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mcar

(45,810 posts)
Thu Feb 5, 2026, 07:56 PM 21 hrs ago

Dem Leaders in the House and Senate released 10 things they are seeking in their negotiations with Republicans on DHS fu

Someone tell me again why this is bad.

https://www.meidasplus.com/p/today-in-politics-bulletin-301-2526

Today in Politics, Bulletin 301. 2/5/26
Ron Filipkowski
Feb 05, 2026
∙ Paid
… Dem Leaders in the House and Senate released 10 things they are seeking in their negotiations with Republicans on DHS funding on immigration enforcement operations:

-Judicial warrant requirement
-No masks
-Require ID on officers
-Prohibit enforcement in schools/churches
-Prohibit race-based stops
-Implement use of force standards
-Allow states to investigate misbehavior
-Set detention standards
-Must wear body cameras
-Uniform standards

… Sen. Maj. Leader John Thune: “It’s totally unrealistic, their demand list went from 3 items to 10 items. It just shows you they’re not serious. There’s a bunch of stuff in there that’s a non-starter, and they know it. Maybe they had to put it in there to satisfy MoveOn or some of their left wing special interest groups.”

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Dem Leaders in the House and Senate released 10 things they are seeking in their negotiations with Republicans on DHS fu (Original Post) mcar 21 hrs ago OP
Do link to where anyone here said this was bad. Thanks. Scrivener7 21 hrs ago #1
All over Bluesky. Many OPs on DU mcar 21 hrs ago #2
The complaints were about Schumer and Jeffries saying, before negotiations started, that it would be OK for ICE to wear Scrivener7 21 hrs ago #5
So... piddyprints 21 hrs ago #3
This is what I'm asking mcar 21 hrs ago #4
No one is saying any of them is unreasonable. The OP has provided a strawman. Scrivener7 21 hrs ago #6
I'm responding to this: piddyprints 21 hrs ago #8
Clearly I wasn't clear either. I wasn't saying your post was a strawman. I'm saying the OP implying Scrivener7 20 hrs ago #9
Thank you for clarifying. piddyprints 20 hrs ago #10
The only good thing about this is it puts the R's in a corner. Phoenix61 21 hrs ago #7
Senate and House Democrats have just released their demanded changes to rein in ICE. LetMyPeopleVote 20 hrs ago #11
Great! Thanks. nt mcar 19 hrs ago #12
Mahalo, LMPV! Cha 15 hrs ago #17
Need to add hospitals cpamomfromtexas 18 hrs ago #13
Couple of headlines that Dems "softened," "cave" on masks and everyone barks CAVE! CAVE! CAVE! CAVE! SCHUMER'S CAVE! betsuni 17 hrs ago #14
"The Lord Jehovah has given unto you these fifteen...oy...ten! Ten Commandments for all to obey!" 0rganism 17 hrs ago #15
Bookmarking, mcar.. Mahalo! Cha 15 hrs ago #16
If Thune doesn't like it then he can just fuck right off. GoodRaisin 13 hrs ago #18

mcar

(45,810 posts)
2. All over Bluesky. Many OPs on DU
Thu Feb 5, 2026, 08:03 PM
21 hrs ago

complaining that Schumer/Jeffries have caved. I'm sure you can find them with a brief scan of the site.

Scrivener7

(58,872 posts)
5. The complaints were about Schumer and Jeffries saying, before negotiations started, that it would be OK for ICE to wear
Thu Feb 5, 2026, 08:14 PM
21 hrs ago

masks sometimes. Which was dumb, and moved the discussion from the murder of citizens in the street to when masks might be necessary. Thankfully, Murphy and DeLauro were able to walk that back and reiterate that masks have to go.

But this published list of negotiation points is a completely different subject, and I've seen nothing on DU resembling what you are saying. I've seen no one on DU saying this is bad. Apparently you have. So again please do provide links.

Otherwise, we'll have to assume this is YET AGAIN outrage at DUers about something that never happened on DU.

mcar

(45,810 posts)
4. This is what I'm asking
Thu Feb 5, 2026, 08:05 PM
21 hrs ago

I'm seeing all over social media, including here, that Schumer/Jeffries have caved. I'm just not seeing that. Wonder why it's happening.

piddyprints

(15,072 posts)
8. I'm responding to this:
Thu Feb 5, 2026, 08:17 PM
21 hrs ago

Sen. Maj. Leader John Thune: “It’s totally unrealistic, their demand list went from 3 items to 10 items. It just shows you they’re not serious. There’s a bunch of stuff in there that’s a non-starter, and they know it. Maybe they had to put it in there to satisfy MoveOn or some of their left wing special interest groups.”

Maybe I wasn’t clear. But thanks for assuming something else.

Scrivener7

(58,872 posts)
9. Clearly I wasn't clear either. I wasn't saying your post was a strawman. I'm saying the OP implying
Thu Feb 5, 2026, 08:24 PM
20 hrs ago

that people here are complaining about the published list of negotiation points is a strawman.

Sorry about the confusion. And yes, I agree with you. Thune is talking out of his ass and even his constituency wants these things.

Phoenix61

(18,766 posts)
7. The only good thing about this is it puts the R's in a corner.
Thu Feb 5, 2026, 08:17 PM
21 hrs ago

None of those things will change the culture of ICE if leadership stays the same.

LetMyPeopleVote

(176,667 posts)
11. Senate and House Democrats have just released their demanded changes to rein in ICE.
Thu Feb 5, 2026, 08:44 PM
20 hrs ago

Keeping ICE from polling places is in this plan



betsuni

(28,887 posts)
14. Couple of headlines that Dems "softened," "cave" on masks and everyone barks CAVE! CAVE! CAVE! CAVE! SCHUMER'S CAVE!
Thu Feb 5, 2026, 11:46 PM
17 hrs ago

And just like that, the MSM, the corporate industrial oligarch-owned right-wing media complex is trustworthy and nice, holding mean old centrist Democratic leadership ( THEM ) feet to the fire for The People and Republicans. Play ball!

GoodRaisin

(10,796 posts)
18. If Thune doesn't like it then he can just fuck right off.
Fri Feb 6, 2026, 03:45 AM
13 hrs ago

Far as I’m concerned. The lawlessness and the thuggery needs to stop here and now. Some arrests need to be made too for what has already happened.

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