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tulipsandroses

(8,180 posts)
Sun Feb 1, 2026, 10:36 AM 3 hrs ago

When you've lost Ammon Bundy -The anti-government militia leader can't make sense of his allies' support of ICE

Ammon Bundy Is All Alone
The anti-government militia leader can’t make sense of his allies’ support for ICE violence

Not so long ago, Ammon Bundy was the most famous right-wing militia leader in America. His two armed standoffs with federal agents had made him the face of the Patriot Movement: a loose assemblage of anti-government extremists, Second Amendment maximalists, and more than a few white nationalists. Even some mainstream elements of the Republican Party embraced him as a modern folk hero. But Bundy’s criticism of the Trump administration’s immigration crackdown now threatens to make him a pariah within his own community.

In November, Bundy self-published a long essay titled “The Stranger,” in which he labeled the Trump administration’s treatment of undocumented immigrants a “moral failure.” “To call such people criminals for lacking official permission” to be in the country, he wrote, “is to forget the moral law of God, the historical truth of our own founding, and the Constitutional ideals that continue to define justice.” On a recent livestream following the killing of Renee Good in Minnesota, Bundy told his audience that ICE’s conduct “clearly looks like tyranny.” If the government threatened his family, he said, he would fight back by whatever means necessary.

I spoke with Bundy a few hours after federal immigration agents shot and killed Alex Pretti. “It’s sickening to me,” he told me over the phone, “just to see the parallels of history repeating itself.” (In his November essay, he had compared the administration’s treatment of immigrants to the internment of Japanese Americans during World War II.) He added, “When it comes to the more humanitarian side of it, I think the left has it much more correct than the nationalist right.”

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/2026/02/ammon-bundy-trump-ice/685849/


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When you've lost Ammon Bundy -The anti-government militia leader can't make sense of his allies' support of ICE (Original Post) tulipsandroses 3 hrs ago OP
No words... newdeal2 3 hrs ago #1
I had hoped we would never have to hear from this insurrectionist again. travelingthrulife 3 hrs ago #2
Always remember; The enemy of my enemy is my friend. flashman13 1 hr ago #16
No sympathy for Bundy here, but ... FakeNoose 3 hrs ago #3
My first reaction too. Attilatheblond 47 min ago #23
This his how truly fcked this country is Cosmocat 3 hrs ago #4
He's only trying to get laid RB77 3 hrs ago #5
Mary Tyer Moore? NO... Marjorie Tyler Moore? NO... Safe as Milk 1 hr ago #17
One word. CULT. Ferrets are Cool 2 hrs ago #6
He should be in prison, with Trump. twodogsbarking 2 hrs ago #7
Dude's a fucking genius aocommunalpunch 1 hr ago #8
I'm surprised that he is willing to admit such a thing, though. Shipwack 24 min ago #28
Take the win Nasruddin 1 hr ago #9
Thank You RB77 1 hr ago #13
He's starting to recognize that the Govt he voted for was what his militia was formed to protect everyone from. mdbl 31 min ago #26
Words I never, ever thought I would hear from Bundy, MarineCombatEngineer 1 hr ago #10
It IS the upside down Maru Kitteh 1 hr ago #11
Don't agree with Bundy much, but I will say this: at least he's not a hypocrite, unlike members of the Republican party. Fil1957 1 hr ago #12
Will wonders never cease Easterncedar 1 hr ago #14
We are through the looking glass Blue Owl 1 hr ago #15
Things get curiouser and curiouser. twodogsbarking 1 hr ago #19
That reads like an educated thoughtful response BidenRocks 1 hr ago #18
My god. I just looked out the window and I could swear I saw a couple of pigs flying. Texin 1 hr ago #20
Ha, the worm is turning, as they say. Joinfortmill 52 min ago #21
It's easy to understand even you realize it's about racism JI7 51 min ago #22
He's an unstable self-absorbed attention whore with a loud angry violent style struggle4progress 44 min ago #24
MAGAts don't mind a tyrant violating the Constitution when victims are people they hate Martin Eden 39 min ago #25
If David Koresh (Waco seige) and Randy Weaver (Ruby Ridge standoff) were alive, they'd be anti-ICE, too. sop 27 min ago #27
ICE are the "Jack-booted thugs" Bundy has been warning us about. Bluetus 11 min ago #29

FakeNoose

(40,577 posts)
3. No sympathy for Bundy here, but ...
Sun Feb 1, 2026, 10:40 AM
3 hrs ago

... he is a rancher and he probably hires immigrants to work for him. Most likely he appreciates their cheap labor, if nothing else.

