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Chasstev365

(7,316 posts)
Thu Jan 29, 2026, 10:21 PM 3 hrs ago

Why do Senate Democrats think you can "reform" the Gestapo, aka ICE?

You don't reform an unconstitutional paramilitary unit of goons loyal only to Donald Trump

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Why do Senate Democrats think you can "reform" the Gestapo, aka ICE? (Original Post) Chasstev365 3 hrs ago OP
Kicking the can down the road. usonian 3 hrs ago #1
Most are old and remember when you could be friends Tree Lady 3 hrs ago #2
Toxic Positivity Sector 001 2 hrs ago #3
lack of imagination. NewHendoLib 2 hrs ago #4
I am convinced this is about preserving white supremacy. LuvLoogie 2 hrs ago #5
Because ICE existed before Trump EdmondDantes_ 2 hrs ago #6
It's a symptom of national PTSD over 9/11 Uncle Joe 26 min ago #7

Tree Lady

(13,078 posts)
2. Most are old and remember when you could be friends
Thu Jan 29, 2026, 10:40 PM
3 hrs ago

With the other side and still disagree. They think we can go back to fairness and what’s right morally.

Somehow they are not getting how republicans don’t care and are morally bankrupt.

LuvLoogie

(8,615 posts)
5. I am convinced this is about preserving white supremacy.
Thu Jan 29, 2026, 11:06 PM
2 hrs ago

The PTB are making that clear. They wanted trump. They wanted 2025. They want the ethnic cleansing of the U. S.

They have demonized the marginalized and disenfranchised.

And too many Democrats are complicit and outright backstabbing any progress toward a truly egalitarian society. They want to preserve the exploitation of resources and people.

It's disgusting.

EdmondDantes_

(1,468 posts)
6. Because ICE existed before Trump
Thu Jan 29, 2026, 11:15 PM
2 hrs ago

I think it should be abolished but more because of its origins in the post 9/11 national security frenzy that needs to be radically reconsidered.

The current ICE is obviously bad, but Trump would have done this with INS or border patrol or whatever group. ICE itself is a symptom of the far right nationalist authoritarian rather than inherently bad. ICE wasn't acting like this under Obama.

That said, I'd be in favor of every ICE street agent being reviewed after this administration and many of them going on trial.

Uncle Joe

(64,446 posts)
7. It's a symptom of national PTSD over 9/11
Fri Jan 30, 2026, 01:14 AM
26 min ago

For years, virtually no politician could ask for directions to the bathroom without invoking 9/11 in the request.

Thanks for the thread Chasstev

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