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applegrove

(130,714 posts)
Sat Jan 24, 2026, 06:26 PM 20 hrs ago

Don't Noem and Miller know there are videos? This is baiting the American public. This is an assault on the public

Last edited Sat Jan 24, 2026, 07:26 PM - Edit history (1)

Noem:

"This individual... committed an act of domestic terrorism."

Alex Pretti was not a domestic terrorist. He was a nurse. And ICE officers murdered him, without any possible legal justification for doing so. The video evidence irrefutably demonstrates that.

Adam Schwarz (@adamjschwarz.bsky.social) 2026-01-24T22:56:23.575Z


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Belinda Ballard (@lynieb.bsky.social) 2026-01-24T20:12:29.299Z
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Don't Noem and Miller know there are videos? This is baiting the American public. This is an assault on the public (Original Post) applegrove 20 hrs ago OP
"Who are you going to believe, me or your own eyes?" - Chico Marx sop 20 hrs ago #1
darn it - I stopped to look up the year and ya beat me to it. i'd laugh if it wasn't such a sad topic. n/t CincyDem 20 hrs ago #7
No incentive not to lie since there are never any consequences. NT 617Blue 20 hrs ago #2
she's not looking as smug as usual and no fake cowboy hat either nt msongs 20 hrs ago #3
I noticed this too and the big FEMA backdrop mr715 20 hrs ago #9
who you gonna believe baby...me or your lyin' eyes? -Chico Marx (1933) n/t CincyDem 20 hrs ago #4
She does, Trump does not. mr715 20 hrs ago #5
Hegsbreath ties with her in my book vapor2 17 hrs ago #25
She really doesn't seem to be Bettie 20 hrs ago #6
They don't care. They want to get their false narrative ahead of the actual facts Ocelot II 20 hrs ago #8
This FHRRK 20 hrs ago #11
They don't care. BlueTsunami2018 20 hrs ago #10
Peaceful protests are what beat dictators. Violence is never applegrove 20 hrs ago #13
Peaceful protests won't get you anywhere. BlueTsunami2018 19 hrs ago #22
ICE is initiating the violence KentuckyWoman 19 hrs ago #23
See my sig line... sarisataka 20 hrs ago #12
Noem also labeled every lawful gun owner with a license to carry, which Alex Pretti had, a "domestic terrorist" anneboleyn 20 hrs ago #14
Their words are intended for a specific audience (Trump himself and the MAGA cultists)... JHB 20 hrs ago #15
Their words are meant to enrage us. applegrove 19 hrs ago #16
Of course they know. THEY DON'T CARE. WhiskeyGrinder 19 hrs ago #17
They dont care. Shutdown the government Johonny 19 hrs ago #18
They know their cult doesn't care about mzmolly 19 hrs ago #19
"The [Republican] Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears... alterfurz 19 hrs ago #20
Marsha Gessen - Surviving Autocracy - The Power Lie / the Bully Lie; and the tension of reality vs constant lies lostnfound 55 min ago #30
She's a prime candidate for... 2naSalit 19 hrs ago #21
No one holds them accountable for their lies/actions vapor2 17 hrs ago #24
They have proved we cannot trust anything they say! surfered 17 hrs ago #26
A new video debunking their lies becomes public every few minutes, yet they doggedly persist in repeating them. sop 17 hrs ago #27
Hope one day we could revok their citizenship & send them off to Russia. SunImp 17 hrs ago #28
The local Sinclair station gave us the Noem story instead of the facts. Chemical Bill 8 hrs ago #29
Hey magats, there's your "gun rights" for you. GoodRaisin 10 min ago #31

CincyDem

(7,328 posts)
7. darn it - I stopped to look up the year and ya beat me to it. i'd laugh if it wasn't such a sad topic. n/t
Sat Jan 24, 2026, 06:31 PM
20 hrs ago

mr715

(3,051 posts)
9. I noticed this too and the big FEMA backdrop
Sat Jan 24, 2026, 06:33 PM
20 hrs ago

Let's remember she runs an agency that is so supposed to coordinate a lot of things. Now, a giant storm. Plus god-knows-what with the Coast Guard and Hegseth/Rubio's imperial adventures.

Maybe her boss is getting tired of her getting all the spotlight and him having to clean up after her.

I'd love to see her get cut loose. She and Nikki Haley can form a book club. You know, one where they burn books.

mr715

(3,051 posts)
5. She does, Trump does not.
Sat Jan 24, 2026, 06:30 PM
20 hrs ago

He will be convinced what he sees on TV news is fake.

In any other administration, heads would roll. Like -- entire agencies dismantled. And that is exactly what we should do when we win Congress and the Presidency.

I can think of few people I hate more than Noem. She is so utterly cruel and inhuman, and so vain. I'd be nice to see her get her due.

vapor2

(3,973 posts)
25. Hegsbreath ties with her in my book
Sat Jan 24, 2026, 09:03 PM
17 hrs ago

especially when he wasted time and money to summon every general to his shit show

Bettie

(19,374 posts)
6. She really doesn't seem to be
Sat Jan 24, 2026, 06:31 PM
20 hrs ago

very smart....so, no, she probably figures that she can lie and no one will ever know, because she's so very clever and beloved...in her own head.

Ocelot II

(129,524 posts)
8. They don't care. They want to get their false narrative ahead of the actual facts
Sat Jan 24, 2026, 06:32 PM
20 hrs ago

to plant their lies in the tiny brains of the MAGA cult, who only ever see Fox and right-wing social media.

