3 hrs ago #47
Rep. Seth Moulton (D-Mass) called for ?curent ICE head to be ptosecuted. electric_blue68 8 min ago #66
Bye orangecrush 4 hrs ago #9
Hi! emulatorloo 4 hrs ago #11
"Third Way" strategy has been to avoid taking a position on anything. DJ Synikus Makisimus 4 hrs ago #12
Third Way died in the '90s. But apparently false bothsiderism is alive and well emulatorloo 4 hrs ago #19
The hell it did. choie 3 hrs ago #39
Jeffries REFUSED to whip the vote against funding these monsters Arazi 3 hrs ago #49
Jasmine Crockett doesn't do third way and she isn't getting support in Texas JI7 4 hrs ago #25
And that means... choie 4 hrs ago #28
Ooh Third Way mcar 3 hrs ago #44
What a load of bullshit. Nobody is blaming Democrats for anything. If we can't count on our leaders Autumn 4 hrs ago #14
Seven of them just voted to fund the terrorist organization that killed the man. iemanja 4 hrs ago #15
Wonder if those seven are still proud of their bipartisanship? BlueKota 2 hrs ago #58
The lust to blame, hate, and punish is palpable. betsuni 4 hrs ago #20
"Demonizing Democrats so they're seen as an evil non-human enemy" choie 4 hrs ago #31
Apparently, expecting them to come out against Bettie 1 hr ago #62
Respectfully, I think you are being a bit over the top on how some DU'rs are criticizing some Dems. electric_blue68 4 min ago #67
The OP did not blame Democrats for what Republicans do. Just saying ... KPN 3 hrs ago #42
It is our duty as citizens to hold our elected officials' feet to the fire synni 3 hrs ago #46
Sternly worded letter and vote for more funding, most likely durablend 4 hrs ago #5
Write a strongly worded letter about the Harris/Walz administration's ICE policy, or give a press conference. betsuni 4 hrs ago #6
Publish a well-written letter for the round file, tweet something that nobody reads, make a speech to an empty chamber dalton99a 4 hrs ago #7
Nothing I fear SamuelTheThird 4 hrs ago #16
Don't wanna look "Soft on crime" either durablend 4 hrs ago #22
The perception of soft on crime is a problem. The right wing media's is full of stories JI7 4 hrs ago #26
Right, so let's be cowards choie 3 hrs ago #41
Being tough on crime is part of fighting fort justice JI7 1 hr ago #60
That's what I read as to why those Dems did vote that way electric_blue68 15 min ago #65
Right Wing media is full of stories of crimes by non white people JI7 4 hrs ago #21
Newt Gingrich had press conferences practically every day during the '90s, I well remember. betsuni 4 hrs ago #32
Force Shutdown this week Eddie Haskell 60 4 hrs ago #24
Both innocent white people kimbutgar 4 hrs ago #27
The whole point was supposed to be protecting us from murderers Easterncedar 4 hrs ago #29
Call for UN Peacekeeping forces Tim S 4 hrs ago #33
... leftstreet 3 hrs ago #36
I ask myself, 'what will I do in the aftermath...?' Torchlight 4 hrs ago #34
Fuck this noise! Just fuck it! maxrandb 3 hrs ago #38
This +1000! mcar 3 hrs ago #45
THANK YOU! betsuni 3 hrs ago #51
Hmmm Grim Chieftain 3 hrs ago #40
Can we stop with the "Dems suck" narrative for one day? mcar 3 hrs ago #43
Here is the leadership response: demmiblue 3 hrs ago #50
This is better than nothing. mr715 2 hrs ago #57
That is more than I expected Bettie 1 hr ago #63
Holding their powder for the midterms C_U_L8R 2 hrs ago #52
I've called the six i think JustAnotherGen 2 hrs ago #53
What exactly is it that you think those not in """the Establishment""" (tm) are doing to distinguish one from the other? W_HAMILTON 2 hrs ago #54
Expect a VERY sternly worded letter. NT mahatmakanejeeves 2 hrs ago #55
1. N/t gay texan 2 hrs ago #56
Nothing, of course... regnaD kciN 2 hrs ago #59
They support ICE. BlueTsunami2018 1 hr ago #61
Every democratic lawmaker in house senate and governor should be in Minnesota tomorrow. Srkdqltr 1 hr ago #64

RockRaven

(18,839 posts)
1. Have two of the least charismatic, most out of touch people on earth read prepared statements
Sat Jan 24, 2026, 03:11 PM
5 hrs ago

which won't even be broadcast on the news while the local elected Dems ... *checks notes*... preside over local LEOs who are attacking protesters too?

Ah, swell...

