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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI think Thune just told the felon he doesn't have the votes to go nuclear to get his SAVE act passed.
And the felon is having a MAJOR tantrum!
Trump: There will be Voter I.D. for the Midterm Elections, whether approved by Congress or not!
https://www.democracydocket.com/news-alerts/trump-there-will-be-voter-i-d-for-the-midterm-elections-whether-approved-by-congress-or-not/
Such an order would likely be blocked by courts, but if it stood, it would stand to disenfranchise millions of eligible voters.
Following the Houses passage of the Safeguard American Voter Eligibility Act (SAVE) America Act Wednesday, Trump took to Truth Social late Friday afternoon to suggest that if the Senate doesnt send him the bill, hell take unilateral action. Senate Democrats have said theyre committed to preventing the measure from becoming law.
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I suspect this EO will never actually materialize. It has the ring of other angry threats to do this or that "shortly" that have gone by the wayside. Of course, sycophants may come up with some bullshit EO to placate him, but if they do, I would be SHOCKED if it weren't universally rejected by the courts -- including SCOTUS.
Wednesdays
(21,991 posts)Response to pat_k (Original post)
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AZ8theist
(7,169 posts)Executive Orders apply to federal agencies ONLY.
Elections are run by the states. Executive orders have no standing on state-run elections.
However, a directive on the feds can have various coersive effects on states:
1. They can influence state actions due to federal funding of certain programs. In other words, coersion.
2. Doturd cannot "create" new law through an EO. So his threat is like himself, devoid of substance.
3. A blatant attempt at election rigging.
4. Unconstitutional. The election process is well established. However, with this SC, who knows where it will go.
And finally, for all the Reich Wing bluster about "states rights", attempting to "nationalize" elections to prevent his bloodbath in the midterms is just another weak attempt at political survival. He is weak, demented, and incredibly stupid. This will not help his cause.
(I'm not a lawyer, but I play one on my own computer...)
NBachers
(19,296 posts)AZ8theist
(7,169 posts)ShazamIam
(3,062 posts)control to the states. It is unfortunate that we can't rely on the U.S. Supreme Court.
Trueblue1968
(19,165 posts)Trump is mentally ill.
pat_k
(12,885 posts)Sycophants may well come up with some bullshit EO that purports to impose a national voter ID and Documentary Proof of Citizenship "law" to placate the maniac felon, but if they do, it will go the same way the attempt to prosecute members of congress for stating a legal fact went. Nowhere.
The district courts would undoubtedly laugh their heads off at an EO that purported to somehow override state election laws. And I do not see SCOTUS overturning on this one.
I would be shocked if they did (but we have seen such shocks, so...)
Summaries of the current state of affairs on voter ID and proof of citizenship:
https://ballotpedia.org/Voter_identification_laws_by_state
https://ballotpedia.org/Proof_of_citizenship_requirements_for_voter_registration_by_state
eppur_se_muova
(41,424 posts)pat_k
(12,885 posts)In case you missed Ian McClellan's performance of "The Stranger's Case" on Colbert, it is must watch stuff.
https://youtube.com/shorts/Nwd6vcfR3HI
About The Stranger's Case:
On May 1, 1517 now referred to as Evil May Day riots broke out in London as a response to an influx of immigrant workers. Eighty years later, a play was written that includes some of these events. The play, called Sir Thomas More, wasn't published or performed at the time, quite possibly because it was censored. This speech from the play is delivered to the rampaging crowd by Thomas More, who was sheriff of London at the time. Thomas More asks the rioters to imagine themselves in the shoes of the immigrants they're attacking.
