Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News Editorials & Other Articles General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

Miles Archer

(22,146 posts)
Sat Jan 31, 2026, 01:28 PM 18 hrs ago

This "raped a 13 year old and then threatened to "disappear" her and have her family killed" thing keeps getting worse

I guess that among the many questions I have about this, the one that tops my list is "What is it about Trump that would make one say "OH, he'd NEVER do that," having bragged about grabbing women by the p*ssy and "anything you want" and "getting away with it because he's a star?" Or the fact that he was found, in court, to be an ADJUDICATED RAPIST who RAPED E Jean Carroll?"

Under penalty of perjury, a witness told the FBI back in 2016 that they had “personally witnessed” President Donald Trump threaten to “disappear” a girl and have her entire family killed, according to a document released by the Justice Department on Friday.

Released as part of the DOJ’s publication of around 3.5 million files on Jeffrey Epstein, the FBI tip was submitted by an individual using the pseudonym “Tiffany Doe,” and includes details of an alleged threat Trump made to a plaintiff in a lawsuit.

“I personally witnessed Defendant Trump telling Plaintiff that she shouldn’t ever say anything if she didn’t want to disappear like the 12-year-old female [redacted], and that he was capable of having her whole family killed,” the FBI tip reads, signed under penalty of perjury on June 18, 2016.

The plaintiff claimed to have been employed by Epstein from 1990 to 2000, and told the FBI that she was personally threatened by Epstein in a similar manner to the way she alleged Trump had threatened the unknown plaintiff in the unknown lawsuit.

https://www.rawstory.com/trump-epstein-2675065475/
35 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
This "raped a 13 year old and then threatened to "disappear" her and have her family killed" thing keeps getting worse (Original Post) Miles Archer 18 hrs ago OP
"Trump telling Plaintiff that she shouldn't ever say anything" CoopersDad 17 hrs ago #1
I will kick this thread up also. Whats more, i will post it on FB and instagram. Trueblue1968 10 hrs ago #22
This is the "Jane Doe/Katie Johnson" video/lawsuit, which was promoted in the runup to Nov 2016 by Never Trumpers AZJonnie 17 hrs ago #2
I sure hope it is not a set up, but it certainly seems to be from what I have read of released documents. cksmithy 16 hrs ago #5
Gloria Allred knows who they are. Scrivener7 15 hrs ago #14
I would bet that she's more familiar with these men (AFTER the fact, I mean, not that her/Lisa did anything wrong!) AZJonnie 13 hrs ago #19
AZ Johnny on the Spot dpibel 9 hrs ago #32
Cadaver Dogs to Trump Golf Courses STAT n/t leftstreet 17 hrs ago #3
Can these dogs smell human remains buried after decades?? Trueblue1968 10 hrs ago #23
and it adds a new cast musette_sf 10 hrs ago #26
Yeah, he's dumb enough to have buried corpses on his own golf courses, no doubt. Dave Bowman 10 hrs ago #27
If morality means nothing to him, the story is true, and he's an open book limited only by his immediate observations. Uncle Joe 16 hrs ago #4
Uncle Joe, Don's a psychopath. littlemissmartypants 15 hrs ago #9
He would never admit to it. He never admits to anything. red dog 1 14 hrs ago #15
Except Nasruddin 10 hrs ago #24
From Epstein files released by DOJ and then hidden again angrychair 16 hrs ago #6
FUCKING MONSTERS! bluestarone 15 hrs ago #10
That has to be the most horrible thing anyone's ever revealed about Trump. I feel unclean just reading it. sop 15 hrs ago #12
To be clear angrychair 15 hrs ago #13
Prior to the election, Fox news claimed that the open border progressoid 6 hrs ago #34
Kick dalton99a 16 hrs ago #7
I hope survivor's and their legal reps start with their list they were compiling. Clearly all redacted by DOJ Evolve Dammit 16 hrs ago #8
The things king piggy already says in public make this completely plausible. Grokenstein 15 hrs ago #11
Who else besides Ivana is buried at the pedophile's golf course? Blue Owl 14 hrs ago #16
he has boats and airplanes and plenty of ocean rampartd 12 hrs ago #20
Skepticism warranted Nasruddin 10 hrs ago #25
Katie Johnson's Full Testimony of 2/11/16 red dog 1 14 hrs ago #17
Beginning at about the 13:00 mark Tiffany Doe describes a sexual role playing incident Uncle Joe 13 hrs ago #18
These serious federal allegations warrant an investigation. LetMyPeopleVote 12 hrs ago #21
Our president is a monster protected by monsters. Martin68 9 hrs ago #28
And this FUCKING PEDOPHILE is running "ICE" Blue Owl 9 hrs ago #29
My daughter and I were just talking about the new dump of files. woodsprite 9 hrs ago #30
Knowing everything we already know about Trump, and the things he has bragged about, Jack Valentino 9 hrs ago #31
There must be an FBI investigation into this either in the past, applegrove 8 hrs ago #33
Seems like... 2naSalit 1 hr ago #35

CoopersDad

(3,291 posts)
1. "Trump telling Plaintiff that she shouldn't ever say anything"
Sat Jan 31, 2026, 01:36 PM
17 hrs ago

Just to give this post more attention, K/R.

