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CountAllVotes

(22,146 posts)
Sat Feb 7, 2026, 11:38 PM 13 hrs ago

Seems the Ancient Order of Hibernians has condemned dump

>>TRUMP LOSES KEY IRISH GROUP OVER OBAMA SLUR
President Trump has lost the support of Sean Pender, the leader of the Ancient Order of Hibernians, the largest Irish group in America group because of his racist Obama comments_
Pender wrote::"The Ancient Order of Hibernians condemns in the strongest possible terms the racist depiction of President Barack Obama and Mrs. Michelle Obama as apes that was shared from President Trump's social media account. This is not a political statement, but a moral one founded in our Irish history and Catholic faith.

We recognize this tactic because it was used against us as Irish Americans.

As an organization founded to combat attacks against Irish immigrants, we know intimately the weaponization of simian imagery. For generations, our ancestors were caricatured as apes in newspapers, political cartoons, and popular culture; portrayed as violent, primitive, and less than human. The influential cartoonist Thomas Nast, whose work appeared in Harper's Weekly throughout the latter half of the 19th century, repeatedly drew Irish immigrants with pronounced simian features equating them with violent primates. These depictions were used to justify discrimination, exclusion, and violence. They stripped our people of dignity and humanity.

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I'm sure I speak for many Irish out there as WE are the LAST people you want to have pissed off at YOU.

Good luck dumpy.

The tide just turned you idiot!

ERIN GO BRAUGH btw!



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Seems the Ancient Order of Hibernians has condemned dump (Original Post) CountAllVotes 13 hrs ago OP
fuck you NASTY CountAllVotes 12 hrs ago #1
My mother's family dropped the O and for a time changed the spelling to make it sound Protestant Historic NY 10 hrs ago #10
Very sad lives CountAllVotes 36 min ago #13
My paternal great grandparents both came from Ireland Rhiannon12866 12 hrs ago #2
The Irish are fine patriots IMO CountAllVotes 12 hrs ago #3
Kudos to both your grandfather and your husband! And I sure agree that the Irish are great patriots! Rhiannon12866 11 hrs ago #4
All of the men in my family served CountAllVotes 11 hrs ago #5
Same thing in my family, my Dad and all my uncles Rhiannon12866 11 hrs ago #9
They were also infuriated last year over his stupid Pope meme Tanuki 11 hrs ago #6
Maith sibh! pat_k 11 hrs ago #7
I'm grateful for This... But I have to Cha 11 hrs ago #8
Too busy calling LGBTQ Irish an abomination Prairie Gates 28 min ago #15
My great grandparents... róisín_dubh 10 hrs ago #11
I am set to go if I care to CountAllVotes 29 min ago #14
Well, crap, I didn't know that about Nast. I guess most of those cartoons didn't survive, unlike his Tammany Hall ones. eppur_se_muova 10 hrs ago #12

CountAllVotes

(22,146 posts)
1. fuck you NASTY
Sun Feb 8, 2026, 12:27 AM
12 hrs ago

Great name for a fine racist like you Nasty pants.



When my old uncle died in San Francisco at the age of 42, he left behind a wife and four children. There were more, but they all died of T.B. at that time. He was the son of an immigrant that fled Ireland during the Great Hunger from Co. Tipperary, Ireland. He was full-blooded Irish as were all of his children.

His wife knew not what to do with no income so she worked as a maid for the rich San Franciscans in town for many years until she died in the 1920's. Some life it was in the era of NO IRISH NEED APPLY. Even my great grandfather, my uncle's brother decided to do the unthinkable and that was to drop the "O" off of my family's surname. He is found in and old directory with it missing. How sad.

The Irish tried their best to keep their blood between other Irish. His sister lived to be quite old and I was named after her. I was told that when my father married my mother she was glad as she said that "new blood was needed" in the family.

Was she right? Perhaps she was and she sure wanted to leave behind this type of crap that Irish were and still are subjected to even today. I've had enough of it too! How about you. Don't the Irish deserve some restitution too? Don't they?





Historic NY

(39,806 posts)
10. My mother's family dropped the O and for a time changed the spelling to make it sound Protestant
Sun Feb 8, 2026, 02:33 AM
10 hrs ago

they lived in NY in a pile of shacks and cottages near 5th Ave. until 1892 then they moved. Majority died of TB .My ggfather end up in NY right in the middle of the Civil War draft riots. I recently found two pictures from the NYPD and the 1890 census showing the the shacks, and an artists drawing .It wasn't easy 8 children died by 1875,
They came from Tipperary too. A great aunt went an rescued my mother when she was 8 and got her out of NY and a cold water flat packed with 12 people.


