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BlueWaveNeverEnd

(13,404 posts)
Thu Feb 5, 2026, 11:30 AM 10 hrs ago

Ahhh..so this is where Epstein got all that money

https://nypost.com/2025/10/18/us-news/jeffrey-epstein-sent-nasty-emails-to-apollo-founder-leon-black/

Jeffrey Epstein sent nasty emails to billionaire Leon Black demanding millions per year before arrest: report

Jeffrey Epstein sent a barrage of nasty emails to his cash cow, billionaire Leon Black, pressuring him to fork over millions of dollars per year to keep his lavish lifestyle afloat.

The disgraced financier and sex trafficker warned that Black’s financial advisors and “retarded” children had created a “really dangerous mess” by attempting to plug the flow of cash, according to emails obtained by the New York Times.

“I never want to have any more uncomfortable money moments with you , I find it very distasteful,” Epstein wrote in a Nov. 2, 2015 email to the Apollo Global Management founder.

“so to be clear , my terms are as follows . I will only work for the usual 40 million per year. It needs to be paid, 25 million upon signing an agreement . 5 million every 2 months thereafter for 6 months ie march may june . this can begin if i am able in January. I will immediately stop work , if the payment is not received [sic]” he wrote, according to the outlet.

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Susan Estrich, a lawyer for Black, asserted that all payments from Black to Epstein were purely for legitimate tax- and estate-planning services, as proven by an outside law firm hired by Apollo to review the pair’s relationship.


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Ahhh..so this is where Epstein got all that money (Original Post) BlueWaveNeverEnd 10 hrs ago OP
That doesn't sound like someone demanding payment for "legitimate tax- and estate-planning services," sop 10 hrs ago #1
Yeah...all these super rich pedos have been dreading this day BlueWaveNeverEnd 9 hrs ago #5
Oh,it was such a taxing job to perform.. BattleRow 7 hrs ago #24
Alex, I'll take Extortion for $5 UpInArms 10 hrs ago #2
Yep...kinda blackmailing him: Epstein provided vulnerable teens for rich men to abuse then extorts BlueWaveNeverEnd 9 hrs ago #4
There's a really good article from Rolling Stone from several years ago that badhair77 10 hrs ago #3
I remember reading that in RS Alliepoo 8 hrs ago #11
Yes, he did give poa to Epstein. badhair77 8 hrs ago #21
Must be one hell of an estate mercuryblues 9 hrs ago #6
What I can't understand Dan 9 hrs ago #7
deadman's switch harumph 9 hrs ago #8
I don't understand, harumph. Please explain. TY ❤️ littlemissmartypants 8 hrs ago #15
on a train there is a thing called a deadman's switch. Javaman 8 hrs ago #18
Thanks, Javaman. ❤️👋 littlemissmartypants 7 hrs ago #28
Unfortunately there were so many big money, law enforcement, and mass media figures involved... hunter 7 hrs ago #31
mmm cause they were scared of the trump "russian" mafia? Justice matters. 9 hrs ago #9
They did kill him...days after federal prosecutors met with Epstein to discuss cooperation in their investigation. sop 8 hrs ago #12
Epstein was going to name names FakeNoose 7 hrs ago #26
Gee, what name appears in association with Epstein over 38,000 times? Hugin 7 hrs ago #32
If you catch vermin in a trap other vermin will eat the dead carcus from the trap. twodogsbarking 8 hrs ago #13
Fear of reprisal or they would lose out on littlemissmartypants 8 hrs ago #17
That would be like an addict killing their drug dealer. mercuryblues 6 hrs ago #36
Damn, that's cold. Dan 5 hrs ago #38
"asserted that all payments from Black to Epstein were purely for legitimate tax- and estate-planning services" Ray Bruns 9 hrs ago #10
Based on that I am certainly going to show more respect to my accountant. Hugin 7 hrs ago #30
Les Wexner was his first billionaire client FakeNoose 8 hrs ago #14
Uncomfortable Emails gfarber 8 hrs ago #16
This is so good!!! BlueWaveNeverEnd 8 hrs ago #19
Interesting Vanity Fair article from 2021 badhair77 8 hrs ago #20
So interesting. The Meisters had brains BlueWaveNeverEnd 7 hrs ago #29
I've only read one third of this article NJCher 6 hrs ago #35
Check out Wexner's wiki. There are allegations he was tied to the Ohio State badhair77 5 hrs ago #39
Paying someone to keep quiet is not tax deductible , but tax planning is. surfered 8 hrs ago #22
He didn't get it fro,m being a pimp and human trafficker Warpy 8 hrs ago #23
Yes. He started out hiring pretty young women for the office BlueWaveNeverEnd 7 hrs ago #25
Haven't seen Susan Estrich around in forever BaronChocula 7 hrs ago #27
I think that review didn't take place until recently, after Epstein was dead FakeNoose 7 hrs ago #34
The Epstein Plague BaronChocula 6 hrs ago #37
Recommended. H2O Man 7 hrs ago #33

sop

(17,895 posts)
1. That doesn't sound like someone demanding payment for "legitimate tax- and estate-planning services,"
Thu Feb 5, 2026, 11:43 AM
10 hrs ago

it sounds more like Black was being threatened to pay up, or else some “retarded” children would create a “really dangerous mess.”

