Are we safe on DU from this criminal corrupt regime?

[mysteryowl]

I just read the article about a 67-year old woman being hunted by DHS for EMAIL posts.

With our screen names it helps protect us, but the NSA can find out who we are.
We post our true feelings about this horrible regime.

[marble falls]

1. We aren't if we cut and run.

[Conjuay]

2. I'm curious if VPNs help with these sorts of stalking.

I realize the government will get whatever it wants, whenever it wants it, but is a VPN somewhat effective?

[IrishAfricanAmerican]

44. Very effective.

Highly recommended.

[._.]

3. Press On

Fascism gets it's foot hold through fear.
Speak up.

[mobeau69]

4. Give me liberty or give me death. Fuck'em.

[Cirsium]

5. No

I don't think anyone is safe.

But I'm sure there will be people showing up and saying "don't be silly!" so I guess everything is OK and there is nothing to worry about.

Samples:

"They can't do that." "Those charges will never stick." "The states control elections." "Time for a lawsuit." "Don't spread conspiracy theories." "Don't give up."

[PatSeg]

10. I don't think anyone is safe either

It doesn't matter who you are, everyone has some kind of vulnerability.

[canetoad]

17. They'd literally need

To chase me to the ends of the earth.

[mysteryowl]

24. ...

Well, if the earth is flat, I guess you will fall off into space.

[Permanut]

26. It's not possible that the Earth is flat..

If it was, cats would have knocked everything off the edge by now.

[mysteryowl]

28. ...

[lindysalsagal]

45. ....

[EdmondDantes_]

19. I'll say it. Stop acting like Trump is omnipotent

If some government agent shows up, be clear you won't speak without an attorney, and unless they have a warrant, they can talk to the closed door. They want you afraid so you don't resist. There's not enough government employees to round everyone up.

[mysteryowl]

25. I started this thread because of how bad it is in Minnesota.

Businesses are closed. Schools are closed or 1/2 attendance and on and on...
It is a real mess.

[EdmondDantes_]

32. Doesn't mean we should all hide and hope his poor lifestyle fixes things

The only way out is through hard work. Trump doesn't have enough law enforcement people to come harass everyone who speaks up.

[mysteryowl]

36. I'm going to stop interacting with you now.

[Cirsium]

41. No one is doing that

No one is saying we should all hide. But there are people in hiding right now, and for good reason. People are helping others hide. That is the hard work.

Perhaps you are struggling within yourself about this?

Trump doesn't have enough law enforcement people to come harass everyone who speaks up? Wanna bet? Have you read any history at all? Do you think telling the Gestapo they could "talk to your door" if they didn't have a warrant would have been any sort of sane strategy?

[Cirsium]

40. Begging your pardon?

Afraid so that I don't resist? What sort of convoluted logic is that? No, my friend, I have a healthy and well-founded fear so that I can. Complacency is the problem. Denial is the problem.

They can talk to the closed door? Talk is cheap. Do you have any idea what is going on? They can and will smash right through your precious door. Warrants? Since when? Not with ICE.

I can't for the life of me understand why in this crisis anyone would try to lull people or mock their very real sense of danger.

"There's not enough government employees to round everyone up?" Since when was "everyone" rounded up in any authoritarian horror show? Not in Fascist Italy. Not in Nazi Germany. Not in Pinochet's Chile. So what? How many detainees would be OK with you? How many people need to be disappeared before it will be OK with you if people are fearful?

If you feel safe and secure, good for you, but don't put others in danger by downplaying the very real dangers and dismissing people's fears.

[Deuxcents]

6. As I understand it, an email was sent by this woman and they found it threatening. Actually, no one is safe anymore

[mysteryowl]

7. Okay.

I also remember a video of woman with her husband and Secret Service came to her house asking questions about online posts. I think it was on X.

The guy asked things like, "Do you go to protests?" "Do you have any guns?"

[JustAnotherGen]

8. I don't care

Seriously. They are absolutely evil. If they want to get us - they will.

[struggle4progress]

9. "The most potent weapon in the hands of the oppressor is the mind of the oppressed" - Steve Biko

[DFW]

12. Wise words

Trump's biggest asset among the common folk is not the crowds that cheer him, but the people who say nothing at all.

[tavernier]

20. Well, I'm good then because as my husband would tell you when he was alive

I won’t shut up.

[DFW]

11. Remember the socialist regime of East Germany

They kept an immense amount of data of every private citizen they could. They had so much data, in fact, that their "state security (Stasi) " apparatus drowned under the weight of information they had collect6ed. After socialism fell in the DDR, their citizens were allowed to look up whatever the state had collected on them. People that had never considered themselves active dissidents were amazed to find huge dossiers amassed on them. People in the DDR knew perfectly well about how their State was watching them, and nowhere near a majority of them dared to be open about their views until the regime was about to collapse. In the States, these days, although the technology is far more advanced, the numbers of the opposition are well over 50% of the population. No regime can follow up on a number of that magnitude. What they can do is make examples of a few, and thus hope to instill fear in the rest of us, but that is about it. We have to watch for that, and not let them get away with it.