AZJonnie

(3,092 posts)
2. This is the "Jane Doe/Katie Johnson" video/lawsuit, which was promoted in the runup to Nov 2016 by Never Trumpers
Sat Jan 31, 2026, 02:14 PM
17 hrs ago

Tiffany Doe is Katie Johnson's "witness", so neither the plaintiff nor the lawsuit is "unknown". Well, nobody knows who Katie Johnson or Tiffany Doe actually are IRL, but rawstory's categorization that we don't know what the lawsuit was/who it was from are mistaken.

Nothing about this story is newly released (including Tiffany Doe signing a statement bearing witness to "Katies" claims), it's actually 10 years old. IIRC, a bunch of stuff about this lawsuit was released in the LAST document dump as well, about a month ago.

Its existence will be used against Eric Holder when the GQP House members interview him in their upcoming "Epstein Hearings" (also including the Clintons, Barr, Comey, Mueller, Sessions, Alberto Gonzalez, and Loretta Lynch), mark my words. That's why Bondi releases docs about this case every chance she gets. Holder is going to get up on the stand and say "we found nothing to back up these allegations", and the House monkeys will go "HAH! SEE! Not even the FBI believed Trump did anything wrong!", and then attack him for the DoJ never publicly stating that they'd found the accusations not believable, because he wanted Hillary to win, etc.

This info being released (yet again) is a setup, not meant to hurt Trump at all.

cksmithy

(436 posts)
5. I sure hope it is not a set up, but it certainly seems to be from what I have read of released documents.
Sat Jan 31, 2026, 02:59 PM
16 hrs ago

AZJonnie

(3,092 posts)
19. I would bet that she's more familiar with these men (AFTER the fact, I mean, not that her/Lisa did anything wrong!)
Sat Jan 31, 2026, 05:39 PM
13 hrs ago

Norm Lubow / “Al Taylor” – Reported as the key promoter behind the scenes: he helped orchestrate the initial pseudonymous filing, arranged the February 11, 2016 videotaped testimony, and then shopped that video to media outlets (Gawker, tabloids, etc.), reportedly trying to sell it for up to about $1 million.

Jonathann Launer – The videographer who filmed Johnson’s February 2016 testimony; he was reportedly offered (and in some accounts paid) a stake in any proceeds from selling the tape.​

Steve Baer – A conservative "Never Trump" Illinois donor who sent money to support the effort (wired tens of thousands to Lubow/“Taylor” and Launer), expecting the video and story to surface; later fell out with them when more money was requested.

More about Lubow:

Norm Lubow was a producer on The Jerry Springer Show in the mid‑ to late‑1990s, after first appearing on the show as a guest.

He started out as a frequent guest (often under his “Reverend Bud Green” persona), then became a freelance guest‑booker and eventually a full‑time producer around 1996.

His role included finding and staging “fake” guests, coaching them to create on‑air drama, and (per his own later claims) sometimes arranging women from those bookings to sleep with Springer after tapings.

He says he was fired in 1998 after an ABC 20/20 exposé accused him of scripting and coaching guests, which the show’s executives treated as going too far even for Springer‑style theatrics


My best guess is that Lisa may have been taken in by a con in this case. Worth noting that her involvement was VERY minimal and very late, and she ended up hung out to dry when she arranged a press conference for "Katie" and then she didn't show up.

dpibel

(3,820 posts)
32. AZ Johnny on the Spot
Sat Jan 31, 2026, 10:29 PM
9 hrs ago

It's all a big nothingburger, isn't it?

Or am I getting you wrong?

musette_sf

(10,462 posts)
26. and it adds a new cast
Sat Jan 31, 2026, 09:12 PM
10 hrs ago

to Ivana’s unceremonious finale. Like the only difference was that she got a headstone.

Uncle Joe

(64,462 posts)
4. If morality means nothing to him, the story is true, and he's an open book limited only by his immediate observations.
Sat Jan 31, 2026, 02:54 PM
16 hrs ago

I'm wondering if a journalist were to ask *rump using a really friendly, sweet demeanor in a nice respectful way whether this story was true with a smile on their face, would he admit to it without an attorney standing ready to stop him?

Thanks for the thread Miles Archer

littlemissmartypants

(32,505 posts)
9. Uncle Joe, Don's a psychopath.
Sat Jan 31, 2026, 03:30 PM
15 hrs ago
Characteristics of Psychopaths

1. Aggressive, callous, and cunning
2. Complete absence of conscience and empathy
3. Very adept at manipulating others
4. Willingness to engage in immoral, criminal conduct
5. Willingness to take what they want and do as they please, regardless of who is hurt or wronged
6. Deceptive ability to appear outwardly benevolent
7. Deceptive ability to behave in superficially charming ways to hide purely selfish motives
8. Willingness to use intimidation and violence to control others in order to satisfy their own needs
9. Willingness to intentionally violate the basic inherent human rights of others
10. Complete absence of any sense of guilt or remorse for the harm their actions have caused to others
11. Rationalization of their own immoral behavior
12. Will attempt to lay blame upon someone else for their own conduct
13. Denial, will deny their own wrongdoing outright
14. Utter contemptuousness toward the feelings and desires of their fellow beings
15. Pathological lying, will say anything without any concern for truth to advance their own hidden agendas
16. Ablity to feign [fake] normal human emotions and empathy
17. Distorted sense of the consequences of their actions
18. Total failure to accept any responsibility for their own socially irresponsible ways
19. Strong bellef that they will never be brought to justice for their criminal behavior


The rest of the story is 30% of America is, too.

https://psychopathyis.org/stats/

Nasruddin

(1,203 posts)
24. Except
Sat Jan 31, 2026, 09:01 PM
10 hrs ago

When he brags about it, and/or lies.

