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Over the past year, we’ve documented corruption at every layer of the U.S. electoral system—from back-door “de minimis” updates to voting equipment¹ and fake “ghost counties,” to more than 1.5 million votes for Kamala Harris disappearing in real time on Election Night.² We found it, we documented it, and we sounded the alarm—whether anyone wanted to hear it or not.
Now, a growing number of independent journalists are arriving at the same conclusion, following the evidence to the same unavoidable place.
“This is a 6,500-word article that can be summed up as follows: the GOP had motive, they had means, and they had opportunity. Every institution that could have stopped them chose to look the other way—or participate—in stealing the 2024 election. The proof is here.”
— Christopher Armitage, The Existentialist Republic³
Yet even as more than 41% of Democrats believe the election was stolen, Hakeem Jeffries maintains that there are “no election deniers” on this side of the aisle.⁴ And now, Ken Martin has announced that the Democratic National Committee will not release its internal analysis of the 2024 presidential election.⁵
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Donald Trump publicly thanked Elon Musk for his knowledge of “those vote-counting computers” in Pennsylvania²⁵—and state attorneys general didn’t bat an eye:
Trump, “So, thank you to Elon.”
https://thiswillhold.substack.com/p/how-did-43598-of-voters-cast-ballots
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Baitball Blogger
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Emile
(41,028 posts)Botany
(76,571 posts)Presidential vote like in North Carolina, voting blocks like the right for women to choose what to do
with their bodies that had won just about every election post the overturning of Roe v Wade disappeared, during the 2024 election, Trump’s train wreck of a campaign, Harris and Walz’s huge turn outs @ campaign
events, bomb threats to polling places, the lies about school kids getting trans operations, hanging chad,
SCOTUS ruling, the price of eggs lies, and so on always has favored republicans.
If there was no manipulation of the vote then a simple bell shaped curve would show “events on both
sides” but that never happens.
LIBERAL MEDIA 
barbtries
(31,179 posts)here in NC Democrats won almost all the down ballot races.
but I just felt, and still do, that I don't get any mileage from dwelling on it. I need to address the actual conditions on the ground right now.
I am glad that people are doing this research and fervently hope that one day, there will be justice.
PS in my book gw lost twice. so there's that. I am not a kook.
31st Street Bridge
(119 posts)That's why the Child Rapist Felon-47 keeps saying 2020 was rigged; so no one on our side dare say 2024 really was rigged. History may one day reveal all the chicanery we're living through. There's so much $$$$ to steal, they'll do anything to rig every vote. After all, what media will report it?
yellow dahlia
(4,990 posts)yellow dahlia
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Scrivener7
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Native
(7,314 posts)Combined Precinct Data: For the 2024 general election, Northampton County combined "Lower Mt. Bethel D Lower" (Precinct 760) and "Lower Mt. Bethel D Independent" for tabulation purposes.
Voter Registration Mismatch: The Pennsylvania state reporting file listed only 164 registered voters for Precinct 760 specifically. However, the actual vote count of 715 for that location included voters from both the "Lower" and "Independent" districts (which had 739 registered voters of its own).
The Calculation Error: Dividing the combined total of 715 votes by only the 164 registered voters assigned to the "Lower" sub-precinct in the state file created the mathematically impossible percentage of 435.98%.
Official Confirmation: While unofficial election night reporting by private vendors sometimes contains these clerical data-mapping errors, official county records reflect a normal turnout percentage when both combined registration totals are accounted for.
Northampton County has experienced other clerical issues in the past, such as a 2023 human error where judicial retention race names were flipped on printed paper ballots, though the machine barcodes recorded the votes correctly.
Botany
(76,571 posts)Native
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KS Toronado
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edhopper
(37,143 posts)which looks high. How were the votes compared to past elections.
How does this compare to 2020?
Wiz Imp
(9,151 posts)Thiswillhold is a total fraud. None of their claims are true.
malaise
(293,584 posts)Very important
Mystery To Me
(38 posts)47% to 44% lead In Iowa. Trump won the state by 13.2 points. In times past, a discrepancy like that would have been highly suspect.
Kaleva
(40,261 posts)Mystery To Me
(38 posts)but I think there were some that were even more favorable. I do remember there was high expectations that Kamala would win. And then to have her loose by a wider margin than any presidential candidate since 1972. It is just one of many things about 2024 that make me go hmmm.
