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gab13by13

(31,749 posts)
Tue Feb 17, 2026, 07:56 AM 3 hrs ago

Anyone Listening To What The Sheriff In The Nancy Gutherie Case Is Saying

Right wing media says it may have been a home invasion gone bad - the sheriff says no it wasn’t, it was a kidnapping.

The right wing media is saying the perpetrator was an amateur getting his photo caught on the door camera - the sheriff says he wanted his photo caught.

The sheriff came out yesterday and made a shocking statement, at least to me, he said the motive may have been revenge. What does he know to make that statement?

They find a black glove that may have been worn by the perp, the sheriff doesn’t give it to the FBI to test the DNA, he sends it to a private firm, why?

Krasnov makes a public statement he wants the perp to get the death penalty, why, is he covering his own ass?

Something is not right with this kidnapping, the sheriff has to keep correcting the media, like family involvement.

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Anyone Listening To What The Sheriff In The Nancy Gutherie Case Is Saying (Original Post) gab13by13 3 hrs ago OP
Yeah, something's fishy about this case (n/t) PJMcK 2 hrs ago #1
Because of this? babsbunny 2 hrs ago #2
You read my mind gab13by13 2 hrs ago #3
OMG. Trueblue Texan 1 hr ago #10
Whoah. Yeah, that's probably it. tinrobot 59 min ago #17
Wow! GCG 2 hrs ago #4
Do a lot of people wear gloves in Tuscon? milestogo 1 hr ago #9
Cooks and chefs wear black latex gloves routinely now Prairie Gates 58 min ago #18
Those are thin, lightweight gloves. milestogo 19 min ago #26
RW media will rarely tell facts, evidence, truths, unless it completely favors them.............. Lovie777 2 hrs ago #5
It's simple AverageOldGuy 2 hrs ago #6
Wonder how many times, gab13by13 2 hrs ago #7
Kash Patel's FBI investigates what it wants to investigate and quashes investigations Ocelot II 1 hr ago #11
Why is Trumpsky saying anything about possible sentencing? Harker 1 hr ago #8
Indeed...if a family member or somebody against the DP has information Prairie Gates 55 min ago #19
That's an angle I hadn't considered. Harker 48 min ago #21
I have lots of Questions Historic NY 1 hr ago #12
This message was self-deleted by its author Joinfortmill 1 hr ago #13
Ka$h Patel Kid Berwyn 1 hr ago #14
Ashleigh Banfield has just been plain weird about insisting it's the son-in-law. hamsterjill 1 hr ago #15
The family has been cleared, but honestly, I thought it was him, too. I still have my doubts about him. Joinfortmill 49 min ago #20
I've been following Brian Entin...He seems to have access to a lot of information on this sad story. Joinfortmill 59 min ago #16
If I were that sheriff, area51 45 min ago #22
Our own local police departments don't trust our federal criminal justice dept. Baitball Blogger 42 min ago #23
That's what's happening. bucolic_frolic 23 min ago #25
What if the kidnappers just happen to be MS13 and Haitians? JohnnyRingo 38 min ago #24
The sheriff didn't wait on the Feds, gab13by13 15 min ago #29
Maybe the sheriff doesn't trust Old Crank 16 min ago #27
Gosh, the right wing media has an agenda? C_U_L8R 16 min ago #28
Just imagine for a minute what would happen, gab13by13 10 min ago #30

gab13by13

(31,749 posts)
3. You read my mind
Tue Feb 17, 2026, 08:08 AM
2 hrs ago

Everyone here would get a lot of hides the way we speak about Krasnov, but he is so evil they really aren’t unfounded conspiracy theories. There is no bottom to his depravity, including murder, he even said he could shoot people.

tinrobot

(12,010 posts)
17. Whoah. Yeah, that's probably it.
Tue Feb 17, 2026, 10:03 AM
59 min ago

This is not much different than Russians "falling" out of third story windows.

GCG

(50 posts)
4. Wow!
Tue Feb 17, 2026, 08:14 AM
2 hrs ago

Who takes a body with them after a home invasion "gone bad"?

They found several gloves in the area, the closest one was found about 2 miles from her home, and looked similar to the glove that was worn by the suspect caught on the door camera.

This morning it was announced that the family was cleared by the Pima County Sheriff.

Prairie Gates

(7,614 posts)
18. Cooks and chefs wear black latex gloves routinely now
Tue Feb 17, 2026, 10:04 AM
58 min ago

They also are known to throw them out their car windows from time to time.

Lovie777

(22,377 posts)
5. RW media will rarely tell facts, evidence, truths, unless it completely favors them..............
Tue Feb 17, 2026, 08:19 AM
2 hrs ago

RWers main tool is to deceive, lie, do what ever to keep people in trusting them.

Colbert interviewed a Democrat but CBS did not air it in fear of the FCC. It was not fear, it was to make sure they control the narrative.

Free speech for me but not for thee.

Again the court will have to intervene.

As to Nancy Gurtherie, yes, it foul revengeful shit going on and the F.B.I. and the DOJ are at the center of it.

