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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsEpstein has started to feel like Watergate to me, yet very different
I'm old enough to remember going through Watergate. It now feels to me that the Epstein stuff has reached the stage of "inevitable unfolding." At some point, Woodward & Bernstein's unfolding of the Watergate story and the Congressional investigation of it reached the point that it was coming out inevitably.
We've reached that point with Epstein. And yet there's a weird difference: We already know the essence of this story. Trump and gazillions of rich powerful men raped, abused, and subjugated untold numbers of children over a period of decades. A worldwide conspiracy of pedophiles ran rampant for decades. The unfolding now involves filling in the details, identifying the rest of the conspirators, and having some consequences.
Consequences are now happening for the pedophile conspirators in Europe, worldwide, and somewhat in the business world, but not for Trump or other Americans. The reason is big differences between 1970s America and today's America. In the 1970s Woodward and Bernstein worked for a journalistic outfit, the Washington Post. Today, the Washington Post is the Bezos Propaganda Rag. In the 1970s, there were lots of journalistic outfits; today there is Plutocracy Pravda, serving the interests of their billionaire owners.
In the 1970s also, there were still some sane and honest Republicans in Congress, people like Howard Baker. Today nearly all Republicans in Congress are subservient vassals of the Pedophile-in-Chief. But looking at the unredacted parts is causing cracks in that stone wall. Even for otherwise depraved Republicans, the details of the pedophilia are just a bridge too far. That's part of what makes the unfolding seem inevitable now.
Even Alex Jones and Steve Bannon are jumping ship. The unfolding is inevitable. Hold on to your hats.
Freddie
(10,080 posts)The 1974 Republican Party forced Nixon to resign over cheating at Tiddlywinks, and todays Republican Party will defend the rape of children to the very end.
leftstreet
(39,685 posts)They trusted that the system was working for them. White, middle class people I mean
usonian
(24,307 posts)The biggest scandal of the sort in all of history.
Many, many wealthy people caught in that web, and now the entire world is participating in its unraveling.
Unofficially, data mongers all over the internet, and officially, Poland and France as starters.
The money trail is just now being explored, for example by a suit against Bank of America, and by Senator Ron Wyden.
Ask any 5 "men on the street" if they were involved.

And 5.
I can't even gather all the links I have found in one place. Start here
https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=21024443
Implications are gigantic in number, and I can't imagine the atrocities uncovered and yet to be uncovered.
Blackmail victims? Who behaves like a blackmail victim?
Every known "tech bro bigshot"
Every damn zombie lemming GOP legislator.
(not accusing, but condemning their complicity with Der Fuhrer's hate, grift and death machine)
Midnight Writer
(25,224 posts)Spence was a highly connected Washington lobbyist who threw lavish parties with lots of drugs and prostitutes in his DC apartment.
He filmed government staffers in "compromising" situations, then leaned on the staffers to influence their bosses.
Spence was very successful and had top connections in the Bush Administration.
After Spence was "found out" and the publicity around his operation exploded, Spence committed suicide. The investigation (by the Bush Administration, naturally) was closed shortly after. We the people never did find out the extent of the operation, who all was involved, if there was foreign involvement, how far the corruption went.
History may not repeat itself, but it does neatly rhyme sometimes.
mwmisses4289
(3,701 posts)Makes you wonder if spence had ties to epstein? Or if he was operating a different racket and had to be eliminated because he was poaching on someone else's territory? Not sure i really want to know, but it does open up some curious speculatoin.
OC375
(578 posts)From the looks of it, there's enough in there to potentially rewrite leadership, across the board, in Western nations from politics and industry to influencers and entertainment, even our legal and justice systems. God help us if this rot is in our schools, religions and charitable organizations - then there's nothing else to lean on for help on either. Entire companies and institutions could disappear or greatly diminish in influence and trust, even if they weren't the problem. All it takes is one to get their nuts slammed in the door... who implicates another, who implicates another... It could be big.
And of course the inevitable questions... Who fills the voids? What will happen next?