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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThe Winter Olympics are full of entitlement and leisure class athletes
Clearly there are exceptions, but almost to a person, every competitor is a wealthy silver-spooner.
At least the Summer games provide some sports for those not born or privilege.
Prove me wrong.
JT45242
(3,923 posts)Hockey outside the US is not a privilege sport as many club teams hand down equipment.
But figure skating, snow boarding, bobsled, etc take huge bucks either from the person or the government.
sir pball
(5,291 posts)No, they aren't "buy a basketball and go to the city court" cheap by any means, but they're hardly polo or motorsports or yacht racing
plenty of non-millionaires hit the slopes every winter
Now, to get to an Olympic level is a different story, it does take a hefty chunk of change to have the free time and coaching infrastructure for that, but the same applies to any sport, right down to running or ping-pong.
JT45242
(3,923 posts)Like golf...you have to look at how much u have to pay to practice to get good.
Then there is all the travel costs if you live outside the rocky mountain area
sir pball
(5,291 posts)Day passes are yes, they are wildly overpriced, but nobody who's serious, about getting good or just having fun, buys one. Season passes are a MUCH better deal, a weekday pass at Sugarloaf in Maine is $769. Not dirt cheap, but not unaffordable for a lot of people. Gear is a non-issue unless you have to have the newest, shiniest toys I have a perfectly serviceable set of used boots and skis that I got for
PJMcK
(24,897 posts)I stopped watching the Olympics years ago. They are all professional athletes because they have to be in order to survive and train. That commercialism doesnt interest me.
Further, the organizers almost always fail spectacularly from a financial perspective. Too often, the expensive infrastructure becomes a waste once the Games are over.
Just my opinion.
rampartd
(4,238 posts)the biathlon more so, perhaps the ski jump less.
edhopper
(37,171 posts)Middle Class to pursue most of these sports.
But so what? They are dedicated athletes who put their whole life into being as good as they can be.
And for the most part, most will never get rich doing it. All those athletes fro all those countries are there to compete.
Why does their background matter?
And you don't need to be privileged to Curl.
sir pball
(5,291 posts)Yes, if you're good at one of the big pro-league sports (e.g. basketball/baseball/football) you can get the support you need without having to pay via the HS->college->pro pipeline, but for pretty much any other sport you need to have the resources to make training an unpaid (or worse yet, a paying-for) full-time job. It takes just as much time and effort to be a good runner or tennis player, but in a bit of a paradox, you can't make a living off of it until you've proven yourself top-tier, on your own time and your own dime.
BannonsLiver
(20,316 posts)oberle
(305 posts)have to include everyone?
MineralMan
(150,879 posts)Simple, eh?
mysteryowl
(8,752 posts)obamanut2012
(29,246 posts)Johonny
(25,752 posts)From competing...
tinrobot
(11,989 posts)Plenty of winter sports that don't require figure-skating levels of income to compete.
WhiskeyGrinder
(26,662 posts)themaguffin
(5,003 posts)Celerity
(54,002 posts)Deep State Witch
(12,654 posts)From my town, Laurel, MD. At least middle class - enough to go to college on a track scholarship.
https://www.teamusa.com/profiles/bryan-sosoo
Bryan Sosoo grew up in Laurel, Maryland, and in high school was the Maryland state champ in the 55-meter and triple jump. Sosoo attended Monmouth University, where he set the school record and won three conference titles in the 60m.
After graduation, Sosoo continued his track and field career, competing internationally for Ghana until 2024, when he made the switch to bobsled and joined the U.S. national team.
Sosoo would make his IBSF World Cup debut to begin the 2025-26 season and would be named to his first Olympic team for the Olympic Winter Games Milano Cortina 2026.
Igel
(37,430 posts)Born with a silver spoon leading to her bourgeois and upper-crust early life.
Really?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simone_Biles
Serena and Venus Williams started off in Lynnwood, CA--not exactly Holmby Hills. Their father was a tennis player and coach, and his family were sharecroppers. Truly the Rockefellers and Pritzkers there. Can't get a more privileged upbringing than that. Except for the wise move to upscale Compton. Their achievements came from inborn ability, skills resulting from training and practice--and that took investment of time, effort, and a lot of money. Can't watch a youtube video or read "The Inner Game of Tennis" bought used for that.
How's this? Let's have top NFL, NBA, NHL athletes--as well as Taylor Swift, Bad Bunny, and other singers--work 40+ hours a week in working class jobs. Bad Bunny can run an excavator. Taylor Swift, she can be a high school music teacher. Billy Eilish can be a greeter at Walmart or something. The athletes? They can go and coach high school or middle school, full time jobs + a lot of extra time in after school practice and on weekends. Granted, in TX they get June off, but practice resumes in July (same for things like band).
You want to be a top athlete, your job is training to be an athlete. You are a top athlete, your job is to continue to train to be at the top of your game. Maybe you get paid; maybe you get sponsorships; maybe you do what a lot of kids do to break into the field, you bust your butt in hopes of a payday. Dak Prescott may have been born wealthy or not, but to keep in shape for what he does requires time that a 40-hour plus a week job, with the usual dropping of kids off and picking them up, doing dishes and vacuuming and mowing the yard just wouldn't allow.
Does he deserve his multi-million dollar contract? From a strict $/hr perspective, no. His pay isn't retirement benefits or stock options or such, it's just pay. Yet few complain about Billy Eilish or that Bad Bunny's stashed maybe $100 million away. Most working-class 31-year-old Joes don't have that kind of reserve.
Without that training, I want to see Sunday football feature South High's football team versus North this week (Eugene, OR), Grand Oaks versus Woodlands next week (TX) because the standard of play wouldn't be much better than that.
MineralMan
(150,879 posts)have ski teams. Most have hockey teams. Kids from all economic levels participate, and fans support the sports and help kids who can't afford them to compete.
If you are a highly skilled, competitive athlete in any of those sports, you will have no trouble continuing to compete.
Of course, it's not Polo.
quaint
(4,805 posts)Elite skater? Yes.
Entitled childhood? No.
JI7
(93,365 posts)Even Summer athletes need to do things like raise funds with both working parents at decent jobs.
