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Vance asserting federal agents have 'absolute immunity from prosecution,' has greenlighted their murderous behavior.
Vice President Vance asserting immediately after ICE agent Jonathan Ross executed Renee Good, that federal agents are are protected by "absolute immunity" from state prosecution, while, at the same time, his administration was signaling they weren't even going to investigate the killing of an American citizen by her government, created a permission structure which not only neglected to make any effort to ensure that it didn't happen again, but exacerbated the conditions which led to the shootings by declaring peaceful protestors 'terrorists' whose constitutionally-protected conduct observing and recording their government's public actions allegedly presented a threat to the armored and armed agents themselves.
Individuals in working in immigration control have been armed and directed by the chief law enforcement officer in the nation to conduct warfare in communities with complete disregard for the safety and lives of the people who live, work, and reside there, up to outright murder of citizens with effective impunity.
And those Trump officials and others responsible in the administration are making similar claims that assume the victims of their violence have no recourse, and are themselves responsible for their demise at the hands of an inviolable government.
Gregory Bovino, the U.S. Border Patrol Commander-at-Large, outright blamed the victim in the execution-style killing involving Alex Pretti, a 37-year-old ICU nurse, stating, "The victims are the Border Patrol agents,"and that Mr. Pretti had "put himself in that situation"by just being there.
He went even further to speculate, all the while refusing to answer questions about the videos we all are viewing, claiming agents had actually prevented Mr. Pretti from 'shooting law enforcement' by taking away his legally-possessed gun before shooting him seconds later, firing at least 11 shots.
Notwithstanding that the police say Mr. Pretti was legally entitled to carry a gun, which several sworn depositions just filed in court say he never pulled out or brandished, Bovino has conjured up a narrative without presenting any proof that the man his agents shot, the ICU nurse, wasn't there to help people as he is seen helping a woman they pushed to the ground before they pepper sprayed them both in the face, but claims the mere presence of his weapon on his person was proof of intent for whatever chickenshit threat to his armored and armed agents he can think up right quick.
That was what Bovino was claiming on the teevee news today, that his unfounded and outrageous suggestions that Alex Pretti may have been planning to shoot law enforcement officers was evident to him because this private citizen was there with a gun.
Kyle Rittenhouse, anyone....?
You cannot bring a firearm, loaded, with multiple magazines to any sort of protest that you want. Its that simple. You dont have that right to break the law and incite violence, he said.
Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent also erroneously stated that you cant bring a gun to a protest. Bessent trampled over host Jonathan Karls assertion that all Americans have a right to bear arms during a stop by ABCs This Week.
https://www.salon.com/2026/01/25/those-rights-dont-count-bovino-says-pretti-forfeited-2nd-amendment-rights-in-fatal-shooting/
180 Capitol riot perps who Trump ultimately pardoned were charged with entering a restricted area with weapons raging from firearms, tasers and knives, according to the U.S. Attorney.
But this administration is insisting that merely showing up to protest THEM with a legally concealed gun, just possessing it should be met with deadly force.
Never mind the principles their ilk has claimed to hold for decades and endless political cycles about their right and responsibility to be armed at all times against perceived threats, not the least of those expressed being their fear of an oppressive government and their ability to defend against it with their guns.
It's a deliberate permission structure established and promulgated by very same president who unleashed mobs of rabid supporters on the U.S. Capitol to maim and murder police and elected officials in an attempt to stop the certification of votes in our election in a scheme, as Jack Smith testified, that was tied to Trump's efforts to get other public officials to replace electors and change votes to keep himself in office after he lost.
None of this happens without the presidency acquiescing to it, and all of the officials and agents involved are culpable in the crimes committed because of their participation in this coverup as each and every top official involved has lied about their agency's and agent's actions; explaining violence against Americans away by declaring anyone in their way a 'terrorist' or some conjured threat to them; often citing the slightest interference they claim with their politicized, mass deportation actions as essentially a capital offense.
Alex Pretti, and really Renee Good before him, were not only victims of federal government execution-style killings, they were the victims of rhetoric from the president and his agents who has been proclaiming in statements and actual official documents that Americans protesting and resisting their nazi-style deportations are subjects of terrorist organizations that they've invented out of thin air, like their opportunistic claims that demonstrators are 'antifa' and assertions that they are under the influence or control of 'leftist ideologies' which they fantastically liken to terrorists.
Trump said that he was "designating" the movement as a terrorist organization. "I will also be strongly recommending that those funding ANTIFA be thoroughly investigated in accordance with the highest legal standards and practices," Trump wrote on Truth Social.
And here's the thing for republicans and others who think they're safe because they're not 'antifa' or 'leftist' and won't be bothered by this administration. Trump's goons aren't parsing social media posts before attacking people in this country, they're inventing these labels to define ANYONE standing against them, in the streets or anywhere else we seek to resist their threatening, terrorizing rule.
Every acquiescence is deliberate permission for their agents to operate with prejudice against the people they encounter as they conduct their deportations; with disregard for their safety and lives, up to outright killing them and literally driving away and leaving them there.
The permission structure being openly established by the presidency, and dictated down to his agents by his and his agency heads' public responses to these deadly immigration control related killings and other abuses, is clear evidence of the commission of crimes up to murder by their agents, and a product of a deliberate coverup of criminality by their superiors.
This isn't just about the terror and horror of our own government's agents assaulting us on the streets; in our homes, in churches; in stores; in courthouses; it's the license to kill that this administration has conferred upon their agents of terror through their acquiescence to outright murder; state executions of essentially dissidents which we've all witnessed with our own eyes.
It's the impunity in which these masked, armoured and armed federal agents are waging war against our communities which has alarmed Americans against these violent and now deadly political exercises.
It's clear this isn't just about their ethnic-cleansing anymore, as their mass deportation push has proven to be just a stalking horse for this opportunistic fascism perpetrated against all Americans.
Irish_Dem
(80,221 posts)They keep thinking up new ways to do it.
bigtree
(93,567 posts)...we saw that in the last Trump administration.
Their disregard and contempt for humanity really shouldn't surprise anyone who's been watching what they do to the brown-skinned people who they're ethnically cleansing.
Irish_Dem
(80,221 posts)Trump loved killing one million people during covid.
He loves that RFK Jr is killing Americans.
bigtree
(93,567 posts)...has revealed itself to be nothing less than an attempted takeover of America, using the authority many voters gave them intending for the government to exercise their antipathies against brown-skinned people.
Covid should have been a wake up call that Trump doesn't care how many of us die. Now it's actually as if he's exercising revenge on Americans for daring to hold him accountable for his crimes.