AverageOldGuy

(3,606 posts)
6. It's simple
Tue Feb 17, 2026, 08:45 AM
2 hrs ago

Savannah Guthrie did important interview(s) with Epstein survivors.

Someone in MAGA world decided to strike back.

Trump knows about it. He is as guilty in this case as he is in Jan 6.

The Pima County sheriff figured it out in about 30 seconds.

gab13by13

(31,749 posts)
7. Wonder how many times,
Tue Feb 17, 2026, 08:55 AM
2 hrs ago

when the FBI gets involved in a case, that the local sheriff did not give evidence to the FBI to be analyzed for DNA, but sent it to a private lab instead?

I bet not many times if any. I heard a retired FBI agent, had to be a Magat because he was on FOX, say what the sheriff did was wrong sending that out to be analyzed, time is of the essence.

There are many examples of the media leading this case in the wrong direction.

This morning the media is publicizing that the FBI is taking photos of people to 40 gun shops to see if they recognize anyone who bought a gun there. That doesn't even make sense. What would make more sense is to get the Walmart videos of people buying that cheap holster and the backpack.

They need to get the people from the TV show The First 48, the investigators from Tulsa.

Kash Patel should be in jail and not the head of the FBI.

Ocelot II

(129,876 posts)
11. Kash Patel's FBI investigates what it wants to investigate and quashes investigations
Tue Feb 17, 2026, 09:38 AM
1 hr ago

of matters The Boss doesn't want investigated. Like the murders of Pretti and Good. The FBI refuses to turn over to the state any evidence it has collected in order to be sure Trump's murderous goons aren't prosecuted.

Harker

(17,612 posts)
8. Why is Trumpsky saying anything about possible sentencing?
Tue Feb 17, 2026, 09:25 AM
1 hr ago

That's clearly an act that can adversely affect the course of the investigation.

Prairie Gates

(7,614 posts)
19. Indeed...if a family member or somebody against the DP has information
Tue Feb 17, 2026, 10:07 AM
55 min ago

Trump's spouting off might dissuade them from giving information. Remember that Ted Kaczynski's brother wanted a no death penalty assurance before going to the Feds with his suspicion.

Harker

(17,612 posts)
21. That's an angle I hadn't considered.
Tue Feb 17, 2026, 10:13 AM
48 min ago

I stopped thinking of 'how' after it occurred to me that a hypothetical kidnapper might be pushed to a point of thinking there was 'nothing left to lose.'

Response to gab13by13 (Original post)

hamsterjill

(17,243 posts)
15. Ashleigh Banfield has just been plain weird about insisting it's the son-in-law.
Tue Feb 17, 2026, 09:58 AM
1 hr ago

Last edited Tue Feb 17, 2026, 10:30 AM - Edit history (1)

I've only seen blurbs because I don't like to watch her, but she's never provided anything more than "a source told her" as evidence. She's been insistent.

The sheriff has now plainly, bluntly and completely said there were no family members involved.

Joinfortmill

(20,596 posts)
20. The family has been cleared, but honestly, I thought it was him, too. I still have my doubts about him.
Tue Feb 17, 2026, 10:13 AM
49 min ago

Joinfortmill

(20,596 posts)
16. I've been following Brian Entin...He seems to have access to a lot of information on this sad story.
Tue Feb 17, 2026, 10:03 AM
59 min ago

area51

(12,611 posts)
22. If I were that sheriff,
Tue Feb 17, 2026, 10:17 AM
45 min ago

I woudn't trust Ka$h Patel's fbi to do a DNA analysis, either.

Baitball Blogger

(51,964 posts)
23. Our own local police departments don't trust our federal criminal justice dept.
Tue Feb 17, 2026, 10:20 AM
42 min ago

We've got your back, Sheriff!

JohnnyRingo

(20,688 posts)
24. What if the kidnappers just happen to be MS13 and Haitians?
Tue Feb 17, 2026, 10:24 AM
38 min ago

Wouldn't that be a lucky coincidence for the MAGAs? Especially if everyone ends up dead.
It would be full speed ahead on deportations, and much of America would be behind it. It seems the Sheriff doesn't trust the feds right now either so we may not know what they found..

I was thinking about this a couple weeks ago
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100220998995

gab13by13

(31,749 posts)
29. The sheriff didn't wait on the Feds,
Tue Feb 17, 2026, 10:47 AM
15 min ago

he had his men gather evidence for 20 hours both inside and outside the house. He sent the black glove to a private lab for DNA analysis.

This sheriff isn't going to get railroaded although there is a campaign going on in the media saying he botched the investigation, more like, he stopped Patel from rigging the investigation.

gab13by13

(31,749 posts)
30. Just imagine for a minute what would happen,
Tue Feb 17, 2026, 10:52 AM
10 min ago

if Patel's FBI came out and said the DNA on the glove was from some poor undocumented fella who happened to physically look like the real perp.

Krasnov would be demanding more money for ICE.

The sheriff may have prevented this from happening by having his men investigate the crime scene and by sending the glove to a private lab.

The MSM is trying to mislead us, trying to blame the sheriff.

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