"Angela's Ashes" by FRank McCourt and his familys experience in the 20s and 30s they ended back up in the Old Sod.

CountAllVotes

(22,146 posts)
13. Very sad lives
Sun Feb 8, 2026, 12:31 PM
36 min ago

My late husband was from a family of 10 children. His father had died and left a pregnant wife behind with 8 of them.

They lived in a thatched cottage in Galway and there were the 10 kids, his mother, his uncle and also his grandparents that lived through the Great Hunger and died in the 1940's at the ages of 104 and 106 years respectively.

All of these people in a two room cottage!

When he got older, him and his brother rebuilt the family home and left. They ended up in New York and gradually found their way west to San Francisco which is where my own family was.

My family sailed around the Cape Horn to San Francisco during the Gold Rush years. I've found stories about them in the old San Francisco newspapers which are now online.

Its all right there, obituaries and marriage records.

Many of them were bookkeepers and a few were carpenters like my late husband was.

They had hard lives and managed to go on. How I'll never know.

My father was a proud Irishman. He was Catholic, but only to a point.

I have a few cousins left in San Francisco that are 2nd and 3rd.

As for my mother's family, she was basically from Appalachia and was also Irish and a few other things; an American is what she was.

We go on and continue to fight. That is because we must and it is because of this racism towards the Irish that obviously still exists today. How sad is this exactly?



Rhiannon12866

(252,221 posts)
2. My paternal great grandparents both came from Ireland
Sun Feb 8, 2026, 12:57 AM
12 hrs ago

And when WWI broke out, their two eldest sons signed up together to fight for their country. My grandfather brought ammunition to the front by horseback (I have his discharge papers which say he was a good horseman). And his brother (my great uncle) was assigned to fight at the front and was awarded the Silver Star.

CountAllVotes

(22,146 posts)
3. The Irish are fine patriots IMO
Sun Feb 8, 2026, 01:05 AM
12 hrs ago

My grandfather was in WWI as well. He enlisted with his father at his side watching his every move. He got out quickly as he accidentally cut off part of his right hand and it left him fairly disabled and he sure couldn't fire off a gun any longer.

My late husband came to this country in 1956 and he promptly enlisted in the U.S. Army. He was set to get out but was extended because of the Cuban Missile Crisis and he was given a commendation for his extra service by JFK. My husband was related to the Kennedy family by blood so maybe there was a bit of JFK in him I've often thought.

He was a fine patriot and he loved America a lot more that some two-bit MAGA wearing a red hat with a beer in one hand and nothing in the other one for they are LOSERS, that's right, LOSERS, all of them.

None of them had to fight in Vietnam wars. None of them even know when WWI was!

To hell with the Nasty pants idiots. They have nothing at all to offer America!



Rhiannon12866

(252,221 posts)
4. Kudos to both your grandfather and your husband! And I sure agree that the Irish are great patriots!
Sun Feb 8, 2026, 01:19 AM
11 hrs ago

Though I am so sorry that your grandfather was injured. I never did know my grandfather since he died of a heart attack (coincidentally with his brother also at his side) when my Dad was only 12. However all of his three sons served their country, my Dad in the Navy as radio operator on the aircraft carrier USS Ranger and the younger two in the Army, one sent to Germany and the other to Italy. My grandmother said that she was always grateful that none of her sons were the right age to serve in war.

And you're right, none of the MAGA crowd has any idea of the wars this country fought - especially those who embrace Nazi ideas! Don't they teach history in schools anymore?? In 10th grade I took an entire year of World History in which both World Wars were certainly covered extensively...

Here's to the courageous Irish!

CountAllVotes

(22,146 posts)
5. All of the men in my family served
Sun Feb 8, 2026, 01:27 AM
11 hrs ago

My father was another great one, a Sargent in the Marine Corps serving in the tropics during WWII. He as in the same platoon as the Code Talkers were in. He had quite a few war stories, but nothing awful.

Dad referred to men that didn't serve as "Office boys". He had no respect for any of them!

The red hats of today were the "Office boys" of yesteryear!