Autumn

(48,822 posts)
2. Your guess is good as mine. Maybe a short statement about how terrible it was to murder an unarmed man,
Sat Jan 24, 2026, 03:17 PM
5 hrs ago

then business as usual.

Ars Longa

(477 posts)
35. They will start a "Select Committee" to determine if we should empanel a review
Sat Jan 24, 2026, 04:20 PM
4 hrs ago

committee that would issue a report on ICE in about 9 or 10 months. Or perhaps
even longer!!

Autumn

(48,822 posts)
48. I think a "Select Committee" to issue a report on ICE in about 9 or 10 months would be too much work.
Sat Jan 24, 2026, 05:08 PM
3 hrs ago

I'm going with an almost strongly worded, 30 words or less, semi condemnation will be the winner.

emulatorloo

(46,142 posts)
4. Yes, it is very important that DU blame Democrats for what Republicans do /s
Sat Jan 24, 2026, 03:38 PM
4 hrs ago

Especially with midterms coming up.

Because apparently DU wants to depress voter turnout by pounding home the bullshit message that Democrats must be PUNISHED

As That will help Republicans win and keep Republicans in power.

/s


choie

(6,734 posts)
8. Did you ever think that if the Democrats actually opened their mouths
Sat Jan 24, 2026, 03:43 PM
4 hrs ago

after a horror they might gain some voters? You know, like show some leadership? Stop with the usual canard of "you're blaming Democrats".

emulatorloo

(46,142 posts)
10. They open their mouths all the time. Media too busy propping up Trump to report on Democrats.
Sat Jan 24, 2026, 03:45 PM
4 hrs ago

And DU too busy falsely blaming Democrats for what Republicans do to pay attention

choie

(6,734 posts)
13. That's BS
Sat Jan 24, 2026, 03:48 PM
4 hrs ago

Please be sure to post a press conference on this execution. I'd love to see it.

emulatorloo

(46,142 posts)
17. No it's not bullshit. And Walz is a Democrat and he called in the National Guard.
Sat Jan 24, 2026, 03:50 PM
4 hrs ago

I’m pissed off too but I’m pissed at ICE and Trump.

Bettie

(19,368 posts)
18. Do you mean Governor Walz?
Sat Jan 24, 2026, 03:54 PM
4 hrs ago

Or are you speaking of someone else?

Democratic Governors are standing up for their states.

choie

(6,734 posts)
37. I'm clearly talking about
Sat Jan 24, 2026, 04:30 PM
3 hrs ago

Congressional reps. Governor Walz is a role model, and other dems should take note.

lees1975

(6,937 posts)
30. I''d be really excited to see Democratic outrage coming from house or senate members
Sat Jan 24, 2026, 04:11 PM
4 hrs ago

and not just from protesters in the streets. I'd like to see some Democrats in the house and senate protesting in the streets. That would be a step-up in the level of passion on this subject.

electric_blue68

(26,187 posts)
66. Rep. Seth Moulton (D-Mass) called for ?curent ICE head to be ptosecuted.
Sat Jan 24, 2026, 08:12 PM
8 min ago

Possibly a few others.
Video proved by highplainsdem.

DJ Synikus Makisimus

(1,231 posts)
12. "Third Way" strategy has been to avoid taking a position on anything.
Sat Jan 24, 2026, 03:48 PM
4 hrs ago

Behold the glorious result.

emulatorloo

(46,142 posts)
19. Third Way died in the '90s. But apparently false bothsiderism is alive and well
Sat Jan 24, 2026, 03:55 PM
4 hrs ago

I blame Trump and ICE for this. You blame Hakeem. Well ok!


Arazi

(8,757 posts)
49. Jeffries REFUSED to whip the vote against funding these monsters
Sat Jan 24, 2026, 05:11 PM
3 hrs ago

So yeah, he will be blamed 🤬

Autumn

(48,822 posts)
14. What a load of bullshit. Nobody is blaming Democrats for anything. If we can't count on our leaders
Sat Jan 24, 2026, 03:48 PM
4 hrs ago

to lead, or at least be like Bill Clinton and let us know he shared our pain, when we watch a federal agency murder people on the street what the fuck are we supposed to do? JFC

iemanja

(57,517 posts)
15. Seven of them just voted to fund the terrorist organization that killed the man.
Sat Jan 24, 2026, 03:49 PM
4 hrs ago

Last edited Sat Jan 24, 2026, 05:05 PM - Edit history (1)

24 Republicans voted against the bill. It could have been defeated if those Democrats had voted no.

BlueKota

(5,085 posts)
58. Wonder if those seven are still proud of their bipartisanship?
Sat Jan 24, 2026, 05:39 PM
2 hrs ago

The ones who voted for continuing to fund Ice just so they can be appear to be supporting law enforcement? I support law enforcement officers too, but only the ones who actually follow the law themselves. My half brother was a sherrif's deputy.

