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DonCoquixote

(13,945 posts)
Sun Jan 25, 2026, 01:03 PM 10 hrs ago

Why Intelligent People Become Stupid? Bonhoeffer's Theory



If you ever wonder why people who were smart enough to gain some achievement, yet are stupid, this will explain it. Yes, this fellow is the one that warn about how no one spoke for him after he abandoned hiss friends that were against the Nazis
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Why Intelligent People Become Stupid? Bonhoeffer's Theory (Original Post) DonCoquixote 10 hrs ago OP
Cult NewHendoLib 10 hrs ago #1
This video is AI slop. See reply 15. highplainsdem 6 hrs ago #18
Too many of our best bridge players are GOP. ananda 10 hrs ago #2
shouldn't that read, To play Bridge WELL? Conjuay 9 hrs ago #3
Lost how exactly? ananda 7 hrs ago #14
A good bridge player is also ruthless and cunning. Looking for weaknesses erronis 9 hrs ago #6
In fact, that's a requirement of the game. ananda 7 hrs ago #13
Bridge has all but died out in this country, so it is kind of a pointless statement to make. valleyrogue 9 hrs ago #8
And you know this how? ananda 7 hrs ago #12
And this stat you're quoting is from ... where? Just curious... SWBTATTReg 4 hrs ago #27
Everyone is stupid sometimes. And just about everyone can be stupid about certain things. JHB 9 hrs ago #4
I think part of it is group think Tree Lady 9 hrs ago #5
Grammar Nazis Sweet Rosie Red 9 hrs ago #7
This message was self-deleted by its author usonian 9 hrs ago #9
Of that video? It's AI slop from a channel of only AI slop. See reply 15. highplainsdem 6 hrs ago #17
How TF can anyone know it's slop until either watching it or getting a transcript. usonian 6 hrs ago #19
It took me about 15 seconds to determine it was slop. BluesRunTheGame 6 hrs ago #20
They are pretty obvious, but I like to check out the channel a bit more to show more reasons it's obviously highplainsdem 5 hrs ago #22
I've recently stumbled onto to content where it isn't immediately obvious. BluesRunTheGame 5 hrs ago #23
That's why I check for credentials (with AI there won't be any or they won't be real) and how recent the highplainsdem 5 hrs ago #26
I didn't even look at the video. Copied the link and got the transcript in order to skim. usonian 5 hrs ago #25
I didn't even look at the video. Copied the link and got the transcript in order to skim. usonian 5 hrs ago #24
You can tell it's slop looking at the channel. AI art, often in different styles. Recently created channel highplainsdem 5 hrs ago #21
AI slop from an AI slop channel. BluesRunTheGame 8 hrs ago #10
Yes. See reply 15. highplainsdem 6 hrs ago #16
I do think in some cases that neurodiversity can be a double-edged sword. meadowlander 8 hrs ago #11
Please don't post AI slop, which is what that channel is. It appears to be entirely generated by AI, and highplainsdem 6 hrs ago #15
Smart people can believe stupid things, frequently for emotional reasons FullySupportDems 4 hrs ago #28

ananda

(34,545 posts)
2. Too many of our best bridge players are GOP.
Sun Jan 25, 2026, 01:11 PM
10 hrs ago

And it takes serious intelligence to play good bridge,
believe me.

erronis

(22,883 posts)
6. A good bridge player is also ruthless and cunning. Looking for weaknesses
Sun Jan 25, 2026, 01:31 PM
9 hrs ago

and going for the kill.

There is no empathy in duplicate bridge.

ananda

(34,545 posts)
13. In fact, that's a requirement of the game.
Sun Jan 25, 2026, 03:55 PM
7 hrs ago

It's against the rules to help the opponent.

valleyrogue

(2,619 posts)
8. Bridge has all but died out in this country, so it is kind of a pointless statement to make.
Sun Jan 25, 2026, 01:39 PM
9 hrs ago

Playing a card game means nothing.

Being a selfish, greedy, bigoted asshole is basically what it means to be a "conservative" (overused by millennials and Gen Z types too young to know what it really means) or a supporter of the regime.