Kaleva
(40,261 posts)Mystery To Me
(38 posts)One of the things I like most about DU.
Kaleva
(40,261 posts)I’m here to learn and part of the learning process is to be corrected when I’m wrong and be challenged to provide reliable sources to back up my statements.
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KS Toronado
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Kaleva
(40,261 posts)Of which 715 voted, indicating a normal voter turnout.
Precinct 760 covers Lower Mt. Bethel Township.
EdmondDantes_
(1,449 posts)The substack certainly doesn't link to where they got their data from
Botany
(76,571 posts)These are serious people from I.T., computer sciences, engineering, and statistical services.
EdmondDantes_
(1,449 posts)Every time I've looked up the numbers they've claimed in the past, they lied. I see no reason to doubt they've done so again, but it would be nice to have the link handy.
And now that the link to the official numbers has been provided, we know with certainty that the ETA and the substack are lying to us again.
Kaleva
(40,261 posts)Precinct 760 consists of LOWER MT. BETHEL TWSP LOWER.
EdmondDantes_
(1,449 posts)Not to ETA or that substack, but to some of us
Kaleva
(40,261 posts)biocube
(182 posts)Have any more reputable media outlets picked this up?
If there was anything to go on, I feel confident state level Democratic parties would sue.
NJCher
(42,624 posts)When they refuse to release their 2024 report.
When they vote to substantially fund ice after one, now two murders.
Wiz Imp
(9,151 posts)Such ridiculous statements accomplish nothing other than yo make you look foolish.
NJCher
(42,624 posts)where they released the report.
As for my other statement, up until recently they were intending to vote for it. If you don't know that, you've failed to keep yourself up to date.
AOC came out and said no one should vote for this and Schumer subsequently came out with that position.
You are the one who looks foolish.
Wiz Imp
(9,151 posts)Whoever is behind Thiswillhold is every bit as big a crackpot as MikeLindell and any other election denier on the right. It is beyond embarrassing that there continue to be people here who buy into that garbage.
And sorry, but nothing is more foolish than saying Democrats voted for funding ICE after 2 murders when no vote has taken place after the second murder. I've spoken only facts. If you think that sounds foolish, that says a whole lot more about you than it does about me. Bye.
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Lonestarblue
(13,280 posts)They all act as though the elections will be fair and there is nothing to worry about. The fact that the Dominion voting machine company is now owed by one of Trump’s buddies should at least cause some extra checks of the programming in those machines. If there’s a way to cheat, Republicans will use it.
Javaman
(65,264 posts)It was fixed via Elon’s tabulation software.
Why do you think he and the orange asshole are buddy buddy again?
And why has Elon been so quiet lately, hmmmm?
waterwatcher123
(484 posts)If you have a few moments, consider writing Joe Rogan's show to ask him to invite Elon Musk to the program to explain how he knew the 2024 presidential election results four hours in advance. No secretary of state would have allowed a citizen access to voter data four hours before the polls closed. In fact, many of these precincts and voting districts would not have posted data until after 8:00 p.m. when the polls closed in the east (even later in different time zones). So, what explanation is there other than Elon had some piece of software installed on machines or tabulators that either manipulated the data or provided information in advance of any official data releases? Elon spent 270 million dollars to elect Trump. No one invests that kind of money without a clear path to the ROI.
Just to be clear too. I am sure Elon would not disclose to anyone how his app worked or whether he engaged in election theft. However, these people have such big egos that they can hardly restrain themselves from talking about their technological prowess.
Here is the link to Joe Rogan website form if you care to write (https://www.joeroganexperiencereview.com/contact).
This is what I said to him writing the first time (of course, there was no response). I probably should not have mentioned that I am not a fan of the show.
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Hello,
I am not a fan of your show. However, I did see a clip during the 2024 presidential election where Mr. Rogan mentioned that Elon Musk knew about the presidential election results up to four hours ahead of everyone else. Later, Musk's son (X) all but admitted (hard for a small child to keep secrets) that Elon and his crew had tampered with the election.
I do not want to live in a country controlled by a megalomaniac who is constantly under the influence of ketamine. As such, I think it would be very interesting and timely to consider inviting Elon on your show to see if he will explain what he did with the election besides spend tons of money. I suspect he used his 650 direct to cell satellites to wake up and download an algorithm on ES&S and Dominion voting machines. However, no one can say for sure since the American public is so fickle that voting behavior swings widely from election to election.