Rhiannon12866

(252,221 posts)
9. Same thing in my family, my Dad and all my uncles
Sun Feb 8, 2026, 02:03 AM
11 hrs ago

My Dad was only 13 when WWII started and his two brothers were a lot younger, so they all served post WWII. And kudos to your father, sounds like he must have had some great stories. My Dad did as well, serving an an aircraft carrier where planes had to land on a moving "runway" and his experiences on rough seas in the South Pacific. There was one time he had to lash himself to a stationary table in the bridge.

And he knew many who had served while he was in college since they were on the GI Bill. He had a roommate who he remained friends with who had lost half of his arm in the war - lengthwise. And he was very jumpy during the winter season here in the Northeast with snowplows hitting the curbs outside. But he made it, got married and came to visit.

Tanuki

(16,356 posts)
6. They were also infuriated last year over his stupid Pope meme
Sun Feb 8, 2026, 01:46 AM
11 hrs ago
https://www.irishecho.com/2025/5/hibernians-condemn-trump-pope-photo
"The Ancient Order of Hibernians has "strongly" objected to President Donald J. Trump’s "recent offensive social media post depicting himself in papal vestments, seated on the Chair of St. Peter, via an AI-generated image. Releasing this during the sacred period of mourning for Pope Francis is not only grossly inappropriate, it is a blatant affront to Catholics and an attack on their belief in the sanctity of the Papacy."

In a statement, AOH National President Sean Pender said: "That the President of the United States would digitally insert himself into the role of the Vicar of Christ while millions of faithful mourn a pope who embodied humility, compassion, and quiet strength is behavior beneath the dignity of the U.S. Presidency. We would expect this kind of juvenile humor from the Cartoon Network, not the Oval Office.

"We remind the President that the United States has a long and shameful history of anti-Catholicism, from the Know Nothings to the Ku Klux Klan.

"We should not be enhancing the defamatory images of Thomas Nast with 21st-century technology. This incident comes amid a troubling climate for American Catholics, who have endured a surge in attacks on churches and sacred spaces—over 400 incidents in the past year alone—and were subject to FBI surveillance in their places of worship. At a time when Catholics feel increasingly under cultural, physical, and institutional attack, the last thing they need is to see their sacred beliefs defamed and exploited for political theater.".... (more)

Cha

(317,722 posts)
8. I'm grateful for This... But I have to
Sun Feb 8, 2026, 01:59 AM
11 hrs ago

ask... What the Hell were the Ancient Order of Hibernians thinking Before This?

Traitor is a PEDO, Rapist, Racist Felon, that tried to Overturn Our Government on Jan6.. and an Inveterate LIAR.. and a Homicidal Maniac.

Ironic, it took Perverted Bottom Feeder Showing his Depraved Racist stripes at Pres Obama and Michell, to Change the Ancient Order of Hibernians minds.

You know Obama is of Irish Heritage...

https://www.irishstar.com/news/ireland-news/barack-obama-irish-ancestry-michelle-35892116

Mahalo, CountAllVotes

róisín_dubh

(12,264 posts)
11. My great grandparents...
Sun Feb 8, 2026, 02:38 AM
10 hrs ago

On my dad’s side all came over in the early 1900s. All names were chanced from Mac to Mc for some reason. My entire family were fierce republicans and hated that they had to leave Ireland. They were not treated well, but some of my ancestors came over with money, so I reckon that helped.
I’ve begged the Irish government for years for a passport, but no dice.

CountAllVotes

(22,146 posts)
14. I am set to go if I care to
Sun Feb 8, 2026, 12:38 PM
29 min ago

I have the passports and the citizenship paper. I've been set to go for over 30 years now.

Things are tough in Ireland these days as housing is scant and they really don't have room for many more people is the claim. They taken in many from other countries like Africa, Somalia, India, etc.

There is a lot more crime these days and it seems that old Ireland is gone in many areas.

I really cannot afford to move there as I don't have the funds for it. I don't know where I'd go. What is left of my family is in Kilkenny and I have a sister-in-law in Kildare.

No one has extended a welcoming hand towards me so I'd be on own which is a poor idea for a disabled woman pushing 70 years old.

Oh well ...

I will continue to keep my passports up-to-date regardless.

I am proud to be an Irish citizen and an American citizen as well!



eppur_se_muova

(41,316 posts)
12. Well, crap, I didn't know that about Nast. I guess most of those cartoons didn't survive, unlike his Tammany Hall ones.
Sun Feb 8, 2026, 02:42 AM
10 hrs ago

Disappointing to learn about things like that. Most or our historical figures really were creatures of their times, with all that implies, good and bad.

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