There's no amount of training that can instill basic humanity in thugs who willingly mistreat women, children, &old men

[Swede]

I've seen more folks saying that's where Oath Keepers and Proud Boys are now.

New in PN: 'Abolish ICE' is imperative

"There's no amount of training that can instill basic humanity in thugs who willingly mistreat women, children, and old men. ICE agents reportedly dined at a Mexican restaurant in MN before arresting employees. How will 'training' fix that level of depravity?"

— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar.com) 2026-01-29T12:47:21.974Z

[WhiskeyGrinder]

1. Conversely, no amount of compassionate people working within a cruel system can reform it. Abolish it all.

[AZProgressive]

2. Last poll I saw

A plurality supports abolishing ICE including self-described moderates as well as Independents.

ICE is about 20 years old so it is very young for something that already needs to be "reformed". I support abolishing it and always have since 2018 but even more so since the Trump administration.

Found the poll:

Today more Americans support than oppose abolishing ICE (YouGov)

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Opposition to ICE has grown in January

More Americans support than oppose abolishing ICE (46% vs. 41%). This marks a slight increase from earlier this month, when three YouGov polls found that the share of Americans who supported eliminating ICE as a federal agency was roughly equal to the share who opposed it: 46% to 43% in one poll, 42% vs. 45% in another, and 45% vs. 45% in a third.

Democrats overwhelmingly support eliminating ICE (76% vs. 15%), as do nearly half of Independents (47% vs. 35%). Most Republicans (73%) continue to oppose abolishing ICE. Only 19% of Republicans support eliminating the agency, but that's a higher level than in any of the polls from earlier this month.

https://today.yougov.com/politics/articles/53939-more-americans-support-than-oppose-abolishing-ice-immigration-minneapolis-shooting-poll