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[H2O Man]

Former AG Denise George’s Allegations Against Gov. Bryan, Others Surface in Latest DOJ Epstein Release
Newly released USDOJ records include an FBI interview in which former VI AG Denise George describes alleged political pressure, Epstein-related decisions, estate negotiations, and claims by a confidential informant regarding campaign-related donations.

https://viconsortium.com/vi-federal/virgin-islands-former-ag-denise-george-s-allegations-against-gov--bryan--others-surface-in-latest-doj-epstein-release


A DOJ spokesperson initially said the three million documents released were from the six million they evaluated for release. Within hours, it was said there were 200,000 still unreleased. Even those who do not find match fascinating can recognize that the difference between three million and 200,000 unreleased documents is the exact number of lies the DOJ is currently telling the American public.

In conversations with friends and associates yesterday, the issue of what is important in the released Epstein Pedo Files kept coming up. In any investigation, there is a difference between “raw” information and documented evidence. This is true for your local police and prosecutor investigating and prosecuting a crime, to the intelligence agencies of the countries that Epstein served. Thus, while the texts between Steve Bannon and Epstein making fun of the felon may be entertaining, the only thing they document is that even two fucking creeps viewed him as an ass clown.

In almost every investigation, it is important to recognize that it includes interviews with a variety of people who may or may not be relied upon to tell what they are convinced is the truth. Obviously, jailhouse snitches are usually only focused on their own potential benefits. Co-conspirators always have reasons to lie. Witnesses against a thug may include other criminals who are less than attractive individuals.

When interviewing potential victims, it is essential to be respectful. Creeps like Epstein target vulnerable individuals, and they carry scars. The emotional damage Epstein & Fiends inflicted on girls remains intense. At the same time, serious investigation sometimes draw people who make fantastic claims, like moths to a flame. They may honestly believe what they are saying is true, or they may be trying to discredit an investigation, as we saw recently.

The interview with Denise George is solid evidence of how expansive the criminal network that Epstein operated in actually was. The article I linked documents that as the Attorney General of the Virgin Islands, she filed a serious case that exposed wide-spread corruption linked with Epstein's operations there. The governor was “extremely mad,” and called her to yell about “going after people who are members of our team.” Of course she was fired immediately after she filed her case.

Wouldn't it be nice if our “team” continued to pressure the DOJ to release the documentation from Denis George's investigation, including the actual indictment she filed? And how about the files of the Miami Beach police? They were prepared to charge and convict at very least Epstein. They were furious when the DOJ took over the case, and gave Epstein and apparently twenty others besides Maxwell sweetheart deals? Deals that another court overturned, before going after Epstein and Maxwell?

It's almost like the other team can't be trusted.

[livetohike]

1. There better be Watergate style hearings/trial on national

TV. The debauchery, the corruption, the cover up, etc. I hope I live long enough to see this happen.

[malaise]

3. Coming soon

Rec

[H2O Man]

5. Right!

To quote Zimmerman, it's a slow train coming, up around the bend.

I mentioned in response #4 that there are an increasing number of maga podcasts where the hosts and guests are turning against the felon. Just as republicans made better use of "talk radio" than Democrats did, for years they actually used the internet better. That isn't limited to the contributions of Russian military intelligence in 2016. I know that Senator Obama's 2008 campaign did an outstanding job, because of the excitement he created. But few people are Barack Obama, only one that I count, with his unique, wide-spread appeal.

However, more recently, podcasts are becoming either a, or the, most important news source for a growing number of both Democrats and liberal & progressive independents. That obviously is true for younger voters, but it's the same with us Elders. So by the summer of 2027, there will be those hearings. And a lot will happen between now and then, with one thing for certain: the felon will not gain in popularity.

[H2O Man]

4. At the latest,

we will be watching those hearings in the summer of 2027. I do not think the republicans in either the House or Senate would dare tread there now. It is possible that if enough pressure is put on them, it could happen before we regain control of Congress. And it is possible that maga republicans at the grass roots level will apply that pressure, if they have an even semi-clear understanding of how the DOJ is playing their hand. And there are more and more maga podcasts that are turning against the felon, which increases the potential of once loyal maga listeners grasping the fact that they have been had.

