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Doodley

(11,779 posts)
Thu Feb 5, 2026, 03:43 PM Thursday

Many people assume the holocaust could never happen again. How do we know it hasn't started already?

How will we know if the people who are violently arrested without due process, separated from their loved ones, chained and shackled, treated as less than human, and deported from America to hellhole concentration camps in El Salvador, and soon in other nations, aren't going to be gassed to death?

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Many people assume the holocaust could never happen again. How do we know it hasn't started already? (Original Post) Doodley Thursday OP
Doodley, I'm glad I'm not the only one wondering this. Scrivener7 Thursday #1
Been posting this here for a while Johnny2X2X Thursday #2
And some people think we can't compare to 1930s Germany. The hate among the far right is a tinderbox ready to ignite. Doodley Thursday #19
Thought the same! In Nazi Germany citizens thought Jews were just being deported. kerry-is-my-prez Thursday #3
Historians doubt that Germans didn't know EdmondDantes_ Thursday #13
Nobody in the Trump regime needs to know or care about what happens when, what they see as vermin, is removed. Doodley Thursday #20
I see a lot of 'vermin' in the White House just now, Jack Valentino Thursday #25
Some didn't know LostOne4Ever Thursday #26
By the time that many of them did know, there wasn't much they could do about it. They would have been just shot or raccoon Yesterday #30
so much cheaper to bury them. mopinko Thursday #4
Cambodia, Rwanda, Sudan, the Kurds, etc., etc Kaleva Thursday #5
What have they done with the homeless. Blue Full Moon Thursday #6
'how do we get rid of poor people as a whole'" rampartd Yesterday #28
The Nazi's started with 200 murders in 1934 of political opponents WarGamer Thursday #7
i think we are in the tens of thousands by including Tetrachloride Thursday #8
I agree that the OP is hyperbolic from where we sit now TheProle Thursday #11
You're right, of course... WarGamer Thursday #12
Why does there have to be a contest? choie Yesterday #31
With all due respect, I'm asking a question. That isn't hyperbole. Doodley Thursday #16
With all due respect, I'm asking a question. That isn't hyperbole. Doodley Thursday #17
Who is comparing Trump to the holocaust? I've not seen that. Is he a fascist? Yes. An authoritarian? Yes. Is he Doodley Thursday #14
As far as the ADL is concerned, everything trivializes the Holocaust. iemanja Thursday #21
I don't understand how choie Yesterday #32
Yeah you'd think... purr-rat beauty Yesterday #33
Just remember - the Holocaust didn't start with the gas chambers. Initech Thursday #9
Thank you. Yes, we should not keep saying it will never happen, even as it comes closer and closer to that possibility. Doodley Thursday #18
Frank Zappa predicted it back in 1966: Initech Thursday #23
Umm, how could we not know it hasn't started already? ananda Thursday #10
True we have no idea what they Tree Lady Thursday #15
I watched a short doc on YouTube over the weekend about Vichy France rounding up Jews for deportation to Germany. Iggo Thursday #22
I keep saying on Here... Takket Thursday #24
The fact that the camps need to be liberated is a huge clue as to what's going on. Iggo Yesterday #34
What do you think the empty warehouses are for pnwest Yesterday #27
Warehousing. That's what. Iggo Yesterday #37
Unfortunately, all TOO familiar. pnwest Yesterday #38
It's been happening all over the world ever since the end of WWII Kaleva Yesterday #29
History can repeat itself LetMyPeopleVote Yesterday #35
I'm not sure it ever stopped, seems like it just went on a world tour 0rganism Yesterday #36

Johnny2X2X

(23,826 posts)
2. Been posting this here for a while
Thu Feb 5, 2026, 04:38 PM
Thursday

I know of no cases in history where what is happening in the US right now did not lead to the discovery of mass graves.

We have a secret police rounding people up with absolutely no oversight. They're above the legal system and answer to 1 man, and that man has spent years telling everyone who will listen that immigrants are animals, terrorists, rapists, and basically the cause to all of the country's problems. Furthermore, these people being rounded up are being shipped to secret prison camps with virtually no oversight whatsoever and these prison camps are getting bonuses for throughput.

Doodley

(11,779 posts)
19. And some people think we can't compare to 1930s Germany. The hate among the far right is a tinderbox ready to ignite.
Thu Feb 5, 2026, 08:59 PM
Thursday

kerry-is-my-prez

(10,233 posts)
3. Thought the same! In Nazi Germany citizens thought Jews were just being deported.
Thu Feb 5, 2026, 04:56 PM
Thursday

And what happened to the people who were at Alligator Alcatraz??? It’s being reported that they don’t know where any of them went.

EdmondDantes_

(1,524 posts)
13. Historians doubt that Germans didn't know
Thu Feb 5, 2026, 06:07 PM
Thursday

I think the biggest reasons to think we haven't taken those steps are the Trump administration's incompetence would suggest they couldn't manage that, and that they leak like a sieve and we haven't gotten reporting on it.

Jack Valentino

(4,626 posts)
25. I see a lot of 'vermin' in the White House just now,
Thu Feb 5, 2026, 11:04 PM
Thursday

starting at the head of the snake, and moving its way down from there....


raccoon

(32,281 posts)
30. By the time that many of them did know, there wasn't much they could do about it. They would have been just shot or
Fri Feb 6, 2026, 05:37 AM
Yesterday

sent to a camp themselves.

Blue Full Moon

(3,291 posts)
6. What have they done with the homeless.
Thu Feb 5, 2026, 05:11 PM
Thursday

In the Epstein files, Hollywood producer Barry Josephson emailed Epstein: "I've been thinking a lot about that question that you asked bill gates 'how do we get rid of poor people as a whole'"

rampartd

(4,237 posts)
28. 'how do we get rid of poor people as a whole'"
Fri Feb 6, 2026, 01:53 AM
Yesterday

well you start with an economy that works for everyone, with equal justice under the law, and with programs to help housing education and health.

what is wrong with rese people?