Trump is exactly like they are, as are 99 percent of the billionaire class.

Selfish, greedy, bigoted assholes. Trump has made being a selfish, greedy, bigoted asshole a virtue.

THAT is what people of the political right, including the "libertarians," actually ARE.

ananda

(34,545 posts)
12. And you know this how?
Sun Jan 25, 2026, 03:54 PM
7 hrs ago

In the last world championship,
several of our Austin members
got first place.

I know for a fact that bridge is
flourishing in the USA.

SWBTATTReg

(26,114 posts)
27. And this stat you're quoting is from ... where? Just curious...
Sun Jan 25, 2026, 06:58 PM
4 hrs ago

Playing a card game you infer this or have grabbed it from somewhere?

JHB

(38,025 posts)
4. Everyone is stupid sometimes. And just about everyone can be stupid about certain things.
Sun Jan 25, 2026, 01:26 PM
9 hrs ago

Con men play on that. They'll identify the things that evoke a visceral reaction and switch off your rationality -- anger, fear, greed, urgency, desperate want, etc. -- and work them to manipulate you.

From street-huckster shell games to internet scams, from salesmen and their "a limited time offer"s to people saying they can help you talk to your dead relatives, they all use these tricks to get you to hand over your bucks.

Anger and fear, especially shaped into the form of righteous outrage, is addictive. The Right knows this. It's their business model, and they've been working the country over for half a century.

Tree Lady

(13,057 posts)
5. I think part of it is group think
Sun Jan 25, 2026, 01:30 PM
9 hrs ago

Surrounded by others with a set opinion they start to form that opinion.

Response to DonCoquixote (Original post)

usonian

(23,829 posts)
19. How TF can anyone know it's slop until either watching it or getting a transcript.
Sun Jan 25, 2026, 04:52 PM
6 hrs ago

I'm getting blisters getting transcripts from blind video links.

If you REALLY want to help, and save me all these blisters, BAN F***ING blind video links.

Gimme a break. By looking at the transcript I mangled, people can decide WITHOUT CLICKING THE MONEY LINK on YT.

No good goes unpunished these days, it seems.

I'll go back to Hacker News the rest of the day (between useful items done)

I didn't see you rec' the urgent Indivisible request to call and email senators to stop the DHS funding bill.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100220968975

Nobody gets to gripe about AI IN CONCENTRATION CAMP.

Ciao!

BluesRunTheGame

(1,947 posts)
20. It took me about 15 seconds to determine it was slop.
Sun Jan 25, 2026, 05:12 PM
6 hrs ago

5 seconds of the op video- click through to the channel- click on videos- choose any random video. Obvious slop.

highplainsdem

(60,516 posts)
22. They are pretty obvious, but I like to check out the channel a bit more to show more reasons it's obviously
Sun Jan 25, 2026, 05:18 PM
5 hrs ago

AI. And that channel is even misogynistic, as I pointed out in reply 15.

BluesRunTheGame

(1,947 posts)
23. I've recently stumbled onto to content where it isn't immediately obvious.
Sun Jan 25, 2026, 05:32 PM
5 hrs ago

The other day I was 3 minutes into a video before it started feeling “off”. The narrator looked and sounded pretty natural. This stuff is getting scary.

highplainsdem

(60,516 posts)
26. That's why I check for credentials (with AI there won't be any or they won't be real) and how recent the
Sun Jan 25, 2026, 05:42 PM
5 hrs ago

videos are, and how frequent. These channels often poach ideas from other slop channels, too, in which case topics will look familiar. AI art is usually a giveaway, especially with constantly changing styles of art. Sometimes they'll use an assortment of AI voices. And the really sloppy ones will have plenty of misspellings, and AI glitches in the slop artwork.

usonian

(23,829 posts)
25. I didn't even look at the video. Copied the link and got the transcript in order to skim.
Sun Jan 25, 2026, 05:41 PM
5 hrs ago

Looks like I transcribed my last video for DU.

And I'll delete the GD thing.

Nice action we're all taking today.

