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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsQuite a few DUers said he would lose on matters tariffs
A great day
Still Id love to hear from Mike Johnson, the tool and other ReTHUGs.
The State of the Swamp speech should be more fun or he could croak over the weekend.
Walleye
(44,256 posts)malaise
(294,706 posts)Rec
mobeau69
(12,290 posts)LetMyPeopleVote
(177,573 posts)I listened to the oral arguments and did not think that this would be that close of a decision but this is a very divided opinion which is why it took so long to come down.
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I agree with Joyce Vance that it will take some caffeine to get through these opinions

DemocratSinceBirth
(101,751 posts)Alito and Thomas would rubber stamp anything Trump did.
LetMyPeopleVote
(177,573 posts)This case involves tariffs being authorized under a statute that never mentions tariffs. This should have been an easy descision.
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We discussed this case extensively ahead of oral argument on November 5, last year. Congress has the power to impose tariffs. But it has, in some cases, loaned them to the president, in specific grants with limitations. Here, the Court considered this administrations claim that the president had the power to impose tariffs, without any limitations, under the International Emergency Economic Powers Act (IEEPA). The administration contended that the president has that power because the statute says that the president can regulate the importation of foreign goods if there is any unusual and extraordinary threat that poses a national emergency......
This is not a case about tariffs in general or about whether they are good policy. Its a case about specific tariffs that President Trump imposed in February and whether he had the statutory authority to impose them
We studied the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Federal Circuits decision that rejected Trumps effort to impose tariffs using IEEPA (I-E-Pa), the 1977 International Emergency Economic Powers Act, for the very simple reason that the Act, unlike other statutes that do give a president the right to impose tariffs, doesnt mention tariffs at all. It does not give the president any authority to impose them under the statute that he has expressly said he used to do so. This is the kind of textualist argument conservative justices have backed in other cases, and to abandon that approach here would be a sharp and hypocritical departure for them. Last term, Justice Gorsuch wrote that the justices primary focus should be on the text of the statute.
The Constitution gives the power to impose taxes, which includes tariffs, to Congress. Because IEEPA doesnt extend that power to the president, his use of it here is just a power grab, the kind of practice the Supreme Court should push back against if it intends to remain relevant to the American experiment. The Federal Circuits decision pointed out that while other laws expressly give the president the power to impose tariffs, IEEPA does not. Congress knows how to give the president the power to impose tariffs when it wants to and because it did not do so here, that should be the end of the inquiry. The administration should lose here
Thankfully, it did.
Under basic statutory construction, this should have been a 9-0 decision.
Unwind Your Mind
(2,338 posts)That we have a new 6 vote majority that sees what is happening and has decided this shit has gone way too far and its time to reel him in?
I know, Im a pie eyed optimist ☺️
malaise
(294,706 posts)Neal Katyal
That effin simple. He did not have the authority to impose tariffs.
M$Greedia needs to stop saying this is shocking. It is the fucking law.
Disgraceful my ass. This should be unsurprising.