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kentuck

(115,205 posts)
Tue Jan 27, 2026, 10:05 AM 5 hrs ago

I don't accept the idea of "absolute immunity"...

For no one.

Not the president. Not agents of ICE. Not the Supreme Court.

It is a concept foreign to anything I have ever believed.

It is contrary to everything in western law. It is contrary to the Magna Carta that King John signed.

Those that commit crimes should be held accountable. If the Supreme Court says otherwise, they are illegitimate and must be replaced.

Just my opinion.

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rampartd

(4,050 posts)
1. originalist? textualist? biblical?
Tue Jan 27, 2026, 10:10 AM
5 hrs ago

i don't see "immunity" anywhere.

and just because they don't believe in the hague doesn't mean guys like milosevich and duterte have any kind of immunity, why trump or his minions?

kentuck

(115,205 posts)
3. No one should accept the theory.
Tue Jan 27, 2026, 10:20 AM
5 hrs ago

It should be mocked by whomever says it.

Democrats should continue to push for justice and accountability and never accept that anyone is above the law.

kentuck

(115,205 posts)
7. Can you think of an example?
Tue Jan 27, 2026, 10:31 AM
5 hrs ago

In war, killing is usually overlooked, unless it is civilians that are killed.

kentuck

(115,205 posts)
11. Only if they conspired with the person to kill someone...
Tue Jan 27, 2026, 10:51 AM
4 hrs ago

Otherwise they could be voted out of office or impeached. People have to hold everyone accountable.

Ping Tung

(4,170 posts)
4. "The object of civil society is justice, not truth, virtue, wealth, knowledge, glory or power.
Tue Jan 27, 2026, 10:22 AM
5 hrs ago
“The object of civil society is justice, not truth, virtue, wealth, knowledge, glory or power. Justice is followed by equality and liberty.” Lord Acton

Footnote: All of the above is , of course, subjective and relative.

kentuck

(115,205 posts)
5. Perhaps that is why "Justice" is the first bullet point in our Preamble to our Constitution?
Tue Jan 27, 2026, 10:25 AM
5 hrs ago

"We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America."

Ping Tung

(4,170 posts)
10. I agree with Acton and the founders. The results are mixed.
Tue Jan 27, 2026, 10:50 AM
4 hrs ago

i.e. Trump's stacked Supreme Court which provides obvious examples to injustice.

wiggs

(8,716 posts)
13. Thing is, if TSF or goons commit a crime either TSFs own justice dept has to investigate and indict (not
Tue Jan 27, 2026, 11:16 AM
4 hrs ago

likely) or the victim(s) have to sue with their own money, going up against the full force and resources of the fed govt (our money).

The idea of immunity is highly flawed any way you look at it

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