FHRRK

(1,380 posts)
11. This
Sat Jan 24, 2026, 06:38 PM
20 hrs ago

A local woman posted on Nextdoor about her sadness. It took less than a handful of posts before a MAGAt went off on a tirade. Don’t try to run over ICE, don’t abandon your five year old, don’t point a gun at a federal agent.

I simply stated, please post one image of him pointing a gun at anyone.

Point being they don’t care and in 48 to 72 hours they will all claim he pointed a gun at an officer.

BlueTsunami2018

(4,903 posts)
10. They don't care.
Sat Jan 24, 2026, 06:33 PM
20 hrs ago

Because there is no accountability. They’ll lie about it like the last one and no one will do anything about it. And the cycle will continue until the People decide enough is enough.

I’m sorry but Revolution is the only way out of this.

BlueTsunami2018

(4,903 posts)
22. Peaceful protests won't get you anywhere.
Sat Jan 24, 2026, 07:46 PM
19 hrs ago

Just ask the dude murdered today.

Oh wait.

The only way to remove dictators is to force them out. Hitler, Mussolini come to mind.

KentuckyWoman

(7,378 posts)
23. ICE is initiating the violence
Sat Jan 24, 2026, 07:51 PM
19 hrs ago

I may be misinformed but the murder from today was a protest no where near where ICE was operating. If that is accurate then it looks like ICE went where they knew people were for the soul purpose of starting shit.

Trump pulled the same with BLM protests. He sent the goons in to start the violence.

In such a case, peaceful protest is still the way to go but you can still end up dead.

anneboleyn

(5,620 posts)
14. Noem also labeled every lawful gun owner with a license to carry, which Alex Pretti had, a "domestic terrorist"
Sat Jan 24, 2026, 06:50 PM
20 hrs ago

who can be murdered by ice agents no matter what the 2A says about a citizens rights

JHB

(38,019 posts)
15. Their words are intended for a specific audience (Trump himself and the MAGA cultists)...
Sat Jan 24, 2026, 06:52 PM
20 hrs ago

...and those people don't care about facts or video.

Johonny

(25,644 posts)
18. They dont care. Shutdown the government
Sat Jan 24, 2026, 07:04 PM
19 hrs ago

No more funding until Noem and Miller are fired. Accountability or bust. Take as long as it takes foe president moron to get the message. If it is 2027, fuck it, no more funding. Shut it all down.

alterfurz

(2,675 posts)
20. "The [Republican] Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears...
Sat Jan 24, 2026, 07:15 PM
19 hrs ago

...It was their final, most essential command." - - George Orwell, 1984

We know they are lying. They know they are lying. They know that we know they are lying. We know that they know that we know they are lying. And still they continue to lie. -- Alexander Solzhenitsyn

lostnfound

(17,432 posts)
30. Marsha Gessen - Surviving Autocracy - The Power Lie / the Bully Lie; and the tension of reality vs constant lies
Sun Jan 25, 2026, 02:01 PM
55 min ago

Masha Gess from Surviving Autocracy
“The Trumpian lie is different. It is the power lie, or the bully lie. It is the lie of the bigger kid who took your hat and is wearing it—while denying that he took it. There is no defense against this lie because the point of the lie is to assert power, to show “I can say what I want when I want to.” The power lie conjures a different reality and demands that you choose between your experience and the bully’s demands:”

“Are you going to believe your own eyes or the headlines? This is the dilemma of people who live in totalitarian societies. Trusting one’s own perceptions is a lonely lot; believing one’s own eyes and being vocal about it is dangerous. Believing the propaganda—or, rather, accepting the propaganda as one’s reality—carries the promise of a less anxious existence, in harmony with the majority of one’s fellow citizens. The path to peace of mind lies in giving one’s mind over to the regime. Bizarrely, the experience of living in the United States during the Trump presidency reproduces this dilemma. Being an engaged citizen of Trump’s America means living in a constant state of cognitive tension. One cannot put the president and his lies out of one’s mind, because he is the president. Accepting that the president continuously tweets or says things that are not true, are known not to be true, are intended to be heard or read as power lies, and will continue to be broadcast—on Twitter and by the media—after they have been repeatedly disproven means accepting a constant challenge to fact-based reality. In effect, it means that the two realities—Trumpian and fact-based—come to exist side by side, on equal ground. The tension is draining. The need to pay constant attention to the lies is exhausting, and it is compounded by the feeling of helplessness in the face of the ridiculous and repeated lies.”

surfered

(12,037 posts)
26. They have proved we cannot trust anything they say!
Sat Jan 24, 2026, 09:20 PM
17 hrs ago

They are lying liar! Just like their boss. In fact, the ability to lie shamelessly is why Trump picked them

sop

(17,727 posts)
27. A new video debunking their lies becomes public every few minutes, yet they doggedly persist in repeating them.
Sat Jan 24, 2026, 09:20 PM
17 hrs ago

Like this video which appears to show the agents realizing Pretti's gun wasn't on the body as they had hoped:

ICE asks "Where's the gun?" - not realizing one of them had already taken it away before the shots were fired.

https://www.reddit.com/r/minnesota/comments/1qm0egw/ice_asks_wheres_the_gun_not_realizing_one_of_them/

Chemical Bill

(3,102 posts)
29. The local Sinclair station gave us the Noem story instead of the facts.
Sun Jan 25, 2026, 06:55 AM
8 hrs ago

Who needs Fox News anymore?

GoodRaisin

(10,767 posts)
31. Hey magats, there's your "gun rights" for you.
Sun Jan 25, 2026, 02:46 PM
10 min ago

Miller said the silent part out loud. You are a “domestic terrorist” if his Murder Force catches you carrying your gun.

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