BlueWaveNeverEnd

(13,404 posts)
4. Yep...kinda blackmailing him: Epstein provided vulnerable teens for rich men to abuse then extorts
Thu Feb 5, 2026, 12:04 PM
9 hrs ago

Parasitic less well off people such as Sarah Ferguson beg Epstein for money.

The whole thing is just awful, pathetic and sad

badhair77

(5,109 posts)
3. There's a really good article from Rolling Stone from several years ago that
Thu Feb 5, 2026, 11:48 AM
10 hrs ago

focuses a lot of attention on the past owner of Victoria’s Secret, Les Wexner. Apparently JE “managed” Wexner’s money. It’s an interesting article. Sorry I don’t have time to dig for a link.

Alliepoo

(2,791 posts)
11. I remember reading that in RS
Thu Feb 5, 2026, 01:02 PM
8 hrs ago

Didn't Wexner give Epstein complete power of attorney over his business and the legal right to do anything he wanted with Wexners billions? I do seem to recall reading that in the article. I think it said that Epstein took the opportunity to enrich himself substantially with that agreement. Sounds pretty shady to me.

badhair77

(5,109 posts)
21. Yes, he did give poa to Epstein.
Thu Feb 5, 2026, 01:48 PM
8 hrs ago

Here’s a Vanity Fair article discussing Wexner’s relationship with Epstein. This may have been your source.

Dan

(5,030 posts)
7. What I can't understand
Thu Feb 5, 2026, 12:20 PM
9 hrs ago

If Epstein was blackmailing all these super rich guys - why didn't they just have him killed and burn his estate to the ground?

Seriously, even street rats know enough to do that.

Javaman

(65,401 posts)
18. on a train there is a thing called a deadman's switch.
Thu Feb 5, 2026, 01:26 PM
8 hrs ago

the engineer always has his or her hand on it, if they let go, the train stops.

epstein built in a deadman's switch in the event he got killed, certain files would be released.

hunter

(40,462 posts)
31. Unfortunately there were so many big money, law enforcement, and mass media figures involved...
Thu Feb 5, 2026, 02:30 PM
7 hrs ago

... that nobody, not even powerful people once removed from the mess, wanted that shit to blow up and damage our sacred financial sector.

The dead man's switch did go off and it should have exploded but it was effectively suppressed as a slow burn leaving the typical "man on the street" uncertain about the significance of it all.

Mention it to most people and the first person they'll think of is Andrew-the-former-prince, a buffoon of no political or financial consequence. Or maybe Bill Gates, a guy retired from the Big Game who seems to be regretting some terrible decisions he made with his dick. This is all by design.

sop

(17,895 posts)
12. They did kill him...days after federal prosecutors met with Epstein to discuss cooperation in their investigation.
Thu Feb 5, 2026, 01:04 PM
8 hrs ago

(From The Guardian) 'Epstein lawyers discussed possibility of cooperation with prosecutors days before his death, files reveal'

"Less than two weeks before Jeffrey Epstein’s death in jail, his lawyers and Manhattan federal prosecutors met and discussed his potential cooperation, several documents within a cache of newly released investigative files state."

“ 'On July 29, 2019, FBI and [prosecutors] met with Epstein’s attorneys, who, in very general terms, discussed the possibility of a resolution of the case, and the possibility of the defendant’s cooperation,' an FBI document titled 'Epstein Investigation Summary & Timeline' stated."

"Another document titled 'Jeffrey Epstein Significant Case Notification,' which was not attributed to a specific agency, closely resembled this FBI memo, and provided several more details."

“ 'Defense Counsel did not make a specific proposal, and they did not indicate what the nature of Epstein’s cooperation might be, if any,' this document stated. 'It was suggested that Defense Counsel contact SDNY if Epstein was prepared to accept responsibility for his conduct and/or they had a specific proposal for a resolution of this case.' "

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/jan/31/epstein-lawyers-discussed-cooperation

FakeNoose

(40,668 posts)
26. Epstein was going to name names
Thu Feb 5, 2026, 02:06 PM
7 hrs ago

... and it usually means a guilty plea and an agreement to cooperate.

Also one year earlier Epstein offered some kind of intel to Putin in 2018 just before the Helsinki meeting. We don't know what it was, but it seems that Putin used it on Chump as a form of blackmail.

Whatever happened in that meeting, maybe Chump figured out that Epstein was the source of the info? Epstein spent an extended period out of the country. But in June 2019 he was arrested as soon as his plane landed at Peterboro Airport in NJ.



Hugin

(37,597 posts)
32. Gee, what name appears in association with Epstein over 38,000 times?
Thu Feb 5, 2026, 02:30 PM
7 hrs ago

It sure ain’t mine.

twodogsbarking

(17,911 posts)
13. If you catch vermin in a trap other vermin will eat the dead carcus from the trap.
Thu Feb 5, 2026, 01:05 PM
8 hrs ago

Substitute Republican for vermin if you are inclined.