I would guess your audience would like to know that someone is not choosing their elected leaders via electronic manipulation. Trump ran an anemic campaign in 2024. Yet, he someone managed to win all the swing states and flip counties that had never voted Republican. Not a single red county flipped the other way. This is very strange behavior that cannot be explained by the strength of his campaign or advertising (people generally do not switch parties that easily).
The Republican party has been perfecting election theft since they staged the fake outrage in Miami-Dade County, Florida in 2000 with operatives. The Democrats probably stole elections prior to that time with on-the-ground efforts in Chicago (Nixon accused Kennedy of such an effort). Either way, we need to know if someone is tampering with our election results (even foreign countries). Elon Musk has the technical capability to do it nationwide with his satellite network. It would be nice for you to ask him point blank about how he knew early results and whether his network connected with any of these voting machines as they were in sleep mode in voting locations (plugged in, but not active).
There are plenty of ways operatives can influence elections. However, someone who tampers with electronic results controls the outcome in a very predictable and inexpensive way. None of us want to live in a world where nothing we do or say makes any difference.
Please consider this as a show or podcast idea.
DFW
(59,800 posts)Ohio in 2004 was the Florida of 2000. 2004 was the first year in which electronic voting machines were first widely used in a presidential election. Diebold vote counting machines were made in Ohio. Its CEO declared he would "deliver Ohio for Bush." Ohio's Secretary of State was also the Ohio chairman of the Bush re-election committee. Exit polls indicated that Kerry had won Ohio. Although Bush's win was a "surprise upset," Diebold went to court to get their vote counting machines designated "private property," and thus ineligible for forensic examination to make sure their reported results were accurate. However ONE of their machines, way out in some rural precinct DID get forensically examined before its owners came to collect it. This was a precinct with 600 registered voters. The machine reported 3000 votes for Bush. The machine's makers declared that it was just a "glitch" that by no means warranted forensic examination of the other machines. The Republicans did magnanimously reduce the margin of victory in Ohio by 2400 votes, though.
Forget Republican claims of "anti-kommanism." They are the consummate Stalinists ("Those who cast the votes decide nothing. Those who count the votes decide everything" ). правду сказать, товарищи!!
NBachers
(19,238 posts)Edited to add photo of Bush wearing a device in the first debate. https://www.salon.com/2004/10/30/bulge_5/
Attilatheblond
(8,435 posts)And money was taken out of your checking account immediately, not 'float time' anymore. Why? Because banks could run check thru a computer system at the end of the day. The money got transferred IMMEDIATELY! People who were counting on that good ol 'float time' it used to take from the time someone cashed your check until it was cleared from you checking account got hit with LOTS of overdraft charges. Banks make a lot of money on those charges.
The banks were getting all those overdraft charges because they went along with the new clearing procedure. They had to buy new comupter system to do all that. The maker of that computer system, the company that made a shit load of money because every bank in the US had to buy one? Diebold!
Cheney made sure they controlled vote counting via Diebold machines and he made sure Diebold and banks made a lot of money for going along.
KPN
(17,177 posts)devoid of meaningful rigging. It's actually easier for me to believe at least three of them were rigged, especially since we know with pretty damned close to 100% certainty that 2000 was.
We Democrats are thoughtful to a fault it seems. We question everything, including ourselves and the evidence we "think" exists. Meanwhile, the Rs go for the kill at every turn. It's no wonder we -- America -- are in the state we currently are in. Instead of simply going for the electoral kill, the Rs have turned to a more direct technique. They are now willfully killing us.
DFW
(59,800 posts)yellow dahlia
(4,990 posts)made worse by the fact that it is being perpetrated by an illegitimate administration take over.
Ford_Prefect
(8,524 posts)No shit. It's what they do .... And they Absolutely did do it!
Autumn
(48,828 posts)KPN
(17,177 posts)openly told us what they were doing themselves 20+ years ago when Karl Rove said,
"... when we act, we create our own reality. And while you're studying that reality—judiciously, as you will—we'll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that's how things will sort out. We're history's actors...and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do."
Joinfortmill
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Clouds Passing
(7,246 posts)Soon comes in the we are not going to be election deniers like the gqp.
