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bigtree

(93,602 posts)
Tue Jan 27, 2026, 02:49 PM 18 hrs ago

I have to wonder who all of this messaging from Democrats that people are calling for is meant to influence

...especially at this point in our history when the choice between parties couldn't be clearer.

It's not just that our Democratic party dependably produces for the country what the republican party is now wantonly and self-interestedly tearing down.

It's that the republican opposition which has long revealed itself as a grifting danger to even the interests they say they care about is now either trying to own you or kill you.

I've been fighting for decades rally support for life and death issues involving law enforcement abuses against black communities from both republican and Democratic interests. No one needs to remind me of the need for advocacy.

What has always been lacking are people willing to listen which may be a consequence of their personal lives never intersecting with any of the terror, violence, and injustice that so many in this country have suffered at the hands of the government.

Indeed, this very crisis where Americans are being executed in the streets by federal agents was enabled by the acquiescence of so many in each party, and in so many quarters of America, to the racism and xenophobia that has compelled the vindictive and antagonistic portrayals of immigrants, even undocumented individuals, who without question contribute more socially and even economically to America than they take from us.

Did we forget that the adjunct to the Trump deportation scheme is to claim their militarization is to control mostly black communities under the pretext of fighting crime?

That dangerous escalation of the military into our communities doesn't just impact black Americans, but the acquiescence to it all began with a surrender to the notion in the first place with both parties voting for militarizing police forces, then having to try and claw it all back when the communities exploded in protest over wanton killings of unarmed black youth in the streets by police forces provoking them and targeting them as if in a war.

How many in America who maybe didn't resemble or relate to people affected by the violence just sit on their hands assuming it was someone else other than them at risk?

That's where I am, and I'm wondering if folks get this. This movement against government murder that looks to be emerging isn't something new, except in the race and ethnicity of the victims we're defending, and I have a hard time believing that Americans wouldn't just turn away if it was a brown-skinned person.

I think it's important and welcome that so many are waking up to the realization that their government is conspiring against and threatening Americans lives and livelihoods. But I can't pretend they haven't already been told this, repeatedly until we were exhausted.

We've never stopped telling them.

They didn't want to listen, but, perhaps they'll listen now.

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I have to wonder who all of this messaging from Democrats that people are calling for is meant to influence (Original Post) bigtree 18 hrs ago OP
People are looking for easy answers Keepthesoulalive 18 hrs ago #1
well, they should have a more receptive audience right now bigtree 18 hrs ago #4
I get you Keepthesoulalive 18 hrs ago #5
activism in issues of POC is something I do. Tetrachloride 18 hrs ago #2
K&R mcar 18 hrs ago #3
DNC Chair Martin should release the 2024 report leftstreet 18 hrs ago #6
Waiting for the message that everything is about economic class. But it isn't. betsuni 18 hrs ago #7
The Democratic messaging requires thought. That's a tough sell right now Whyisthisstillclose 17 hrs ago #8

Keepthesoulalive

(2,163 posts)
1. People are looking for easy answers
Tue Jan 27, 2026, 02:54 PM
18 hrs ago

They should message better as opposed to boycotts, protesting, talking to neighbors and getting them to vote, go on different platforms to push back on misinformation and more than anything else get over themselves and vote for what is best for America and the world.

bigtree

(93,602 posts)
4. well, they should have a more receptive audience right now
Tue Jan 27, 2026, 02:58 PM
18 hrs ago

...I would think.

I've never personally had a problem with Democratic messaging, other than their reflexive need to demonstrate some immigration concern which is always exploited into a degredation of someone's civil liberties in this country.

But I do understand the surface debate that we employ ti attract voters is worrying to some. I just think it's a matter of who is listening, not so much that we haven't been saying enough.

That's my own experience, as I tried to explain above.

Keepthesoulalive

(2,163 posts)
5. I get you
Tue Jan 27, 2026, 03:10 PM
18 hrs ago

I went to the alternate DU site that popped up to oppose Hillary and they were still pissed at democrats during the Biden administration and the only person left during the last election said you are not going to guilt me into voting for Kamala. There is no message that will get through to that selfish egotistical drama queen and they were everywhere trying to find an excuse not to vote for the biracial candidate. They didn’t think they would feel the lash, oops they were wrong.

Tetrachloride

(9,444 posts)
2. activism in issues of POC is something I do.
Tue Jan 27, 2026, 02:56 PM
18 hrs ago

Don't know what other people around me think in detail.

leftstreet

(39,249 posts)
6. DNC Chair Martin should release the 2024 report
Tue Jan 27, 2026, 03:16 PM
18 hrs ago

I know, I know

It's just all this confusion about messaging is being discussed in a vacuum. What's missing is an analysis of WHY 6+ million reliably Democratic base voters turned out for Biden, but not for Harris.

Was it messaging?
Was it fraud?
Did everyone have a bad hair day?

betsuni

(28,839 posts)
7. Waiting for the message that everything is about economic class. But it isn't.
Tue Jan 27, 2026, 03:30 PM
18 hrs ago

The message sent is not understood. That's my little theory.

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