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Coldwater

(1,128 posts)
Fri Feb 6, 2026, 07:10 AM 23 hrs ago

RFK Jr touts' keto diet as cure for schizophrenia

A low-carbohydrate, high-fat diet might cure schizophrenia and other psychological disorders, according to Health and Human Services Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr.

Kennedy said during a speech in Nashville, Tennessee, on Wednesday that a ketogenic diet, more commonly known as keto, can cure schizophrenia and bipolar disorder.

The brief comment in his 20-minute address, alongside Tennessee Gov. Bill Lee, came as Kennedy touted the Trump administration’s new Dietary Guidelines for Americans document, which sets the food policy for federally funded nutrition programs such as food stamps and school lunches.

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https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/other/rfk-jr-touts-keto-diet-as-cure-for-schizophrenia/ar-AA1VFGdc

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RFK Jr touts' keto diet as cure for schizophrenia (Original Post) Coldwater 23 hrs ago OP
More Good Advice from RFK Jr Coldwater 23 hrs ago #1
Doesn't seem to be working for you, Spunky! no_hypocrisy 23 hrs ago #2
;-{) Goonch 23 hrs ago #3
The massive stroke you get C_U_L8R 23 hrs ago #4
No no no 😧 holy crap what the hell 🙄 TommieMommy 22 hrs ago #5
No. Just simply no. bucolic_frolic 22 hrs ago #6
A ketogenic diet can help with epilepsy but how he Phoenix61 21 hrs ago #7
Read the article - it is currently being researched, Ms. Toad 21 hrs ago #11
Nothing in the article suggests a cure. Phoenix61 16 hrs ago #15
I didn't say I it was a cure Ms. Toad 13 hrs ago #16
Except 21 didn't have significant improvement. Phoenix61 10 hrs ago #20
My entire point is that the medical community is not dismissing it out of hand, Ms. Toad 9 hrs ago #23
I didn't dismiss it out of hand. Phoenix61 8 hrs ago #29
I see an msn article quoting RFK Jr. and Drumpf Sparkly 7 hrs ago #31
I did not say there was a conclusive study buried there. Ms. Toad 5 hrs ago #37
Is there a diet to cure whatever... 3catwoman3 21 hrs ago #8
No food, no water ever again Pizza slice 21 hrs ago #9
Did anyone bother to read the article before condemning the idea? Ms. Toad 21 hrs ago #10
I read it and condemn it and dismiss it Samael13 7 hrs ago #32
So you're happy with the treatments available, and don't believe Ms. Toad 5 hrs ago #35
Frikken nuts bif 19 hrs ago #12
I like and have followed (mostly) the Keto diet Norbert 18 hrs ago #13
Tell that to Mass General - which is currently recruiting for a pilot study. n/t Ms. Toad 13 hrs ago #17
... an unfounded claim that experts say vastly overstates preliminary research struggle4progress 18 hrs ago #14
Forgive me, but thats crazy. mr715 13 hrs ago #18
And idiots will lap it up sakabatou 13 hrs ago #19
This is dangerous iemanja 10 hrs ago #21
Keto can do some amazing things, even improve some mental health, but it can't do that. mucholderthandirt 9 hrs ago #22
Mental health is affected by many different issues depending on the individual... haele 9 hrs ago #24
Is there a cure for stupidity? n/t Jacson6 8 hrs ago #25
No. Klarkashton 8 hrs ago #27
Maybe he needs to face "retribution" after this shit. Klarkashton 8 hrs ago #26
Before forming a conclusion about these claims. Permanut 8 hrs ago #28
let's not lose sight...... Takket 7 hrs ago #30
That is why a friend who is on the keto diiet is experiencing niyad 7 hrs ago #33
Oh, if it were only that simple. Zackzzzz 6 hrs ago #34
I truly hate the wellness industry with every micro fiber of my being. Initech 5 hrs ago #36
gawd, not that Keto bullshit Skittles 5 hrs ago #38

bucolic_frolic

(54,481 posts)
6. No. Just simply no.
Fri Feb 6, 2026, 08:36 AM
22 hrs ago

Is it a war on psychology to boost preachers? Using food as a cure for everything while they pollute us to death with deregulation?

Mediterranean diet for longevity. Keto diet has side effects. All that fat for heart disease, cancer, and kidney stress.

Phoenix61

(18,769 posts)
7. A ketogenic diet can help with epilepsy but how he
Fri Feb 6, 2026, 08:41 AM
21 hrs ago

concluding it would work for mental health conditions is bonkers.

Phoenix61

(18,769 posts)
15. Nothing in the article suggests a cure.
Fri Feb 6, 2026, 02:37 PM
16 hrs ago

They all had a metabolic disorder.
“On average, the participants improved 31% on a psychiatrist rating of mental illness known as the clinical global impressions scale, with three-quarters of the group showing clinically meaningful improvement.”
75% of 31% is not a cure. The scale is an observation scale and this wasn’t a double blind study so the psychiatrist knew they were part of the study. Interesting and worth further study, absolutely, a cure, definitely not.

Ms. Toad

(38,408 posts)
16. I didn't say I it was a cure
Fri Feb 6, 2026, 04:43 PM
13 hrs ago

I said there was some preliminary success

A small pilot study in 2024 from Stanford Medicine, examining 21 adult patients diagnosed with schizophrenia or bipolar disorder, found that they had significant improvements in their mental illness symptoms after following a keto-based diet.


And that it is being researched
Research physicians at Massachusetts General Brigham in Boston are currently soliciting new patients to conduct a clinical trial on using keto diets for people with bipolar I disorder or schizoaffective disorder.


Neither Stanford nor Mass General are quack facilities. RFK Jr certainly is a quack - but that doesn't mean that every single thing he says is deserving of knee jerk ridicule.