Ray Bruns

(6,092 posts)
10. "asserted that all payments from Black to Epstein were purely for legitimate tax- and estate-planning services"
Thu Feb 5, 2026, 12:58 PM
9 hrs ago

Hugin

(37,597 posts)
30. Based on that I am certainly going to show more respect to my accountant.
Thu Feb 5, 2026, 02:27 PM
7 hrs ago

Yeah, sure. Riiiight.

FakeNoose

(40,668 posts)
14. Les Wexner was his first billionaire client
Thu Feb 5, 2026, 01:20 PM
8 hrs ago

By the time he graduated to Leon Black, he had the rap down pretty good.

gfarber

(229 posts)
16. Uncomfortable Emails
Thu Feb 5, 2026, 01:21 PM
8 hrs ago


There once was a financier named Jeff,
Who found gentle requests bad for his health.
He emailed with spite,
Demanded cash outright,
To bankroll the scale of his wealth.

He wrote to a titan named Black,
Saying funds must be put back on track.
“Uncomfortable talks
Are beneath me,” he squawks,
“Send millions—or work I’ll retract.”

“Forty mil is my usual fee,”
He declared with astounding ennui.
“Pay part up front,
Then the rest every month,
Or immediately—count me as free.”

He warned that advisers had made,
A perilous tangle, he said.
With language quite crass,
Crossing lines unsurpassed,
In emails the Times later read.

The notes painted pressure and threat,
A lifestyle he wouldn’t offset.
Cash flow must run,
Or the work wouldn't be done—
A bargain both blunt and beset.

Black’s lawyer then pushed back hard,
Said the payments were fully above-board.
Just tax plans and trusts,
No coercion, no dust,
Per reviews by a firm brought aboard.

So the tale sits in records and ink,
Where power and money both clink.
A reminder how greed,
When it takes the lead,
Can make even billionaires blink.

BlueWaveNeverEnd

(13,404 posts)
29. So interesting. The Meisters had brains
Thu Feb 5, 2026, 02:19 PM
7 hrs ago

In September 1997, Wexner celebrated his 60th birthday with a dinner at his Ohio estate. Meister says he used the occasion to once again tell Wexner how untrustworthy Epstein was. “My wife and I told him and Abigail hundreds of times to stay away from Epstein,” Meister said. In front of guests including former senator Joe Lieberman and real estate developer Marshall Rose, Meister said he begged Wexner to sever ties with Epstein. “Les wouldn’t listen,” Meister said. It was the last time Meister visited Wexner’s house.

NJCher

(42,740 posts)
35. I've only read one third of this article
Thu Feb 5, 2026, 03:07 PM
6 hrs ago

and I can't wait to read the rest. There is something very, very fishy here. Here's an example. Levin was the legitimate money manager that Epstein ousted.

snip:

Levin’s skepticism was confirmed as soon as he arrived at Epstein’s Madison Avenue office. There were no visible signs of a trading operation; just Epstein sitting behind a desk that didn’t even have a computer. “Epstein was trying to explain a currency trade he wanted to do. I have an MBA from Ohio State, and I didn’t understand a word the man said,” Levin recalled. Levin went back to Columbus and reported that Epstein was a fraud. “I told Les, ‘Stay away from him,’ ” Levin remembered. Wexner agreed not to do the trade.

snip

badhair77

(5,109 posts)
39. Check out Wexner's wiki. There are allegations he was tied to the Ohio State
Thu Feb 5, 2026, 04:26 PM
5 hrs ago

wrestling scandal as a member of the board. Apparently there is also a Hutu documentary about his seedier side. He’s still alive. Why is no one pulling him in front of Congress?

He also appears in Virginia Giuffre‘s book.

Warpy

(114,497 posts)
23. He didn't get it fro,m being a pimp and human trafficker
Thu Feb 5, 2026, 01:53 PM
8 hrs ago

Those, I think, were more his favorite hobbies than his life's work. He also used underage girls to gain access to the rich, poweful and semi impotent in order to scam them.

And that's part of what they want covered up, that and the money laundering conduits he used to amass his paper fortune.

BaronChocula

(4,170 posts)
27. Haven't seen Susan Estrich around in forever
Thu Feb 5, 2026, 02:07 PM
7 hrs ago

I hope she has a conscience in choosing her clients like this (Leon) Black guy.

FakeNoose

(40,668 posts)
34. I think that review didn't take place until recently, after Epstein was dead
Thu Feb 5, 2026, 02:44 PM
7 hrs ago

Leon Black's relationship with Epstein stayed out of the public eye until these documents and emails started surfacing. Then suddenly Apollo wasn't so sure they wanted Black as their CEO anymore. Susan Estrich may have been called in at that point, I'm not sure.

H2O Man

(78,859 posts)
33. Recommended.
Thu Feb 5, 2026, 02:32 PM
7 hrs ago

Epstein's "career" was financed by five billionaires, all connected to the intelligence agency of a Middle Eastern country. This would later allow for him to make more by way of money-laundering, primarily by way of his island.

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