Those seven along with tsf and the majority of the Republicans in Congess supported Ice. The agency that is breaking the law . They share responsibility for any further loss of innocent lives at the hands of it's agents.

Sorry that's how I feel, and I won't apologize for it. I applaud the Democrats who voted NO and continue to speak out.

betsuni

(28,817 posts)
20. The lust to blame, hate, and punish is palpable.
Sat Jan 24, 2026, 03:57 PM
4 hrs ago

Demonizing Democrats so they're seen as an evil non-human enemy Establishment.

choie

(6,734 posts)
31. "Demonizing Democrats so they're seen as an evil non-human enemy"
Sat Jan 24, 2026, 04:12 PM
4 hrs ago

Oh my god, the hyperbole. Just because we expect our representatives to represent us.

Bettie

(19,368 posts)
62. Apparently, expecting them to come out against
Sat Jan 24, 2026, 06:50 PM
1 hr ago

people being murdered in the streets is a bridge to far for some people.

I don't get it. But given some of the posters who are in that camp, I am unsurprised.

electric_blue68

(26,187 posts)
67. Respectfully, I think you are being a bit over the top on how some DU'rs are criticizing some Dems.
Sat Jan 24, 2026, 08:17 PM
4 min ago

KPN

(17,172 posts)
42. The OP did not blame Democrats for what Republicans do. Just saying ...
Sat Jan 24, 2026, 04:38 PM
3 hrs ago

Seems to me sometimes here that some people take any criticism as blaming -- another gross misrepresentation.

synni

(685 posts)
46. It is our duty as citizens to hold our elected officials' feet to the fire
Sat Jan 24, 2026, 04:53 PM
3 hrs ago

Do your duty. Stop making excuses for the enablers who keep ignoring people like AOC. If we don't pressure people like Schumer, who will?

betsuni

(28,817 posts)
6. Write a strongly worded letter about the Harris/Walz administration's ICE policy, or give a press conference.
Sat Jan 24, 2026, 03:41 PM
4 hrs ago

dalton99a

(92,532 posts)
7. Publish a well-written letter for the round file, tweet something that nobody reads, make a speech to an empty chamber
Sat Jan 24, 2026, 03:41 PM
4 hrs ago


when nobody is watching



SamuelTheThird

(678 posts)
16. Nothing I fear
Sat Jan 24, 2026, 03:50 PM
4 hrs ago

They don't want to piss off wealthy donors, and they might have concerns for their own personal safety.

JI7

(93,301 posts)
26. The perception of soft on crime is a problem. The right wing media's is full of stories
Sat Jan 24, 2026, 04:07 PM
4 hrs ago

of crimes by non whites.

People here mostly want democrats to react to things.

But what is important is getting out their side which needs to include tough on crime policies and same with immigration.

choie

(6,734 posts)
41. Right, so let's be cowards
Sat Jan 24, 2026, 04:35 PM
3 hrs ago

and afraid to fight for justice because we're scared of being tarred as weak on crime. JesusChrist this country is never going to get back to some semblance of a healthy democracy with thinking like that.

JI7

(93,301 posts)
60. Being tough on crime is part of fighting fort justice
Sat Jan 24, 2026, 06:39 PM
1 hr ago

Letting Republicans control the narrative isn't going to help in any way.

electric_blue68

(26,187 posts)
65. That's what I read as to why those Dems did vote that way
Sat Jan 24, 2026, 08:05 PM
15 min ago

...either "soft on crime", or not supporting law enforcement.

JI7

(93,301 posts)
21. Right Wing media is full of stories of crimes by non white people
Sat Jan 24, 2026, 03:59 PM
4 hrs ago

People on this site are clueless about what is out there and stuck in the 90s where they think people care about officials giving press conferences.

Just look at Tim Walz not running for reelection. Is he what you consider the democratic party establishment ?

betsuni

(28,817 posts)
32. Newt Gingrich had press conferences practically every day during the '90s, I well remember.
Sat Jan 24, 2026, 04:13 PM
4 hrs ago

Everybody got so sick of him nobody paid attention.

I often wonder just who the hell is this diabolical establishment conspiracy theory.

Eddie Haskell 60

(48 posts)
24. Force Shutdown this week
Sat Jan 24, 2026, 04:04 PM
4 hrs ago

It is the ONLY power Dems have and the DHS bill goes to the Senate this week. If they don't filibuster against this spending for ICE under DHS, they're complicit in the slaughter against citizens.

kimbutgar

(26,949 posts)
27. Both innocent white people
Sat Jan 24, 2026, 04:09 PM
4 hrs ago

Who are so used to minorities getting killed by police and ICE. It must be shocking to those white supremacists they aren’t safe either !

