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surfered

(12,094 posts)
Tue Jan 27, 2026, 11:42 AM 3 hrs ago

It's apparent from the videos of the Pretti and Good shootings as well as other ICE actions,

…that many of the agents hired do not possess the qualities necessary for the job. They are undisciplined, not properly trained and act with impunity.

These are all failings of leadership by Miller, Noem, and Homan and they need to go.

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It's apparent from the videos of the Pretti and Good shootings as well as other ICE actions, (Original Post) surfered 3 hrs ago OP
Most, if not all do not have an acceptable temperament for any position of authority out in public Attilatheblond 3 hrs ago #1
Noem must be fired Johonny 3 hrs ago #2
What job? Cirsium 2 hrs ago #3
It's a feature, not a bug to the administration themaguffin 2 hrs ago #4
Uncover their faces Johnny2X2X 2 hrs ago #5
I don't think so iemanja 2 hrs ago #6
Most can't pass background checks. Blue Full Moon 1 hr ago #7
No vetting, little training, no supervision, lots of guns and armor, and an arrogant, in your face, attitude. patphil 1 hr ago #8

Attilatheblond

(8,453 posts)
1. Most, if not all do not have an acceptable temperament for any position of authority out in public
Tue Jan 27, 2026, 11:49 AM
3 hrs ago

Most HR professionals wouldn't hire them as crossing guards in a small city.

Whole lotta hot heads who haven't addressed the roots of their anger issues. It's like they were hired BECAUSE they have the wrong basic temperament for the job. Trump gets off on people being hurt so he wants people who are violent and don't think.

edited for typo

Cirsium

(3,504 posts)
3. What job?
Tue Jan 27, 2026, 12:34 PM
2 hrs ago

What exactly is the job for which they are unqualified? Terrorizing innocent people may be the only job for which many of them are qualified.

ICE brutality is not the result of poor training.

Johnny2X2X

(23,759 posts)
5. Uncover their faces
Tue Jan 27, 2026, 12:36 PM
2 hrs ago

I think you'd see different behavior if they weren't the secret police.

You can pick 1, a free country or a country with a secret police. You can't have both.

iemanja

(57,530 posts)
6. I don't think so
Tue Jan 27, 2026, 12:38 PM
2 hrs ago

Both of the shooters in the murder cases had been in their respective services for a long time. We don't know the identity of Pretti's killer, but we know the unit was an experienced one. They killed because they knew they could get away with it.

Blue Full Moon

(3,243 posts)
7. Most can't pass background checks.
Tue Jan 27, 2026, 02:28 PM
1 hr ago

Lots of domestic violence and pedophiles in ICE. Which makes me wonder about them stealing children. How many people have they killed on the side? How many people have they raped? I suspect that Ross is a serial killer. He was making a trophy video.

patphil

(8,783 posts)
8. No vetting, little training, no supervision, lots of guns and armor, and an arrogant, in your face, attitude.
Tue Jan 27, 2026, 02:30 PM
1 hr ago

They're doing the job they were hired to do, and I'm sure Trump approves of their actions.
I would be surprised if Noem was fired...maybe Homan will be offered up as a sacrificial lamb, but that's about it.

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