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As of 2021The total number of unauthorized immigrants in the U.S. is estimated to be 10.5 million.
Highest Populations:
California: 1.9 million
Texas: 1.6 million
Florida: 900,000
New York: 600,000
Moderate Populations:
New Jersey: 450,000
Illinois: 400,000
Arizona: 250,000
Georgia: 350,000
North Carolina: 325,000
Washington: 300,000
Virginia: 275,000
Maryland: 275,000
Colorado: 160,000
Nevada: 190,000
Lower Populations (less than 50,000 in several states):
States like Idaho, Montana, South Dakota, Wyoming, Vermont, Maine, West Virginia, and others have fewer than 5,000 unauthorized immigrants each.
The states currently being targeted with trump's ICE brutality:
Minnesota: 81,000
Maine: 5,000
https://brilliantmaps.com/number-of-unauthorized-illegal-immigrants-by-us-state/
This is NOT about immigration control!!
malaise
(293,584 posts)This is about stealing elections
fujiyamasan
(1,367 posts)Its easier to go door to door and nab darker people. This is all about Somalian immigrants right now. Theyll scale up over time and ratchet it up against other groups.
mysteryowl
(8,409 posts)They tried using National Guard as trumps army, it didn't work.
Lovie777
(22,050 posts)they as well as the NG were not happy about it. Finally the courts shot down the use of NG in some states, although D.C. has been thrust upon with excess NGs.
Now they want to bring in thousands of soldiers into Minnesota but in order to do that they would have claim the insurrection act.
But alas, the current government is the republican party and in my opinion are the actual insurrectionists.
mysteryowl
(8,409 posts)fujiyamasan
(1,367 posts)Theyre still grabbing people in LA and SD from what Ive read. I havent seen them in my neck of the woods, but I have a feeling theyll ratchet it back up at some point. LA is huge and every other person is a shade of brown. Easier to target minorities in a whiter city like Minneapolis or Portland (or a state like Maine).
As much as he hates Newsom, I think he hates Walz, Omar, and Somalians (and pretty much all African immigrants) even more.
littlemissmartypants
(32,147 posts)mysteryowl
(8,409 posts)and trump hates them.
The kind of reasoning a tyrant would have.
malaise
(293,584 posts)More intelligent than his third wife
Captain Zero
(8,776 posts)Her handlers back in the Kremlin.
malaise
(293,584 posts)😀
rurallib
(64,582 posts)at some gathering last February when she said she would see him in court.
I think for Trump it is pure retribution. So were California and Portland
Lonestarblue
(13,280 posts)Haitians and Somalis have both been targeted.
Munu
(131 posts)Response to Munu (Reply #6)
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democrank
(12,283 posts)An abhorrent national Stephen Miller style skin color cleansing, an attempt to cause maximum chaos and financial damage to blue cities/states and an opportunity to decrease voter turnout for the midterm elections.
COL Mustard
(8,038 posts)Going after the worst of the worst. That would involve significant danger and Bovino and his henchmen arent about that at all. This is performative, with an occasional license to kill.
travelingthrulife
(4,659 posts)mysteryowl
(8,409 posts)sinkingfeeling
(57,395 posts)paleotn
(21,736 posts)mysteryowl
(8,409 posts)paleotn
(21,736 posts)Attilatheblond
(8,435 posts)In the letter, Bondi blamed both state and local leaders for the unrest that has come in response to the Trump administration's immigration enforcement operations. She said that Walz could "restore the rule of law."
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Bondi set out a list of three demands in the letter, including that the Department of Justice be given the states voter registration records, that the state repeal the "sanctuary policies," and share its records on Medicaid, and Food and Nutrition Service programs.
Trump/Bondi demand the state repeals "sacntuary policies", information on who gets state aid and voter information from Walz. States run their elections, not the federal government. Demanding voter information is a political goal. ICE is not doing immigration investigations, they have been unleashed, and possibly ordered to do violence and intimidation on the public. They are committing crimes of violence.
What Trump/Bondi/Noem/Bovino/Miller are doing IS TERRORISM.
surfered
(12,051 posts)mysteryowl
(8,409 posts)paleotn
(21,736 posts)Or Newsome. It's targeted and designed to get in your head. Don't let it. Don't give these people more power than they actually have. Stand strong and remember the bulk of this regime is nothing but smoke and mirrors.
travelingthrulife
(4,659 posts)Chicago. Both Pritzker and Newsom beat them back with difficulty.
Everyone dismisses it when it happens on the west coast or in a large city like Chicago.
Portland and Seattle have been dealing with Trump's agitators and brown shirts since at least 2020.
paleotn
(21,736 posts)I'm not downplaying certain localized impacts, but think about it. Did that fucking with in LA really impact the lives of the vast majority of Angelenos and surrounding cities? No. The majority of us have never even seen an ICE thug except on TV or the internet. My point is, it's smoke and mirrors meant to get inside our heads and cause fear. Don't let them do that.
In simple physical terms, there aren't enough of them. ~22K ICE goons, if you believe their numbers, in a nation of 343 MILLION people. Most of that 22K is either fictitious or office personnel not doing actual raids. There's just not enough of them. Yes, they can damage or destroy certain individual lives, but for the vast majority of us it's all perception not substance. And that perception only has power if we believe it. Don't believe it.
mysteryowl
(8,409 posts)I think LA was the primary target.
MichMan
(16,770 posts)a) the states with the highest numbers of immigrants are also the states with the highest overall populations, and b) that data set is several years old.
Top 10 most populous states in order;
California
Texas
Florida
New York
Pennsylvania
Illinois
Ohio
Georgia
North Carolina
Michigan
Of course large states California or Texas would have substantially more immigrants than a state like Vermont or South Dakota.
mysteryowl
(8,409 posts)GopherGal
(2,818 posts)an immigration enforcement crackdown. Without any scare quotes.
They are seemingly buying into the maladministration's story that this has anything to do with enforcing immigration rules. It has more to do with Lyin' Liferaft Lips' anxiousness to ingratiate herself to the Diapered Despot, enforcing a temperamental toddler's tantrum.