Attilatheblond

(8,481 posts)
23. My first reaction too.
Sun Feb 1, 2026, 01:16 PM
47 min ago

Lived in a remote ranching county. They LOVE Mexican laborers. Heard lots of complaints about American ranch hands and white Austrailian sheep shearers from those very RW/GOP voting ranch owners. To a one, they said the Mexican immigrants worked harder, were infinitely more polite to female ranch family members, and were never hung over or no-shows in the morning due to being arrested for brawling with locals in the bars.

Cosmocat

(15,369 posts)
4. This his how truly fcked this country is
Sun Feb 1, 2026, 10:43 AM
3 hrs ago

when one year into DT 2 this psychopath comes off as a voice of reason ...

RB77

(70 posts)
5. He's only trying to get laid
Sun Feb 1, 2026, 10:54 AM
3 hrs ago

I live in Idaho and the word has been buzzing around that he has a humongous crush on Mary Taylor Greene 😻

aocommunalpunch

(4,561 posts)
8. Dude's a fucking genius
Sun Feb 1, 2026, 12:05 PM
1 hr ago

“When it comes to the more humanitarian side of it, I think the left has it much more correct than the nationalist right.”

YA DON’T FUCKIN SAY?! Sheer brilliance here.

Shipwack

(3,022 posts)
28. I'm surprised that he is willing to admit such a thing, though.
Sun Feb 1, 2026, 01:38 PM
24 min ago

Yes, he’s a POS who should have been jailed long ago. However, I’m surprised that he is able to say something positive about the Left at all.

I’ve been saying for a few weeks now that these anti-government types have been showing their true colors by being silent. I can’t complain when one finally does speak out.

Strange days indeed.

Nasruddin

(1,204 posts)
9. Take the win
Sun Feb 1, 2026, 12:16 PM
1 hr ago

At least he has some principles.

We need every ally we can get to stand against the regime. Behind him there are more.
We should be able to negotiate a way to live with the movement he represents. Don't let some scheming psychopath get there 1st.

RB77

(70 posts)
13. Thank You
Sun Feb 1, 2026, 12:30 PM
1 hr ago

I certainly agree. It’s critical that we have as much support that we can get when they’re trying to take our country by force.

mdbl

(8,228 posts)
26. He's starting to recognize that the Govt he voted for was what his militia was formed to protect everyone from.
Sun Feb 1, 2026, 01:31 PM
31 min ago

Either way, he'll still turn into a big asshole if the govt prosecutes him for illegally using land for his cattle again.

MarineCombatEngineer

(17,843 posts)
10. Words I never, ever thought I would hear from Bundy,
Sun Feb 1, 2026, 12:20 PM
1 hr ago

we definitely live in strange times with strange bedfellows.

Again, that old saying, "The enemy of my enemy is my friend"....for now.

Fil1957

(618 posts)
12. Don't agree with Bundy much, but I will say this: at least he's not a hypocrite, unlike members of the Republican party.
Sun Feb 1, 2026, 12:28 PM
1 hr ago

twodogsbarking

(17,834 posts)
19. Things get curiouser and curiouser.
Sun Feb 1, 2026, 01:00 PM
1 hr ago

The Queen of Hearts
She made some tarts,
All on a summer's day;
The Knave of Hearts
He stole those tarts,
And took them clean away.
The King of Hearts
Called for the tarts,
And beat the knave full sore;
The Knave of Hearts
Brought back the tarts,
And vowed he'd steal no more.

BidenRocks

(2,920 posts)
18. That reads like an educated thoughtful response
Sun Feb 1, 2026, 12:59 PM
1 hr ago

from a contemptable liar and thief.
You had snipers on that fucking bridge asshole!
I am not the Lord so I do not have to forgive anything!

Deathbed conversion?

struggle4progress

(125,637 posts)
24. He's an unstable self-absorbed attention whore with a loud angry violent style
Sun Feb 1, 2026, 01:18 PM
44 min ago

Today lots of other assholes just like him are wearing ICE vests and attacking ordinary people

Stay the fuck away from him

Martin Eden

(15,419 posts)
25. MAGAts don't mind a tyrant violating the Constitution when victims are people they hate
Sun Feb 1, 2026, 01:23 PM
39 min ago

Bundy is an exception to this rule, apparently.

sop

(17,829 posts)
27. If David Koresh (Waco seige) and Randy Weaver (Ruby Ridge standoff) were alive, they'd be anti-ICE, too.
Sun Feb 1, 2026, 01:35 PM
27 min ago

Bluetus

(2,454 posts)
29. ICE are the "Jack-booted thugs" Bundy has been warning us about.
Sun Feb 1, 2026, 01:52 PM
11 min ago

Janet Reno was nothing next to these goons.

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