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Even when we have leverage, we don't.
FUCK'S SAKE.
AllyCat
(18,630 posts)JBTaurus83
(958 posts)pinkstarburst
(1,886 posts)Prairie Gates
(7,463 posts)Here's the positive way to spin it:
Is that the GOP really, really, really didn't want DHS split into a separate bill, and now the Dems have massive leverage on DHS bill to force changes, since there will be no downside in terms of forcing another shutdown. They also get a two week stopgap rather than a four week stopgap. The shorter stopgap means that the current political disgust with DHS informs the voting, while four weeks lets something else invade the news cycle.
Still, giving these fascisti money for even two weeks seems a fucking gut punch, especially for the brave people of Minneapolis out there at the barricades.
I suspect that there's an unstated condition as well: with DHS funding on the table, Noem has to go. Period. I'll bet she's out by Tuesday if the House passes this.
pinkstarburst
(1,886 posts)W_HAMILTON
(10,193 posts)The whole reason for this potential government shutdown isn't even included in the main funding of this deal, and people are STILL upset?
Helping the people that were hurt by the last government shutdown and were the reason why the last shutdown ended, I don't see that as a bad thing. Especially when the main thing we would be shutting down the government for is being isolated and split off into a separate negotiation and just being funded for two weeks (i.e., damn near nothing when it comes to matters like these) while negotiations continue.
It should be noted that a government shutdown DOESN'T EVEN STOP ICE BECAUSE THEY ARE DEEMED ESSENTIAL WORKERS AND WILL CONTINUE TO TERRORIZE OUR CITIES REGARDLESS.
Grim Chieftain
(1,391 posts)they are enabling the most corrupt president and administration in this nation's history.
AllyCat
(18,630 posts)And both immediately thought this was a sham deal.