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highplainsdem

(60,812 posts)
Thu Feb 5, 2026, 03:23 PM Thursday

Reporter doing story on Epstein & Silicon Valley CEOs was told by an SV comms rep that _Grok_ said he was lying

Bluesky thread from the NYT tech reporter who did the story, followed by some of the replies about idiots trusting AI.

While reporting this, I had something happen that's never happened. A comms rep for one of the co's disputed my reporting and said what I was telling them was untrue because it was not in Grok, xAI's chatbot.

I was looking directly at the files. And this person was using AI to challenge the truth.

Ryan Mac 🙃 (@rmac.bsky.social) 2026-02-05T17:38:53.472Z


The comms rep just had no ability to comprehend that AI takes in the information that already exists in the world and repackages it. Our reporting had yet to be published and therefore wasn't out in the world hadn't been ingested by any chatbot.

And they just... believed the chatbot.

Ryan Mac 🙃 (@rmac.bsky.social) 2026-02-05T17:42:50.194Z




Multiply that by 50 million US voters as see where that gets us.

Ralph (@ralphhhenson.bsky.social) 2026-02-05T17:45:17.985Z




Yiiikes…

I thought this would be an emerging issue in some pockets of the population like high schoolers or or people generally unused to doing any kind of research . I did not expect it to already be an issue for white color information-based professionals

Phillip Vander Klay (@vanderklay.bsky.social) 2026-02-05T17:47:54.927Z


it's because Silicon Valley has done its best to frame these bots as search engines, instead of what they actually are, which is larger-scale versions of the shitty autoprediction tool in your phone that constantly predicts everything incorrectly.

five pennies in a trenchcoat (@snickettes.bsky.social) 2026-02-05T19:26:38.212Z



I can't find the skeet now, but (if I recall correctly) a few months ago @tressiemcphd.bsky.social mentioned some guy was insisting she was married because that's what Google AI Overview was telling him and was even sending her screenshots as "proof" — as if she wouldn't know her own marital status.

Rebecca Kennison (@rrkennison.bsky.social) 2026-02-05T19:39:03.948Z


Yes!

Tressie McMillan Cottom (@tressiemcphd.bsky.social) 2026-02-05T19:44:18.050Z



AI makes people stupid. By design.

Kelly Barnhill (@kellybarnhill.bsky.social) 2026-02-05T19:42:38.069Z


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Reporter doing story on Epstein & Silicon Valley CEOs was told by an SV comms rep that _Grok_ said he was lying (Original Post) highplainsdem Thursday OP
The reply from Phillip Vander Klay kinda made me drop my jaw. mwmisses4289 Thursday #1
See reply 2, which I was writing the same time as you were writing your post. I heard first, years ago, highplainsdem Thursday #3
I remember being shocked when I found that mwmisses4289 Thursday #5
The first time I heard a story like this was nearly 3 years ago when a despairing teacher told me one of her highplainsdem Thursday #2
I follow Arizona State football FHRRK Thursday #4
Oh, no! Who published that story? highplainsdem Thursday #6
Can't recall FHRRK Thursday #7
All chatbots should be regarded as beta releases -- subject to revision and correction. eppur_se_muova Thursday #8

mwmisses4289

(3,557 posts)
1. The reply from Phillip Vander Klay kinda made me drop my jaw.
Thu Feb 5, 2026, 03:48 PM
Thursday

I almost want to go onto bluesky to ask him: Dude, where have you been for the last few months? Did you miss the major story on the young lawyers around the country being ripped by judges for using AI to write their error filled briefs? Or the companies whose teams have used AI for preliminary reports and have had to go back and correct the outright errors done by AI?

Is AI becoming the new "if it's on the internet it must be true" thing?

highplainsdem

(60,812 posts)
3. See reply 2, which I was writing the same time as you were writing your post. I heard first, years ago,
Thu Feb 5, 2026, 04:20 PM
Thursday

about people being gullible, where chatbots are concerned, from teachers who saw this in their students. And I have kept up and often posted about adults being gullible as well.

I still felt surprised that anyone in Silicon Valley would be quite so naive. Obviously.Ryan Mac had been surprised, too, even though as a tech journalist he would've known about all the news stories on lawyers (not always young ones) and other educated adults being foolish about AI.

Hell, I still feel some disbelief when DUers post AI Overviews from Google, or want to tell everyone what ChatGPT said, or what Gemini said (and we do have some DUers who apparently consider Grok a great and reliable source of information).

mwmisses4289

(3,557 posts)
5. I remember being shocked when I found that
Thu Feb 5, 2026, 04:30 PM
Thursday

there were people who would believe anything posted to the internet was 100% true. It was a commercial for an insurance company, of all things. I remember turning to my husband, with a rather shocked look on my face, and asking him was that true? After he had laughed at my shocked expression, he told me yeah, it was true.
I guess most of us are too trusting.

highplainsdem

(60,812 posts)
2. The first time I heard a story like this was nearly 3 years ago when a despairing teacher told me one of her
Thu Feb 5, 2026, 03:48 PM
Thursday

students refused to believe an encyclopedia article because ChatGPT disagreed.

That was appalling, but at least it was a schoolkid, ChatGPT was fairly new, and another teacher posted about the same time that almost none of the students in his classes were aware ChatGPT could be wrong.

That reporter was dealing with a comms rep for a Silicon Valley company.

There's no way that comms rep could have been unaware of the standard warnings from AI companies that genAI makes mistakes and results must always be checked.

But they still trusted the chatbot.

FHRRK

(1,404 posts)
4. I follow Arizona State football
Thu Feb 5, 2026, 04:29 PM
Thursday

Last month I got an AI generated story on ASU recruiting a highly rated player. (Good so far)

Last paragraph of three paragraph article stated, the recruiting rankings may go way up as there are other highly rated recruits that may commit. Issue was, the potential recruits listed, played at ASU in the late nineties and early 2000s, played in the NFL and are currently in their 40s and retired.

eppur_se_muova

(41,299 posts)
8. All chatbots should be regarded as beta releases -- subject to revision and correction.
Thu Feb 5, 2026, 07:40 PM
Thursday

Because "perpetual beta" is about the only kind of software that tech bros are pushing anymore.

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