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WCGreen

(45,558 posts)
Sun Dec 30, 2012, 09:33 PM Dec 2012

The main reason the Military part of the budget is off limits, for all intents and

purposes.

Pork. Not the kind you eat but the kind that is spread around to almost every congressional district in the country. From research to deployment to huge air bases to payroll processing, the Military spread the pork around so if a congressional person gets to "feisty" about cutting the Pentagons budget, the little bit of pork will be removed from the budget and so lose some jobs.

And no one want to be blamed for losing jobs in their district.

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The main reason the Military part of the budget is off limits, for all intents and (Original Post) WCGreen Dec 2012 OP
Pork as blackmail, courtesy of the military. CaliforniaPeggy Dec 2012 #1
Congress nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #2
Absolutely - GoneOffShore Dec 2012 #3
More truth to that then I think most people want to believe. Arctic Dave Dec 2012 #5
I agree with Barney Frank ellisonz Dec 2012 #4
The Military has become the de facto fourth branch of government dballance Dec 2012 #6
The military is our most adored, overfed, useless, and sacred of our Sacred Cows. Tierra_y_Libertad Dec 2012 #7
Too many people worship war, especially those who are never going to WCGreen Dec 2012 #8
I understand the point, BUT.... Demo_Chris Dec 2012 #9
It's just a phenomenally wasteful jobs program TexasBushwhacker Dec 2012 #10
That's fucking welfare! eom ChisolmTrailDem Dec 2012 #11
 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
2. Congress
Sun Dec 30, 2012, 09:37 PM
Dec 2012

The military would rather prefer to have manufacturing concentrated. It makes little logistical sense.

ellisonz

(27,711 posts)
4. I agree with Barney Frank
Sun Dec 30, 2012, 09:39 PM
Dec 2012

We could cut several hundred billion out of the Defense budget and not sacrifice national security one bit.

 

dballance

(5,756 posts)
6. The Military has become the de facto fourth branch of government
Sun Dec 30, 2012, 09:39 PM
Dec 2012

Seems the founding fathers were correct in their fears of having a standing army. It certainly seems to have taken control of our discretionary budget.

 

Demo_Chris

(6,234 posts)
9. I understand the point, BUT....
Mon Dec 31, 2012, 03:11 AM
Dec 2012

In most districts losing some defense industry jobs is a hit which impacts a very limited number of potential voters -- and this is assuming that the military pork you voted against is the pork being worked on in your district. Let me cut to the chase, which is more likely to cost you enough votes to matter:

1. A cut in defense spending that MIGHT, potentially, impact your home district. And note how unlikely this is.

2. A cut to entitlement spending that impacts a huge swath of voters

I think that FAR more potential voters are bothered by the loss of services that directly benefit them, yet there is no shortage of people in congress lined up to cut these. So why isn't defense spending on the table? Take your pick: kickbacks, campaign contributions, book buyouts, speaking engagements, or all of the above.


Lockheed Martin earned 46 BILLION dollars profit in 2011. Total spending on the 2012 Presidential elections was about 2.5 billion. Which is why the folks in Washington pay a whole lot more attention to what Lockheed Martin wants than what you want.


TexasBushwhacker

(20,196 posts)
10. It's just a phenomenally wasteful jobs program
Mon Dec 31, 2012, 03:20 AM
Dec 2012

with obscene profits built in. If we're going to have government jobs programs, lets have them rebuilding our roads and bridges, upgrading our grid, building green energy, retrofitting our buildings and making them more energy efficient, providing healthcare, etc etc etc. Having a bloated military is just a waste of money especially when we go into debt to pay for it.

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