Grading State Gun Laws

[Scuba]

[pipoman]

1. The Brady Bunch..

Known for their twisting of truth and out-right lies...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_violence_in_the_United_States_by_state

[Scuba]

2. "Homicides" and "deaths" are two different things. Look it up if you don't believe me.

[pipoman]

3. Maybe, just a twisting of fact..

the fact appears to be that 3 states they love, Cali, Md, and IL are all in the top 10 for highest "gun violence" rates, and several of the states with the lowest "gun violence" rates also have Brady bad grades..NH, the lowest "gun violence", has a D, Vermont, the second lowest has a Brady F, The 4th lowest, WY, F, the 5th lowest, ND, F, the 6th lowest, ME, F, the 7th lowest, SD, F, The 9th lowest, UT, F, the 10th lowest ID, F.

No, the Bradys are known for this. They constantly use the term "gun violence", but they can't use actual "gun violence" stats in this map because it proves them insignificant and their ratings useless..

[Scuba]

4. Does introducing a new term (e.g, "gun violence) to the discussion constitute "twisting facts"?

I'm confused as to why you are trying to refute this chart, first by introducing and trying to discredit "the Brady bunch", then by introducing a new term.

What's your point?

Do you have any evidence that the "gun death rates" in this simplistic chart are inaccurate? Do you have any evidence that the grading in the chart is inaccurate?

Or are you just here to try to undermine any effort to get America's gun problem under control?

[pipoman]

5. Just injecting a bit of truth

The Brady's are statistical gymnasts. Why didn't you post a link to the source of the map? "Gun death rates" includes everything from suicide to police shootings..crime rates are what people believe they are seeing when they read this silly map...just pointing out the fallacy here...why doesn't Brady publish a map showing gun homicide or gun violence with their silly rating system? because it would prove them irrelevant as they are.

[Scuba]

7. You're projecting your reading comprehension difficulties to the rest of the population.

I don't speak for Brady, whoever he is, so you might ask him about what he publishes.

[pipoman]

9. Did you make this map?

If not how about a link?

[Comrade_McKenzie]

6. It is the "Brady Campaign," get it right or get the fuck out... nt

[pipoman]

10. LOL

[Recursion]

8. I see you left out DC (nt)

[Chorophyll]

11. DC happens to be surrounded by a country full of guns,

and you don't need a passport to get in and out.

[Recursion]

13. Two states full of guns, with laxer gun laws, and lower gun crime rates (nt)

[Chorophyll]

14. And no one stopping anyone from those states at the DC border.

[Chorophyll]

12. That's a boatload of fail, but you should add a link.

The gun lovers will devour you either way, but please don't aid and abet them.

[tradecenter]

15. Glad to see that the brady bunch has given my state an F.

Means we're doing something right.