brainwash the people who's belts don't go through all the loops. My wingnut MIL is one. She honestly thinks our entire fiscal problem is due to the people cheating on welfare.

No Compromise

(373 posts)

19. they must be forced to face a chart of Government spending, this is just ridiculous

Reply to Laura PourMeADrink (Reply #15)

Mon Dec 31, 2012, 01:50 PM

Dec 2012

80 billion for welfare which they bitch about endlessly,

but $80 Billion war supplemental- no problem

$60 Billion for Sandy cleanup efforts that real victims will never get a piece of- no problem

This assholes need to be forced to feel shame for their stupidity.

When they wake up to how their own party has been banking on their stupidity and blind following= they should really be mad as hell!!

Angry Dragon

(36,693 posts)

16. according to the election of 2012 there was no bush presidency

Reply to malaise (Original post)

Mon Dec 31, 2012, 12:54 PM

Dec 2012

there was Clinton and then Obama

snot

(10,529 posts)

17. I think every DU'er should read this:

Reply to malaise (Original post)

Mon Dec 31, 2012, 12:56 PM

Dec 2012

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article33471.htm :

"{W}hy do politicians only create new spending power for the purpose of waging war and destroying property, not to build or repair bridges, roads and other public infrastructure? Why should the government tax employees for future retirement payouts, but not Wall Street for similar user fees and financial insurance to build up a fund to pay for future bank over-lending crises? For that matter, why doesn’t the U.S. Government print the money to pay for Social Security and medical care, just as it created new debt for the $13 trillion post-2008 bank bailout?

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"There is no inherent need to single out any particular area of public spending as causing a budget deficit if it is not pre-funded. It is a travesty of progressive tax policy to only oblige workers whose wages are less than (at present) $105,000 to pay this FICA wage withholding, exempting higher earnings, capital gains, rental income and profits. The raison d’être for taxing the 99% for Social Security and Medicare is simply to avoid taxing wealth, by falling on low wage income at a much higher rate than that of the wealthy. This is not how the original U.S. income tax was created at its inception in 1913. During its early years only the wealthiest 1% of the population had to file a return. There were few loopholes, and capital gains were taxed at the same rate as earned income.

"The government’s seashore insurance program, for instance, recently incurred a $1 trillion liability to rebuild the private beaches and homes that Hurricane Sandy washed out. Why should this insurance subsidy at below-commercial rates for the wealthy minority who live in this scenic high-risk property be treated as normal spending, but not Social Security? Why save in advance by a special wage tax to pay for these programs that benefit the general population, but not levy a similar “user fee” tax to pay for flood insurance for beachfront homes or war? And while we are at it, why not save another $13 trillion in advance to pay for the next bailout of Wall Street when debt deflation causes another crisis to drain the budget?"

Much more at the link.