Democrats Should have Boycotted It

[gab13by13]

I only watched 15 minutes of it but in those 15 minutes I came to the conclusion that Krasnov used Democrats as props.

Blaming them for what he did and then the camera focusing mainly on a possible presidential candidate. The MSM coordinated the spectacle pretty damn well for Krasnov.

I watched the part where Ilhan Omar yelled out, "You killed Americans," at the same time that I yelled it out.

Congressional Magats are evil, the majority of the cuts to our social safety net from the Big Ugly Death bill will take effect on Dec. 1st, right after the election.

[SocialDemocrat61]

1. He would have loved that

Then his audience would have been filled with only his cultists applauding everything he said.

[Scrivener7]

2. Yes. Because of his need for constant universal attention, he would have hated it. There is no reason anyone

ever needs to sit through his idiocy because the purposes of all his appearances is nothing more than to given him the attention that feeds his ego. There is no benefit to anyone else.

We need to stop cooperating with that.

[SocialDemocrat61]

6. Then Republicans would have spread out

to fill the chamber, applauding and cheering everything he said. You really think he would have hated that?

[gab13by13]

7. I didn't watch much of it but I have a question,

The short amount of time I watched, Krasnov blamed Democrats for something and the camera immediately went to Mark Kelly who was just sitting there and taking it. It was no coincidence that the short time I watched the camera went to Kelly twice, a potential Democratic presidential candidate. My question to you is, how many times during the lie fest did the camera go to Kelly?

This is why I make the claim that Krasnov used the Democrats as props. Kelly had no opportunity to defend himself.

I saw the part where Krasnov asked people to stand up if they agree that we should protect Americans before we protect illegal immigrants, once again Krasnov used Democrats a props. If Democrats had been absent then that charade would have had to been cut out.

[SocialDemocrat61]

13. I have no idea

I didn't watch the speech.

And if there were no democrats, republicans would have spread out to fill the chamber and the main visual of the night would have been the whole chamber cheering and applauding him. That's what most people watching on TV would have remembered.

[Scrivener7]

10. Yes. I think he would have hated it. And the press would

have had no choice but to report on it, and that would have bothered him even more.

[SocialDemocrat61]

11. And most people would not know

or wouldn't care. Not everyone is a news junkie. In fact most are not.

The TV visual would have been everyone on the chamber applauding and cheering him.

[Scrivener7]

12. We disagree. I have read your opinion, you have read mine.

[SocialDemocrat61]

14. So I guess we agree to disagree

LOL

[Emile]

3. Damn if you do, damn if you don't.

They shouldn't have gone. A unified democratic party, that would have scared the shit out of republicans and President Shitzinpants!

[gab13by13]

9. IMO, this wasn't a SOTU speech

this was a Krasnov campaign rally with Democrats sitting in the front rows.

From what I am reading, Krasnov is getting great revues for his rally, guessing that his poll numbers should go up now.

I see that Al Greene was ejected from the rally for his sign, Democrats should have done much more of that. Getting thrown out would have inspired our base and disrupted the rally. Other members should have had signs, especially several about Epstein, but Democrats are too nice, they respect decorum.

[QueerDuck]

4. And if they had, there would be a non-stop chorus of complaints from the usual group/s...

... falsely accusing the no-show Democrats of being spinless, or cowards, or not having the nerve to stand up to him and "look him in the eye." The complaint would continue with accusations that they failed to live up to their responsibilities and obligations to be present and represent the people who voted for them... along with other false claims that the Democrats cannot be depended upon when the going gets tough.

No... they did the right thing by attending. It's possible to respect the institution and the constitutional obligations without "respecting Trump".

[Katinfl]

5. How can you respect the institution and constitutional obligations when he does not respect either?

If it was anyone other than trump, i could see your point. But not with him and the current gop party. They neither honor nor respect anyone or anything, except him. They proved it yet again last night. They blindly follow his lead and deserve no respect. You have to respect in order to earn it and they have none.

[QueerDuck]

8. Well, I can walk and chew gum at the same time, and I think our elected Democrats can do so too.

It's easy to categorize things in a binary way... good or bad; us vs them; black or white with no shades of gray. It's also easy to make emotional decisions based on revenge or what feels good at the moment... but which has the potential to be distracting and to make Democrats a target. In this regard, being targeted and criticized relentlessly by those we'd normally consider to be allies is not outside the realm of likely possibilities. While it may have been satisfying for the hard-core political junkies among us... that type of stunt would not resonate with the rest of the country who are largely clueless.

Even now... our Democrats are being attacked and second-guessed simply for having attended. There will always be those who believe that the Democrats can do nothing right, and among those, there will be a vocal group who will seize any opportunity to attack Democrats, whether it's deserved or not. In this case, the attacks that are being hurled at them for simply attending the SOTU address is undeserved and unhelpful.

A performative tantrum and "snub" of Trump and disrespecting their own Congressional institution and constitutional obligations would be satisfying to far fewer people that you may be imagining. It would change nothing. If such a thing would happen, their absence would be the headline, NOT their reasons for it. It would reflect poorly on the party and not on Trump or the GOP.

[betsuni]

16. Giving Trump a platform, normalizing, complicit, not meeting the moment to show they're pushing back

and standing up to Trump and fighting. Where were the Democrats? Sitting on their hands? Should've shouldn't have could've why didn't they do this why did they do that it would've been better to do the other thing failed leadership towels.

[Blue Full Moon]

15. They should have walked out

[Arthur_Frain]

17. This.

But we’re never in lock step like they are. There would always be an idiot or two.

They should have waited until a particularly egregious lie, then stood and walked quietly out.

[Miguelito Loveless]

18. I said it repeatedly

Either they boycotted, or stayed and protested continuously, heckling would have been even better, since Trump cannot handle it and would have melted down on national television.

Instead, everyone went their own way, showing them feckless as usual.