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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsEpstein was much worse than a creepy pedo...
... and extortionist .
Is there really any hope of exposing those in the shadows and revolting against these creeps? (Looooong article)
"Epstein wanted to reduce "overpopulation" through climate change disasters, genetically modify Black peoples' brains, and create vast numbers of "superior" embryos using his own DNA. And he cultivated scientists to do so, and funded their research.
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The latest release of the Epstein Files contained emails with scientists seriously discussing the funding of projects to weed out the elderly and disabled, and create genetic engineering for "superior" embryos. His emails were shockingly racist, and not surprisingly, expressed his view of women as mere sex toys and breeders.
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Like Elon Musk, Epstein had planned to seed the human race with his DNA by impregnating women at his 33,000 square-foot ranch in New Mexico, and discussed the idea with multiple top scientists (who chose to remain anonymous), according to a 2019 report by the New York Times. "
We need much more than the French Revolution part deux... 😡
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/aug/18/private-jets-parties-and-eugenics-jeffrey-epsteins-bizarre-world-of-scientists?fbclid=IwZnRzaAQGs3pleHRuA2FlbQIxMQBzcnRjBmFwcF9pZAo2NjI4NTY4Mzc5AAEecZ_li9Slkz2oNp8G6qW-XlLERh_OzSLWUK621aIWvZkX4q8G1hzAu-cfpt8_aem_LNMnxLrIKiIqFyxfAtKyZw
Ritabert
(2,217 posts)travelingthrulife
(4,939 posts)Although the Bushes were into eugenics and using disease to deplete population. I suppose it's common parlor talk for wealthy people.
Ritabert
(2,217 posts)Homely, not very smart, family riches built on opium smuggling.
Be Leave On
(418 posts)Dunning and Kruger had things to say about the validity of people's self-estimations.
Ritabert
(2,217 posts)Alice Kramden
(2,915 posts)From the article:
At its most benign, transhumanism is a belief that humanitys problems can be improved, upgraded even, through such technology as cybernetics and artificial intelligence at its most malignant though, transhumanism lines up uncomfortably well with eugenics.
pandr32
(14,085 posts)His pursuits show zippo.
AZJonnie
(3,373 posts)Which the one in the OP would do when clicked. Not dragging you or anything I just don't want FB to make any extra money
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/aug/18/private-jets-parties-and-eugenics-jeffrey-epsteins-bizarre-world-of-scientists
What a crazy story, and deeply sick and twisted man. No wonder he and Trump were two peas in a pod for so many years.
AFA "the scientists" go, I'd like to know how much each one knew about, and more importantly did to further, these insane plans. Anyone who truly understood the goals and sought to further them needs to become persona non grata in the scientific world!
ShazzieB
(22,407 posts)What a bizarre story. The whole Epstein saga is like a bottomless pit of wtf that gets worse and worse the deeper you go. 😱
rampartd
(4,401 posts)RandomNumbers
(19,104 posts)I mean the guy was clearly evil, but I did not know this side.
This thread needs about 200 more recs ...
chicoescuela
(2,883 posts)Im interested
buzzycrumbhunger
(1,771 posts)I suppose I should stop posting so many Choppy Boi memes on facebonk, but the horror has faded so much with every heinous bit of news that I'm pretty much ready to sit in my rocking chair and knit through t the whole spectacle. 🤨

Be Leave On
(418 posts)AZJonnie
(3,373 posts)The latest release of the Epstein Files contained emails with scientists seriously discussing the funding of projects to weed out the elderly and disabled, and create genetic engineering for "superior" embryos. His emails were shockingly racist, and not surprisingly, expressed his view of women as mere sex toys and breeders
Things related to the 2025-26 file releases would logically not be part of the 2019 Guardian story you linked (which I did read but didn't see such strong accusations in, though it was a good read so thanks for that
buzzycrumbhunger
(1,771 posts)Life would be easier if we weren't limited to four paragrahs copied and pasted here. 🙄
RandomNumbers
(19,104 posts)I didn't find that section and neither did ctrl-F (search) in the page.
