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Ivana knew. She told us. He kept a book of Hitler's speeches on his nightstand.
sop
(17,758 posts)Kid Berwyn
(23,442 posts)Read his own words on NAZI law
The Nazi Jurist Who Haunts Our Broken Politics
A contempt for compromise. An expansive vision of executive power. Both owe much to Carl Schmitt.
by Jennifer Szalai
The New York Times, July 13, 2024, updated July 15, 2024
It was a curious line, not just for what it said, but also because of who was saying it. In an interview last month with the New York Times Opinion columnist Ross Douthat, J.D. Vance, the Republican senator from Ohio who is vying to be Donald Trumps running mate, declared: The thing that I kept thinking about liberalism in 2019 and 2020 is that these guys have all read Carl Schmitt theres no law, theres just power. And the goal here is to get back in power.
Vance was referring to the political theorist and Nazi jurist who provided much of the intellectual ballast for the Third Reich. Schmitt despised liberalism. Yet according to Vance, liberals are in thrall to this adamantly illiberal thinker, a man who extolled the dictatorial use of executive power to defeat ones enemies.
That, at least, is what I think Vance was saying. His examples of Schmittian liberalism involved not jackboot autocracy but political correctness an absolutely tyrannical force that meant there was nothing you were allowed to say.
In the rest of the interview, Vance seemed to have few qualms about wielding power to defeat enemies, as long as conservatives were the ones doing it. Asked about the 2020 election and the Jan. 6 attack on the Capitol, Vance defended Trump (who, until he was injured by a gunman at a rally on Saturday, has talked incessantly about crushing his enemies). I think that challenging elections and questioning the legitimacy of elections is actually part of the democratic process, Vance said. When they say, Hes threatening the foundation of American society, I cant help but roll my eyes.
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GOP moneybaggers Thiel and Musk are NAZIs, too.
GreenWave
(12,421 posts)PJMcK
(24,842 posts)Trump has always been a skeevy skank, a crooked criminal, a loquacious liar and rapacious rapist. As a New Yorker, I've had to endure his terrible existence since the 1970s. I will never understand why anyone would admire or follow this lowlife idiot.
That he has been elected twice in spite of all the facts about him that we know says volumes about far too many people who call themselves "Americans." With fellow citizens like these Trump supporters I cannot endure living among them. I've lost friends and family members because of their support for this cancerous cretin.
Even if Trump were to leave the stage this afternoon, his followers who believe he has the right answers for our country will still be here. It's disgusting and pathetic.
JCMach1
(29,125 posts)A mother f'ing NAZI
617Blue
(2,196 posts)bluestarone
(21,484 posts)Remember what he said? People just vote for ME, this time and you will never have to again.
OGBuzz
(53 posts)1. Did Ivana Trump die just weeks before her confidentiality agreement with Donald Trump was scheduled to expire.
2. Did Marla Maples tell a mother of a 13 year old girl at a Trump promoted teen fashion show to 'keep your daughter away from these men, especially my husband'.
blue_jay
(193 posts)very hard to find a reference for this but have a memory of those two books being what Ivana referenced on his nightstand. If my memory is accurate, it kind of explains him well.