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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forums"If ICE Pulls You Over, Say These 4 Words Immediately (LAWYER Explains)"
"usonian
(24,219 posts)Don't say: "I'm watching a 12 minute video advising me what to say"
1. Copy this card.

Source: https://www.cfiaus.com/rights/know-your-rights-2/
Also at the site:

2. Print this article and read it tonight. (It's really hard to print videos)
https://workingclassunity.com/know-your-rights/ice-pulls-you-over
It might fit on a double sided piece of paper to carry and read quickly.
It is totally to the point, no wasted anything.
The article has links to other situations: in public, at work, at home.
artemisia1
(1,595 posts)you to say as the attorney in the video makes clear as officers will often ask, "Since you don't have anything to hide, you don't mind if we look in (search) your car.
"No" can mean "you don't mind", "yes" can mean you "consent".
Your cards are useful, but the video is essential.
usonian
(24,219 posts)maybe later.
Again, videos have to be memorized. Perhaps someone can summarize the transcript.
canetoad
(20,453 posts)But I'd be interested to know the four words. Unfortunately I'm so hard of hearing that videos are impossible.
BTW - your link to pastebin in post 1 is broken.
usonian
(24,219 posts)This one?
https://pastebin.com/raw/iVMJkXKJ
They have been rejecting posts!! I sometimes have to use an alternate posting site.
Blocking your location?
That's why I grab a transcript now and then.
People like Mark Romano take 25 minutes to say the proverbial sentence worth of info.
Were they on the cards I posted?
I mixed up my links, but all good now.
Pluvious
(5,323 posts)Answer with: "I do NOT consent to a search"
Cheers
Prairie_Seagull
(4,630 posts)I believe I would say 'Don't' instead of 'Do Not'. 'Not' could be erased/deleted and one would be left with 'do'.
I do consent to a search.
I don't consent to a search.
AI can be used to do some weird shit.
canetoad
(20,453 posts)You never know what nefarious editing goes on these days.
ChicagoTeamster
(636 posts)Upthevibe
(10,117 posts)Thank you so much for posting this. I watched the entire video.
artemisia1
(1,595 posts)drray23
(8,660 posts)Ice will do what the fuck they want and break the law. If you stay silent during a traffic stop for example, they will drag you out of the car and beat you up.
For each of these rights listed the there, we have cases where ice has broken them. They broke and entered into homes with no warrants, arbitrary pulled people out of their cars, rammed into cars, threw people to the ground who were just there, etc...
This might work if you are white, forget about it if you are Latino. Same goes for those videos of white guys showing how to deal with a police stop. Try to refuse to lower your window as a black person and see how it goes.