[Saoirse9]

2. If even one tenth of what has been released is true

There are some seriously fucked up people who were abusing children in every way shape and form. Murder as well as rape. Trump isn't just IN the epstein files, he IS the epstein files.

Epstein might have gone along abusing children happily without trump but without trump, the enterprise wouldn't have had maralago to pull children from. And without trump the others involved would have been prosecuted a long time ago.

[H2O Man]

7. Yes.

An important point is exactly that -- without investments in slime, Epstein would have been a run of the mill child molester. So you are raising an important point in our discussion of examining raw information in a sequence that reveals both the how and why -- the very two things that we and others discussed here decades ago, on the Plame scandal. Funny how that works.

When there is this much data, we begin by focusing on how Epstein financed the sex ring. You may recall that in the past, when others have said by blackmailing other creeps, I've said that isn't really accurate. It was to get material to pressure/blackmail some people into making specific deals -- or to frequently turn a bling eye to others "on the team." But just the same as a little league team, there are sponsors that foot the bill. In this case, there are five billionaires that served this purpose, and they all have direct connections to a foreign intelligence network.

After this, we look for others who invested in Epstein-connected ventures. Let's think of a couple examples, shall we? How about beauty pageants and modeling agencies. Can we think of anyone -- maybe some president or another -- who was best buds with Epstein in the era of young girls, or young looking women, in modeling? How about those with similar investments in bringing Eastern European girls and women west, knowing that only a tiny fraction would actually become models? That others would be forced into prostitution? Or marrying the felon?

This was the method that Denise George was using ..... "follow the money," as we learned in Watergate. It leads to the funny money, to large donations to corrupt government officials, and to the identities of the vile sex offenders.

Make sense?

[canetoad]

6. Thank you for this post

I've assumed from the start that if the DOJ follows the ruling to release ALL the files, they are going to obfuscate and bury those that may contain pertinent details.

I get a feeling that internet sleuths worldwide accept this as fact and we can rely on different groups/organisations or media to do their own analysis of certain aspects of the files.

If the DOJ thinks that folk will be overwhelmed by the sheer number of inconsequential files, they have not factored in the persistence of internet researchers who HATE trump with a vengeance and will put in the hours and research to find incriminating evidence on him.

If Bondi's DOJ is as inept, undisciplined and uncommitted as most other aspects of this administration are, all we need to do is give the researchers time to piece the bits together.

[H2O Man]

8. A serious question:

I took a mighty hard fall on the ice yesterday, and haven't been able to catch up on a few things I'm interested in. So I'm hoping you know the answer to this -- has Bondi spoken or been seen in public for the last 48 hours? I heard that she is considering spending more time with her family, at a time when she is caught in the crossfire of two groups within the administration.

On another note, as pressures build, I think we might have some leaks of information on the significant features of the Epstein scandal.

[canetoad]

9. Ooooh, that would have hurt

Look after yourself and try to keep calm if possible.

I've seen nothing reported about Bondi's movements in the past couple of days. A cursory search of DuckDuckGo news returns this, in descending order of time/date:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/congressman-says-articles-of-impeachment-against-pam-bondi-have-been-drafted-over-epstein-file-delays-and-redactions/ar-AA1VsQOi
Congressman says articles of impeachment against Pam Bondi have been drafted over Epstein file delays and redactions

https://news.meaww.com/pam-bondi-signals-zero-tolerance-for-anti-ice-church-protests-we-will-find-you
Pam Bondi signals zero tolerance for anti‑ICE church protests: ‘We will find you’

https://www.msn.com/en-us/politics/government/pam-bondi-gives-chilling-warning-after-don-lemon-s-arrest-we-are-coming-after-you/ar-AA1Vm9S3
Pam Bondi gives chilling warning after Don Lemon's arrest: 'We are coming after you'

This lot takes us back three days. Nothing much interesting beyond that. I'm interested in the first - the impeachment reports. Please let it be true.

[H2O Man]

10. Thank you!

Very much appreciated!