Easterncedar

(5,662 posts)
29. The whole point was supposed to be protecting us from murderers
Sat Jan 24, 2026, 04:10 PM
4 hrs ago

Murders, assaults, kidnappings. They aren't deporting "the worst of the worst": they have recruited an army of the worst violent criminals and unleashed them to rampage through our cities and attack us.

maxrandb

(17,212 posts)
38. Fuck this noise! Just fuck it!
Sat Jan 24, 2026, 04:31 PM
3 hrs ago

This isn't the Democratic Party's Establishments fault!

It isn't Chuck Schumer's fault, or Hakeem Jeffries fault.

It isn't Merrick Garland's, or Jack Smith's fault.

It isn't a boat accident, or a propeller...it isn't Jack the Rippers fault.

The American people had an opportunity to put a stop to this Nazi shit back in November. The American people fucking failed.

This is our fucking fault and it's our God Damned responsibility to fix it.

You want to blame someone? Start with your neighbors, "friends" family members, coworkers and fellow parishioners that voted for this shit.

It's not up to the Democratic Party to shut this fucked-up country down...it's up to us!!!!

I wonder how many fucking "outraged" people are still buying shit and using shit from companies that fund the fucking fascists?

Are we at a point where a majority of people are ready and willing to sacrifice, because they realize that Democracy is more precious then their "comfort"?

Call me when we get to that point.

Grim Chieftain

(1,366 posts)
40. Hmmm
Sat Jan 24, 2026, 04:34 PM
3 hrs ago

Waiting for a strongly worded written response.



Seriously, I am looking forward to responses from Jamie Raskin, Eric Swalwell, Jasmine Crockett, AOC, and other fierce Democrats.
We need you now more than ever.

mcar

(45,745 posts)
43. Can we stop with the "Dems suck" narrative for one day?
Sat Jan 24, 2026, 04:47 PM
3 hrs ago

Is it even possible here for us to come to grips with the murder of another citizen without some here using it as an excuse to proactively bash Democrats?

demmiblue

(39,352 posts)
50. Here is the leadership response:
Sat Jan 24, 2026, 05:19 PM
3 hrs ago

ICE out of Minnesota NOW.

Chuck Schumer (@schumer.senate.gov) 2026-01-24T18:39:04.453Z

Meh

No press release as of right now: https://www.schumer.senate.gov/newsroom/press-releases


Nothing from Jeffries (on Bluesky… not going to check the Nazi bar). Also, no press release as of right now: https://jeffries.house.gov/category/press-release/


* There may be other commentary from them (cable news, Facebook, Insta, etc.), but I have not seen it.

Bettie

(19,368 posts)
63. That is more than I expected
Sat Jan 24, 2026, 06:52 PM
1 hr ago

and a good start.

Surprising. I did not expect him to even acknowledge the murder.

C_U_L8R

(49,033 posts)
52. Holding their powder for the midterms
Sat Jan 24, 2026, 05:22 PM
2 hrs ago

Strategery. They can do both things if they really wanted.

JustAnotherGen

(37,701 posts)
53. I've called the six i think
Sat Jan 24, 2026, 05:28 PM
2 hrs ago

Could vote yes on the 30th. Fetterman isn't worth the time.

I'd call them read exactly what you wrote. Its bang on.

I finished with - do you want to be remembered as Neville Chamberlain or Harriet Tubman? Its your call.

W_HAMILTON

(10,171 posts)
54. What exactly is it that you think those not in """the Establishment""" (tm) are doing to distinguish one from the other?
Sat Jan 24, 2026, 05:29 PM
2 hrs ago

Democrats -- both those in and not in """the Establishment""" (tm) -- are in the minority and there is little to nothing they can do, especially when faced with a fascist administration that has the powers of enforcement and routinely refuses to follow the law to begin with.

These are all things that we warned people about before the election and yet they didn't listen. Did they think that Democrats in the minority could wave a magic wand and save them from all these terrible things going on?

BlueTsunami2018

(4,903 posts)
61. They support ICE.
Sat Jan 24, 2026, 06:47 PM
1 hr ago

There’s no way around that fact. They’re not going to do anything. They just voted to fund them the other day. I don’t give a fuck if it was “just” seven of them, it should have been none of them.

I’m tired of this “good cop/bad cop we all support the accumulation of capital” charade.

This is a fascist country. It always has been. It always will be unless people get together and do something about it because this system isn’t going to save us.

Srkdqltr

(9,448 posts)
64. Every democratic lawmaker in house senate and governor should be in Minnesota tomorrow.
Sat Jan 24, 2026, 06:52 PM
1 hr ago

Any who are able. There are airplanes everywhere. Just take warm coats and go.

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