Meet you in the concentration camp.

usonian

(23,829 posts)
24. I didn't even look at the video. Copied the link and got the transcript in order to skim.
Sun Jan 25, 2026, 05:40 PM
5 hrs ago

highplainsdem

(60,516 posts)
21. You can tell it's slop looking at the channel. AI art, often in different styles. Recently created channel
Sun Jan 25, 2026, 05:16 PM
5 hrs ago

with lots of videos. Lots of different and often.weird topics. No credentials for any expertise in the subjects.

A transcript won't show if it's AI.

I wish AI videos could be banned here, but it isn't my board, and there's no automated system to block AI videos before they're posted.

All I can do is check out what looks like AI slop when I see it here.

I didn't see you rec' the urgent Indivisible request to call and email senators to stop the DHS funding bill.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100220968975


I have now - gave it the 5th rec it needed to reach the Greatest page. Hadn't seen it earlier. This isn't the only place I post, and I can't spot every thread posted here.

Especially today, when I spent a long, long time reading every word of a paper on technofascism, before posting it here: https://www.democraticunderground.com/100220969186

meadowlander

(5,103 posts)
11. I do think in some cases that neurodiversity can be a double-edged sword.
Sun Jan 25, 2026, 02:24 PM
8 hrs ago

I'll qualify this massively by saying obviously not every stupid person you meet is neurodiverse and not every neurodiverse person is stupid.

But if you're looking at the specific question of how someone who is very accomplished and bright in one field can hold views that are almost mind-meltingly stupid in another, this is a not uncommon autistic trait. It's like your brain invests all of its energy in one field and doesn't bother with others - like Sherlock Holmes being able to identify every kind of mud in London but not knowing or caring that the earth rotates around the sun.

This seems to me to be one of Elon Musk's issues and maybe Ben Carson as well.

The other potential explanation is that autistic peoples' brains are wired and hypercharged to find connections. This might serve them well in certain types of careers but then they can't turn that off when they go home at night and start deep diving into conspiracy theories on the internet. They tend to be more socially isolated as well and to lack access to feedback from friends and family when they start falling down a rabbit hole.

Other characteristics of this style of thinking besides hyperfocus include black and white thinking, focus on details while struggling to see the big picture, and a tendency to ruminate on repetitive thoughts without being able to break out of them. We're seeing more and more of this in the wider culture as we all adapt to new technologies being largely developed by autistic people.

And being so accomplished in one area feeds your ego and makes you overconfident and prone to assume that your genius will extend to every field and not just the one you've been hyperfocused on for years.

So it makes sense to me how autistic people or people with an autistic thinking and/or relational style can fit this pattern.

highplainsdem

(60,516 posts)
15. Please don't post AI slop, which is what that channel is. It appears to be entirely generated by AI, and
Sun Jan 25, 2026, 04:14 PM
6 hrs ago

could be from a foreign content farm, or from a cynical individual trying to monetize their use of unethical, illegally-trained AI tools. They're even peddling merch on Amazon.

Everything on that channel is just AI clickbait, from "If You Hate Being Wrong, You Probably Have These 7 Traits" to "This Video Only Appears When You Are Ready To Wake Up" to "The Truth Behind the Man Women Desire — But Can Never Confess."

Pure slop. Please delete it. It's unlikely whoever has that channel has any expertise. If they did, they wouldn't be setting up AI slop channels.

Whoever has it is also a.misogynist, or hoping to appeal to misogynists with titles like these:
The Brutal Truth About Female Nature That Men Ignore
Why Your Mother Is the Root of Your Weakness
The Dark Art of Controlling Her Mind
She Programmed Your Mind Before You Ever Had a Choice

FullySupportDems

(417 posts)
28. Smart people can believe stupid things, frequently for emotional reasons
Sun Jan 25, 2026, 07:10 PM
4 hrs ago

Last edited Sun Jan 25, 2026, 10:30 PM - Edit history (1)

That's how I see it, when brilliant people are bigots, as an example. Smart people can convince themselves of stupid things. And calling them stupid has no effect, because they know they aren't stupid, with degrees and test scores to prove it, so it bounces off them.

Also, a smart person is not necessarily a good person. Or honest.

Adding later:
Of course now reading that was AI imagination, I feel stupid. It feels like that's full circle.

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