Even though there is ample proof and public confessions by the gestapo party.
KPN
(17,177 posts)
EdmondDantes_
(1,449 posts)Up thread a link to the actual accurate vote totals was posted proving the claim in the substack and ETA are once again lies.
So no, there's not ample evidence because what is claimed as evidence is simply false.
ColoringFool
(362 posts)NAME OF THE CORRESPONDING LOWER MT. BETHEL TOWNSHIP.
Sympthsical
(10,883 posts)A 6th grade math education and the ability to read state election websites is sufficient to debunk this stuff in the less than 30 seconds. Which some brave DUers do every single time, and yet this dishonest, grifting substack still gets posted here on the regular to keep the stages of grief alive.
This stuff is yikes on bikes.
When do we have enough problems where this kind of social media conspiracy mongering that relies on math illiteracy is no longer a luxury we can afford to have? Because it feels like we should be there by now.
And the message that, "It doesn't matter if you vote, because space hackers will steal it!" is dangerous in its ability to discourage people to vote. We need every vote we can get to emerge from this mess.
And still these games get played.
This is what privilege looks like. To have the time to play in this way.
Scruffy1
(3,510 posts)We don't have time and energy to waste on this bullshit. The orange ass got about the same votes as in 2020 but just like in 2010 the Democratic vote fell off. I blame a lot of it on the media and their hyping of the immigration "crises". The media will never be our friend so we have to be very smart on how to use it. It's not boring debates that change no ones minds anymore. The internet has changed the rules. It's whoever is the quickest and loudest. One only has to read the posts here to realize that for a keyboard warrior accuracy, spelling and grammar have gone out the window. Some like Jasmine Crocket and AOC know how to use it.
The attack on electronic voting is particularly upsetting. Quality is in the process. There is an old saying that 100% inspection is only 80% effective. The main way the Fascists have skewed elections is by voter suppression. And that's so easy even the total idiot in charge can do it. Make it harder for Democrats to vote by reducing voting sites is one easy way. Voter ID bs is another.
Jedi Guy
(3,429 posts)Why didn't Biden say or do something? Why didn't Harris herself say or do something? Why didn't the Democratic Party say or do something? I've yet to see anything approaching a reasonable answer to these questions.
To believe the election was stolen, let alone stolen so blatantly, one must necessarily believe that the Democratic Party, from Joe Biden on down, was too stupid, too cowardly, or too unconcerned to say or do anything about it. One must necessarily believe that they all stood aside and allowed it to happen without making a peep and haven't made a peep over a year later.
I simply can't believe that the entire Democratic Party meekly stood aside and just let it happen. It makes no logical sense.
JudyM
(29,605 posts)we throw our hands up and let it go. why didn't we do anything about bush/cheney when we regained power? we should be fighting like the country depends on it. if we regain power let's hope we do some repairs so the elections are genuinely secure and so that the likes of mcconnell et al start having some guardrails.
annielion
(91 posts)The biggest I problem I see is that so many people do not understand computers. Our votes have been counted on computers beginning with the 2024 election.
A computer is a pile of electronic equipment until it has a program. The computer's first program is its operating system.
No matter who the Democratic candidate had been - Joe Biden, Kamela Harris, anyone else - the results would have been exactly the same. Exactly. The tabulators (vote-counting computers) were programmed to give Trump the win exactly as it happened.
People who scream and yell about our elections being fair without understanding computers need to learn a little bit about computers. Please
Botany
(76,571 posts)Firmware patches that allowed external monitoring of the vote data and manipulation of that
data was on the E.S.&S. and Dominion Voting Systems operating systems and on central tabulators.
https://thiswillhold.substack.com/p/she-won-they-didnt-just-change-the
Google:
Eaton & Tripp Lite
Eaton and Palantir (Peter Thiel’s company)
Palantir and digital janitor
Eaton and Starlink
Starlink and DTC
Starlink and low earth orbit satellites
So do I have control over the content of the internet.
Trump, I don’t need any more votes. 2024
annielion
(91 posts)I also like the websites This Will Hold and Election Truth Alliance.
yellow dahlia
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TomWilm
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kerouac2
(1,452 posts)The question is, are there trumpers willing to risk everything to try to steal an election for him like that. I think we all know that the answer is yes, especially after the past year. There is no line they won't cross.