I put "Epstein climate change disaster" into Google News and got several hits. Didn't find that exact paragraph (but I didn't look hard).
This one backs up the text you have. (Fast Company, via Yahoo)
https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/good-way-dealing-overpopulation-epstein-143000219.html
Potentially a good thing for the species
In a series of July 2016 emails with Joscha Bach, a German philosopher, AI researcher, and cognitive scientist, Epstein brings up climate change in the middle of a discussion about cognition and race.
Maybe climate change is a good way of dealing with overpopulation, Epstein writes. the earths forest fire. potentially a good thing for the species.
AZJonnie
(3,373 posts)I always like reading Michael Mann, who is quoted often in the article.
This is good summation thereof:
Epstein does not seem to be necessarily a "climate change denier" so much as a "it's probably real, but maybe it will have unforeseen benefits for the planet and/or humanity, long term" type. I'm not entirely sure which is "worse", though outright deniers (and especially the people who cry "hoax!" ) generally annoy me more just because it's such an incredibly STUPID thesis.
The other sort, the Epstein types, however are probably more dangerous, especially when they have the dough to influence what steps are actually taken.
AZJonnie
(3,373 posts)Based on wording, the first one COULD have been from it, but I both read the whole thing, and global searched for the word "black", and do not see that paragraph.
The 2nd could not have to begin with, because it is referring to the Epstein file release, which had clearly not yet happened yet in 2019.
So I was just wondering if you copied that quote from elsewhere and if so, where, so I could read the actual article?
Cirsium
(3,731 posts)Those paragraphs do not appear in the article, despite the OPs claim to the contrary.
twodogsbarking
(18,193 posts)The glove does fit; don't acquit.
Cirsium
(3,731 posts)Those excerpts are not in the article you claim they are in.
peggysue2
(12,467 posts)On board with this Vision for the Future.
Ghoulish!
misanthrope
(9,449 posts)Sounds like they had similar value systems.
ninjanurse
(128 posts)My father, who loved and raised 7 of us and was always there. Not way unusual, lots of men like him. These sons of Nazis who want to spread sperm and make babies they will never care about are what we need to get rid of.
Martin68
(27,411 posts)hatrack
(64,607 posts)Several years after his 2008 conviction, publications including Forbes, the National Review, and HuffPo all ran stories on Epstein praising him as a selfless philanthropist, a hedge-funder with a zealous science background, and one of the largest backers of cutting-edge science around the world. None of the articles mentioned his criminal history, and an investigation by the New York Times claimed they were used as part of a public relations campaign to revamp Epsteins image. All three publications have since deleted or amended articles cited by the New York Times.
Emphasis added.
KPN
(17,259 posts)Plus 1000!
Mme. Defarge
(8,952 posts)but I can still knit.
angrychair
(12,006 posts)Every single person, scientist or whatever, that took money from or openly associated with Epstein, especially after his arrest, should be taken out to a public square and beaten to death with a baseball bat on mandatory TV broadcast on every channel.
To imply they didn't know or say some ignorant shit like "I didn't know" is insane.
I remind you these people were actively kidnapping, raping, murdering and eating CHILDREN.
paleotn
(21,927 posts)There's no way there weren't rumors. Anyone with a shred of decency or good sense would have stayed far away from him. Such things never, ever end well and you damn sure don't want your name tied up in it.
paleotn
(21,927 posts)When obviously it ain't.
And yes, we do need to put some GD heads on spikes!!!! As punishment and a warning.
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Mr.Bee
(1,736 posts)it's what it always comes back to.
Zee Masster Rasse
Maru Kitteh
(31,485 posts)that fancy themselves superior genetically? If Musk is such a superior specimen, what is all that ketamine and hair plugs for?