How do we communicate nationally

[babylonsister]

that this whole ICE fiasco has to do with greed? 'Follow the money' seems like it would work here, too. I know this pisses me off, and look no further if anyone needs a reason why this admin is tearing this country apart. I also wonder who in Congress might be benefitting from looking the other way?

ICE agents are supposedly given a quota of people to round up. Why? To fill the beds/cells/population at privately owned prisons, and I understand the owners of these facilities are making bank in a big way. It no longer seems important who is rounded up, immigrant or US citizen, as long as they endeavor to make that all-important quota.

Edit to add: emphasis could and should be placed on what a terrible job these prisons are doing treating their prisoners compassionately.

Then there currently are people in this admin scouting places in the US for many additional prisons, though that effort is being met with a lot of pushback from locals aware of their intentions.

I do wonder what kind of kickback the orange yam negotiated, because it's very easy to believe he did. It's ALL about money.

Here's what info AI provided when I googled:

Private prison corporations, primarily CoreCivic and the
GEO Group, generate significant revenue—often over $1 billion combined annually—through ICE detention contracts. These firms benefit from high daily detainee rates, often exceeding $90 per person, with profits driven by expanded detention capacity, federal border policies, and, increasingly, electronic monitoring of immigrants.

Key Findings on Private Prisons and Immigrant Profits:

Massive Revenue Generation: In 2022, GEO Group made $1.05 billion and CoreCivic made $552.2 million from ICE contracts.

Expansion & Incentives: Private firms actively lobby for stricter immigration policies and benefit from increased detention capacity to drive up revenue.

Contractual Growth: GEO Group CEO Rodolfo Zoley announced in 2025 that the company sees "unprecedented growth opportunities" to assist with increased detention and GPS tracking.

Electronic Monitoring: The GEO Group's subsidiary, BI Inc., runs a tracking program for approximately 183,000 individuals, a lucrative part of the immigrant detention business.

Concerns over Quality: Despite high profits, these facilities face, or have faced, criticisms regarding poor conditions, including inadequate medical care, food, and high staff turnover.

Future Projections: Reports from 2025 indicate that the private detention industry is expanding, with potential for new contracts worth billions as detention capacity increases.

[TommyT139]

1. Fuck AI.

Your post was interesting right up until then. Maybe the topic will come up again sometime.

[babylonsister]

4. Or maybe instead of grousing about AI, you could provide

links you deem pertinent. They're definitely there but I picked this because all the facts were in one place and I am in the middle of a project so didn't have the time to list them. You seem to have time, have at it.

[TommyT139]

9. Actually no.

I do wish that people who post slop would indicate that earlier on, though, to not waste time.

[Fiendish Thingy]

2. Relying on AI is dangerous to critical thinking skills

Yes, there is lots of money to be made, and that certainly is a factor, but the policy is being driven primarily by Stephen Miller’s Sado-erotic need to inflict cruelty on other humans.

Trump has admitted as much, saying if Miller had his way, there only be 100 million people left in the US.

That is clearly not a profit friendly business model in the long run.

While there are certainly profiteers ready to make millions at this opportunity, they wouldn’t have the opportunity if it weren’t for the cruelty and hatred driving it all.

[babylonsister]

8. FTR, I do not 'rely' on AI.

In this case I did because I am pressed for time.

[Fiendish Thingy]

10. AI is indeed a time saver, but at what cost?

AI saves the user time from having to sift through various sources, providing easily digestible information, without the burden of evaluating the sources or testing the assertions, or separating propaganda and spin from facts.

AI spoon feeds the user answers, regardless of whether the answers are factual, complete or contextual. No thinking required.

Based on the data dump AI provided you, you drew the conclusion that Trump’s immigration policy was “ALL about the money”, but I’m guessing you had drawn that conclusion before you asked AI for information.

Was your search phrased along the lines of “how much money did private companies make on immigrant detention?” If so, that biases the answers, limiting the info to that financial data.

A more complete, but more complex question would have been phrased “is Trump’s immigration policy driven more by the opportunities for lucrative government contracts, or by racism and sadistic cruelty?”

I shudder to think how AI would handle that question.

That’s why we must not use AI as a substitute for critical thinking, no matter how convenient it is.

[Hey Joe]

3. It's a safe bet that anything this administration

is involved in is motivated by profiteering and grift. I have seen little evidence that there is much interest in any action that does not
involve greed.

[leftstreet]

5. Fuck "communication." Time for politicians to LISTEN

It's not hard to read the polls. People don't seem too happy right now

[babylonsister]

11. I'd argue the hordes in Minneapolis protesting

ICE effected more change than any politician. I also bet there are a load of people who are not aware that prisons are run for profit, there's quotas, etc. Educating those people seems like a no-brainer to me.

[leftstreet]

13. You're not wrong

In a way it's stomach-churning though. On the streets and emailing our reps because we see human suffering vs engaging in those same activities because "it's costing us money!"

There's no good answer

[Iggo]

6. Gestapo Murder Bad. (n/t)

[usonian]

7. Three things.

[Initech]

12. It's not just greed, it's also intmidation.

Hell just this morning I saw professional bully Tom Homan on Fox News (of course ) saying that we need to "tone down the hateful rhetoric". Uh yeah... that's all you guys and that worthless excuse of a man that you dare to call "president". So why don't you try it first?