WarGamer

(18,321 posts)
7. The Nazi's started with 200 murders in 1934 of political opponents
Thu Feb 5, 2026, 05:34 PM
Thursday

I think your statement is hyperbolic.

The very anti-Trump ADL has come out recently saying comparisons of Trump to the holocaust "denigrates the memory of the 6 million and trivializes the horrific events of the Holocaust".

https://www.adl.org.il/en/news/adl-condemns-president-trumps-remarks/#:~:text=There%20is%20no%20rationalizing%20white,The%20American%20people%20deserve%20better.

These comparisons are ahistorical and somewhat ignorant tbh

Tetrachloride

(9,488 posts)
8. i think we are in the tens of thousands by including
Thu Feb 5, 2026, 05:39 PM
Thursday

2016-2000 immigrants
and collateral damage in pandemic area

exact terminology I leave to others

TheProle

(3,940 posts)
11. I agree that the OP is hyperbolic from where we sit now
Thu Feb 5, 2026, 05:50 PM
Thursday

but the "Never Again" bullshit never was...

Bangladesh Genocide up to 3 million
Cambodian Genocide up to 3 million
Blockade of Biafra 1million +

Stat tallying up those from African Civil Wars, and you easily get into the millions there as well.

WarGamer

(18,321 posts)
12. You're right, of course...
Thu Feb 5, 2026, 06:00 PM
Thursday

We can open a 4000 year window and see a thousand genocides including the Romans vs the Jews which killed 30% of all Jews alive at the time...

Doodley

(11,779 posts)
14. Who is comparing Trump to the holocaust? I've not seen that. Is he a fascist? Yes. An authoritarian? Yes. Is he
Thu Feb 5, 2026, 08:47 PM
Thursday

following the same playbook as Hitler in the 1930s in using nationalism, scapegoating minorities, the cult of personality, undermining norms and laws, and media, grabbing power, trying to silence critics, using violence against perceived enemies? Yes, and we don't know how far that will go. I married a Jew and honestly, to not recognize the similarities means we have not learned from the past.

iemanja

(57,621 posts)
21. As far as the ADL is concerned, everything trivializes the Holocaust.
Thu Feb 5, 2026, 09:07 PM
Thursday

Rwanda, Gaza, the Congo, Chile, Argentina, Brazil, Guatemala, El Salvador, Cambodia, Armenia. The ADL doesn’t take a human rights stand on anything except anti-semitism.

Calling the ADL “very anti-Trump” is inaccurate. They have supported ICE deportations of Palestinians and, to my knowledge, have been mute on his current human rights abuses in the sense they have not denounced them.

choie

(6,801 posts)
32. I don't understand how
Fri Feb 6, 2026, 06:22 AM
Yesterday

talking about the horrors of other genocides trivializes the Holocaust. There’s a similar attitude when it’s mentioned that there were other victims of the Holocaust such as the homosexual population. I don’t understand why there has to be a contest.

purr-rat beauty

(1,087 posts)
33. Yeah you'd think...
Fri Feb 6, 2026, 07:04 AM
Yesterday

They would be one if not the loudest voice out there. Prob got ties to Epstein, nothing surprises me now.

Initech

(107,970 posts)
9. Just remember - the Holocaust didn't start with the gas chambers.
Thu Feb 5, 2026, 05:39 PM
Thursday

That was the final step. We're way past the midway point on this.

Doodley

(11,779 posts)
18. Thank you. Yes, we should not keep saying it will never happen, even as it comes closer and closer to that possibility.
Thu Feb 5, 2026, 08:53 PM
Thursday

Iggo

(49,756 posts)
22. I watched a short doc on YouTube over the weekend about Vichy France rounding up Jews for deportation to Germany.
Thu Feb 5, 2026, 09:15 PM
Thursday

Last edited Fri Feb 6, 2026, 12:18 PM - Edit history (1)

Seems a lot like what’s going on in this country.

I’ll see if I can find it…

Here it is:

Takket

(23,552 posts)
24. I keep saying on Here...
Thu Feb 5, 2026, 10:54 PM
Thursday

We are going to find mass graves behind the concentration camps no one is allowed in, when the camps are liberated. Many reports of deaths already and those are the reports that actually get out. You can’t tell me many more aren’t dying and just being buried out back.

pnwest

(3,443 posts)
27. What do you think the empty warehouses are for
Fri Feb 6, 2026, 01:22 AM
Yesterday

That ICE is buying up all over the place? Gotta put all the journalists, dissenters and brown people somewhere…

Iggo

(49,756 posts)
37. Warehousing. That's what.
Fri Feb 6, 2026, 03:55 PM
Yesterday

Just gotta keep the rest of us quiet until they get them on the trains. (Sound familiar?)

pnwest

(3,443 posts)
38. Unfortunately, all TOO familiar.
Fri Feb 6, 2026, 04:14 PM
Yesterday

And as has been proven many times over the last 10 years, every time they say we're exaggerating - turns out we're not.

Kaleva

(40,281 posts)
29. It's been happening all over the world ever since the end of WWII
Fri Feb 6, 2026, 02:30 AM
Yesterday

Mostly nonwhites are the victims so it doesn’t get much attention.

0rganism

(25,526 posts)
36. I'm not sure it ever stopped, seems like it just went on a world tour
Fri Feb 6, 2026, 03:52 PM
Yesterday

Someday maybe, but we've got some growing up to do as a species first.

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