[mysteryowl]

14. Watch for it and not let it happen.

Sounds great. I wonder how?

[DFW]

16. Vigilancw is about the only hope.

There are signs all over the Métro in Paris, the U-Bahn in Berlin, I suspect in the Tube in London as well. They refer to bombs left in gym bags, but the posters could refer to ordinary citizens seeing or hearing about creeping measure to restrict and abolish liberty cut by cut: "If you see something, say something." City council meeting? Go. Say something. Town Hall being held by ANYBODY? Go. Say something. Have a local newspaper? Write them a letter. If they don't publish it, write them another, and get everyone you know who feels the same way to do the same thing. One person? You'll get squashed. A solid group of dedicated people? Not so easily.

[pwb]

13. They want to control us through fear.

But for some like me I turn fear into Anger. Anger I control.

[mysteryowl]

15. My primary is anger for sure.

[Ping Tung]

18. There is no safety in the cosmos. Alan Watts

[EarthFirst]

21. Agent Mike knows us well...

…and he’s got a whole new bag of tricks.

[Happy Hoosier]

22. No. None of us are safe.

I'm not exagerrating. This is it. We stop them in 2026, or we don;t stop them.

[highplainsdem]

23. Safety in numbers. DU is a small part of online criticism of this evil regime. It's important to continue

speaking out because this regime is a danger to the entire planet. Trump is a malignant narcissist and psychopath showing clear signs of dementia, there are no guardrails around him, and he has control of enough weaponry to destroy the planet. We won't be any safer if we don't speak out.

We need those people fighting the regime directly, from the judges trying to rein in Trump's lawlessness to the protesters confronting ICE, to know they have support and are appreciated.

[surfered]

27. We must, indeed, all hang together or, most assuredly, we shall all hang separately. Benjamin Franklin

[Jack Valentino]

29. Statistically speaking on the internet, DU is very "small potatoes"---

if it comes to such things, "DailyKos" will be a much bigger target before anyone bothers to think of DU,
just because of the number of participants---
(other than for the little troll maggots whom our MIRs eliminate mostly after their first posts---
and which I still regret that I rarely ever am able to read, other than 'post deleted' LOL!)

[mysteryowl]

30. Not to be a downer but...

I remember when DU was targeted so badly on the election day that Hilary lost. It took a long time for them to get the site back up. I know it was bad-actors, but still, DU is known.

[usonian]

31. Homeland Security is targeting Americans with this secretive legal weapon ("administrative warrant")

https://www.adn.com/nation-world/2026/02/03/homeland-security-is-targeting-americans-with-this-secretive-legal-weapon/



Warrant Canary: (EFF) https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2014/04/warrant-canary-faq

[orangecrush]

33. If I wanted to be safe

I'd join the Coast Guard.

[Initech]

34. With all the shit I've talked about the fucking asshole and his nightmare rotation here..

They'd lock me up in about 5 seconds!

[mysteryowl]

35. ...

[Bread and Circuses]

37. DOGE stole most taxpayer information and has resold it . Palantir is stealing SS Data, military, Law enforcement files

We’re NOT safe anywhere.

That’s why we must NOT Give up.

Don’t hide. I’ll stand beside you,

[Iggo]

38. Probably not. But we're not safe away form DU, either, so...

[Cha]

39. When I read about the "email woman being

hunted.. " .. I thought.. what if they got a load of what we say about them on DU".

EarlG had a post about that once a little while ago, because someone else asked this question, but I can't remember details.. he did say something about that's why they're on FB.. so we can get in touch IF anything happens.

I think that's what I remember.. Could be not entirely accurate.. can't swear to it.

[Skittles]

42. no one is safe

but DU does self-moderate - I think any outright threats for example would be flagged

but in the end, fascists target everyone

[KentuckyWoman]

43. My expectation is they know where we all live.

Back in the early days, DU had a running joke about Agent Mike. My cousin used to take the battery out of her Tracfone when not using it so the government could not track her. When cable TV started, people worried the government would use it to see in our homes or listen in. There was a whole thing about satellites that were so good they could read the print off your book if you sat by a window. These concerns, warranted or not, have been around awhile.

Technology being what it is, I would expect if they don't know our addresses, they could within an hour or so if motivated. Not just DU, but everything communicated everywhere. In times past, we learned to live with the reality because our government didn't abuse it much. Now.... well all bets are off.