Phoenix61

(18,769 posts)
20. Except 21 didn't have significant improvement.
Fri Feb 6, 2026, 08:26 PM
10 hrs ago

75% of (31% of 21) = 75% of 6.5 = 4.8. That’s a little less than a quarter. How much of that is the Hawthorn Effect? I’ll wait for a double-blind peer reviewed study before I think much of anything about this.

Ms. Toad

(38,408 posts)
23. My entire point is that the medical community is not dismissing it out of hand,
Fri Feb 6, 2026, 09:03 PM
9 hrs ago

As you did in the post to which I responded.

Phoenix61

(18,769 posts)
29. I didn't dismiss it out of hand.
Fri Feb 6, 2026, 10:31 PM
8 hrs ago

I’m all for pursuing further research. My point was it’s no where near “ A cure for schizophrenia” status.

Ms. Toad

(38,408 posts)
37. I did not say there was a conclusive study buried there.
Sat Feb 7, 2026, 12:51 AM
5 hrs ago

I said there was currently being researched, with some indication of success. If you read the article, you see there were positive case studies by Stanford (some indication of success), and Mass General is recruiting for a pilot study (research being done).

I was responding to someone who suggested it was bonkers to suggest it might help mental health. Apparently researchers at some big name institutions don't believe it is bonkers.

Ms. Toad

(38,408 posts)
10. Did anyone bother to read the article before condemning the idea?
Fri Feb 6, 2026, 09:23 AM
21 hrs ago

This is something being researched, with some preliminary success.

Samael13

(131 posts)
32. I read it and condemn it and dismiss it
Fri Feb 6, 2026, 11:09 PM
7 hrs ago

I'm a bipolar schizophrenic and I deal with enough issues with people telling me what I need to do to feel better. This idiot parroting a study thats dubious at best and calling it a cure does nothing but hurt me.

Ms. Toad

(38,408 posts)
35. So you're happy with the treatments available, and don't believe
Sat Feb 7, 2026, 12:41 AM
5 hrs ago

that research being done by Mass General and Stanford is worth pursuing, simply because you are learning about it from an idiot?

Just as a point of reference, one of the most promising treatments for a rare disease my daughter has (which currently has zero approved treatments) is being dismissed as stupid and worthless because the doctor who discovered it was a pediatrician who is not a researcher by profession. In the two decades since she discovered the link there have been dozens of studies - all supporting what started as a series of case studies - and it is still not an approved treatment. I have little tolerance for rejecting, out of hand, ideas simply because one of the proponents isn't deemed worthy of respect.

Norbert

(7,651 posts)
13. I like and have followed (mostly) the Keto diet
Fri Feb 6, 2026, 11:42 AM
18 hrs ago

and have dropped 20 pounds. I must restart it more vigorously.

Using Keto to cure schizophrenia is ... how can I say this ... CRAZY.

struggle4progress

(125,677 posts)
14. ... an unfounded claim that experts say vastly overstates preliminary research
Fri Feb 6, 2026, 11:51 AM
18 hrs ago

into whether the high-fat, low-carbohydrate diet might help patients with the disorder ...

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/02/05/us/politics/kennedy-keto-diet-schizophrenia.html

When I need medical advice, I also ask a former pusher with a history of heroin addiction and parasitic b rain infections!

mucholderthandirt

(1,773 posts)
22. Keto can do some amazing things, even improve some mental health, but it can't do that.
Fri Feb 6, 2026, 08:48 PM
9 hrs ago

This guy is a dumbass. Typical MAGA stupidity and insanity. We need to turn about half the country into a walled mental asylum and send them all there for life. No contact, no help, just close them in and let nature take her course.

haele

(15,188 posts)
24. Mental health is affected by many different issues depending on the individual...
Fri Feb 6, 2026, 09:06 PM
9 hrs ago

I live with 4 genetically similar people who have functionally affective neuro-divergence along ADHD and Autism spectrum and rapid-cycle bipolar. Each has episodes that are triggered by different situations, have different symptomatic conditions. Three are medicated, and each react differently to various types of medication; and two have been on keto diets in the past - and other than the physical benefits of the weight loss, less stress on joints that resulted in less pain, and lower A1Cs, there was no noticeable change to their conditions that warrented a change in medication.
Now, Metformin, a blood sugar medication often used by people who do keto for weight loss or health reasons, has been found to be useful in treating the brain fog of Long COVID, along with some neurological problems (like Alzheimer's) related to plaque concentration in the brain. And I'll only say that because there's been several years of study, the reasons and environment in which the drug would be effective was modeled and tested, and several thousand participants tested before this was announced.
On edit...
But that doesn't make what works in some people the be-all/cure-all. And what's very telling is that they're still in early testing of this expanded hypothesis.
Only snake oil influencers looking to make a buck announce a "break through" in early tests.

Permanut

(8,131 posts)
28. Before forming a conclusion about these claims.
Fri Feb 6, 2026, 10:00 PM
8 hrs ago

I will carefully consider RFK Jr.s credentials - his training, accomplishments and experience in the field of medicine.

Takket

(23,550 posts)
30. let's not lose sight......
Fri Feb 6, 2026, 10:38 PM
7 hrs ago

as we all look on with outrage as ICE thugs murder Americans in cold blood in broad daylight, that among drmupf's cabinet members, no one is going to kill more Americans and immigrants alike than RFK, and it isn't even close.

Initech

(107,962 posts)
36. I truly hate the wellness industry with every micro fiber of my being.
Sat Feb 7, 2026, 12:44 AM
5 hrs ago

It's because of this bullshit that nearly 1,000,000 people died from COVID and people reject science for wellness garbage.

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