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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWhy do Senate Democrats think you can "reform" the Gestapo, aka ICE?
You don't reform an unconstitutional paramilitary unit of goons loyal only to Donald Trump
usonian
(23,938 posts)
Tree Lady
(13,078 posts)With the other side and still disagree. They think we can go back to fairness and whats right morally.
Somehow they are not getting how republicans dont care and are morally bankrupt.
Sector 001
(225 posts)NewHendoLib
(61,655 posts)LuvLoogie
(8,615 posts)The PTB are making that clear. They wanted trump. They wanted 2025. They want the ethnic cleansing of the U. S.
They have demonized the marginalized and disenfranchised.
And too many Democrats are complicit and outright backstabbing any progress toward a truly egalitarian society. They want to preserve the exploitation of resources and people.
It's disgusting.
EdmondDantes_
(1,468 posts)I think it should be abolished but more because of its origins in the post 9/11 national security frenzy that needs to be radically reconsidered.
The current ICE is obviously bad, but Trump would have done this with INS or border patrol or whatever group. ICE itself is a symptom of the far right nationalist authoritarian rather than inherently bad. ICE wasn't acting like this under Obama.
That said, I'd be in favor of every ICE street agent being reviewed after this administration and many of them going on trial.
Uncle Joe
(64,446 posts)For years, virtually no politician could ask for directions to the bathroom without invoking 9/11 in the request.
Thanks for the thread Chasstev