It's incredibly difficult to deal with a person like this.

angrychair

(11,850 posts)
6. From Epstein files released by DOJ and then hidden again
Sat Jan 31, 2026, 03:00 PM
16 hrs ago

From the Epstein Files that were released but then hidden again by the DOJ:

“Jeffrey Epstein would bring the children in and trump would auction them off. He measured the children’s vulva and vaginas by entering a finger and rated the children on tightness,” the complaint reads.


If that isn't the only thing we care about then we have already given up and given in as a nation.

sop

(17,818 posts)
12. That has to be the most horrible thing anyone's ever revealed about Trump. I feel unclean just reading it.
Sat Jan 31, 2026, 04:15 PM
15 hrs ago

angrychair

(11,850 posts)
13. To be clear
Sat Jan 31, 2026, 04:23 PM
15 hrs ago

It's an unsubstantiated accusation but it should have been investigated and there are at least 4 million documents that have not been released or have been completely redacted without explanation...in direct violation of the law.
Revelations like this make it incumbent upon us to know every single, unredacted, detail.

progressoid

(52,748 posts)
34. Prior to the election, Fox news claimed that the open border
Sun Feb 1, 2026, 01:06 AM
6 hrs ago

allowed child trafficking. As supporters of child safety, I'm sure that they will be covering this 24/7 as well.
.
.
.
.

Evolve Dammit

(21,580 posts)
8. I hope survivor's and their legal reps start with their list they were compiling. Clearly all redacted by DOJ
Sat Jan 31, 2026, 03:15 PM
16 hrs ago

Blue Owl

(58,501 posts)
16. Who else besides Ivana is buried at the pedophile's golf course?
Sat Jan 31, 2026, 04:39 PM
14 hrs ago

Sounds like it’s a dumping ground for all his rape disposable victims

Nasruddin

(1,203 posts)
25. Skepticism warranted
Sat Jan 31, 2026, 09:05 PM
10 hrs ago

Burying or disposing of victims.... you know he didn't do this personally, even if he supervised. Somebody else ran
the backhoe, dug the ditch, piloted the boat, what have you. He had to have help. So where are those people?

This means a very tight conspiracy. This makes me skeptical.

red dog 1

(32,633 posts)
17. Katie Johnson's Full Testimony of 2/11/16
Sat Jan 31, 2026, 04:41 PM
14 hrs ago


("Tiffany Doe" was the eyewitness who spoke under penalty of perjury)

Uncle Joe

(64,462 posts)
18. Beginning at about the 13:00 mark Tiffany Doe describes a sexual role playing incident
Sat Jan 31, 2026, 05:36 PM
13 hrs ago

whereupon *rump walks in on two maids making out and "threatens to call Immigration against the "Spanish maid" to give him blow job, that's basically his foreign poliicy.

Blue Owl

(58,501 posts)
29. And this FUCKING PEDOPHILE is running "ICE"
Sat Jan 31, 2026, 09:37 PM
9 hrs ago

An illegal army that is KIDNAPPING CHILDREN and disappearing them to undisclosed locations.

EVERY PARENT AND EVERY CITIZEN should be demanding Donald Trumps head and I can’t believe it’s not already rolling down Pennsylvania Avenue after this revelation.

This goes so, so far beyond the worst thing any president has ever done by miles and miles and miles….

woodsprite

(12,558 posts)
30. My daughter and I were just talking about the new dump of files.
Sat Jan 31, 2026, 09:56 PM
9 hrs ago

We've decided the verdict is still out on the validity of the files. I don't trust them not to tamper with them. They've had plenty of time to cherry-pick and doctor them up. And if these are the one they 'selected' to share, it makes you wonder what's in the ones they are holding on to. Daughter also pointed out that most of the entries are reports or 'tips' not from actual results of investigations.

Jack Valentino

(4,594 posts)
31. Knowing everything we already know about Trump, and the things he has bragged about,
Sat Jan 31, 2026, 10:18 PM
9 hrs ago

I remain more inclined to believe these allegations are true, than not.

2naSalit

(100,778 posts)
35. Seems like...
Sun Feb 1, 2026, 05:32 AM
1 hr ago

This whole cabal of monsters are maintaining the slave trade around the globe.

I think at least 80% of all accusations are probably true.

We need to run them out of power ASAP, by whatever means necessary.

Latest Discussions»General Discussion»This "raped a 13 year old...