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My vote at this point is Mark Kelly. What do you think?
multigraincracker
(37,312 posts)Also some up and coming younger men and women are looking good.
Haggard Celine
(17,785 posts)But somebody might come along between now and then who isn't really on the radar now. 2 years is an eternity in American politics. We don't yet know what events will shape our perspective.
leftstreet
(39,862 posts)Seriously. Less chance of him hauling bags of cash out the door.
Plus Pritzker has a certain presence of benevolent certitude
Like, if the Flintstones had a Mob Enforcer
Melon
(1,282 posts)FadedMullet
(826 posts)Intractable
(1,886 posts)For most prescriptions, it is cheaper, and some substantially cheaper, than my costs with insurance.
https://www.costplusdrugs.com/
As far as billionaires go, Cuban is one of the few relatively good guys.
Trueblue Texan
(4,324 posts)I like Pritzker, Andy Beshear, and Gavin Newsome. Of those, I think Beshear and Pritzker have the best chance of winning.
Johonny
(25,905 posts)Some "smart" people tried not doing that last time and it didn't workout too good...
Ferrets are Cool
(22,705 posts)Beshear is a great choice.
Anyone but Newsome.
maxsolomon
(38,504 posts)no "E".
Ferrets are Cool
(22,705 posts)Thank you
niyad
(131,274 posts)yellow dahlia
(5,411 posts)One of the the things I admire about Chris Murphy - for the past year he has been saying the priority is saving Democracy. He is treating the situation like the existential crisis that it is.
niyad
(131,274 posts)Even in somewhat normal times, this endlessly-repeated question months before even the midterms, is annoying.
yellow dahlia
(5,411 posts)If the GOPhers don't lose in November, we'll know the fix is in.
Marie Marie
(11,144 posts)run Barrack Hussein Obama again. He'd win in a landslide. And the Republicans would lose their shit every single moment of his term.
Fiendish Thingy
(22,690 posts)Why waste time on fantasy when reality is staring us in the face?
Marie Marie
(11,144 posts)That is from the Republican handbook. Guess I should have used the sarcasm thingy.
LudwigPastorius
(14,484 posts)With all due respect, that may not matter if we don't win in November.
yellow dahlia
(5,411 posts)Fiendish Thingy
(22,690 posts)Whether we like it or not, the 2028 Dem nominee will almost certainly be a straight white male not named Newsom or Shapiro. (I dont like that reality, as my hopes were set on Whitmer)
I look forward to seeing who decides to throw their hat in the ring.
Pretty much guaranteed to run:
Kelly
Murphy
Beshear
Newsom
Shapiro
Pritzker
AZJonnie
(3,427 posts)Not a bash on the man at all, I just don't think a presidential campaign would be where he'd shine. He's actually a bit of a boring public orator if I'm honest, but he's amazing in all kinds of other ways
VP though? Sure!
I'm still on Team Pete, as I've been for forever.
SheilaAnn
(10,687 posts)Trueblue Texan
(4,324 posts)though I like him and agree he is brilliant. I don't think he can win given the need for Americans to be entertained by their leaders.
WarGamer
(18,395 posts)I want a vigorous Primary...
Iron sharpens Iron.
Mayor Pete, Newsom, Kelly, Harris... bring them on!
MerryBlooms
(12,223 posts)Happy to give credit to the source, in case folks don't know. ✌️
BannonsLiver
(20,402 posts)It should be a very interesting cycle on both sides of the aisle. I expect the GOP primary to be a shit show of epic proportions.
EdmondDantes_
(1,623 posts)My personal current top tier that I would want are Buttigieg, Whitmer, or Bashear.
The former because he's very smart so I believe he would come in with a good plan on how to fix things. The other two because they have won in non-blue states (Michigan being purple lately) and I would hope that appeal would transfer to the larger electorate.
QueerDuck
(1,376 posts)NoRethugFriends
(3,711 posts)maxsolomon
(38,504 posts)American Voters are largely idiots (every "Independent" or "Swing Voter" is), so the most attractive, charismatic candidate wins.
Best bet is Newsom. I know you all hate him, but you're not really representative of the average Dem voter.
FakeNoose
(41,103 posts)If he comes out ahead after all the primary races then I pledge to support our Party's choice.
Gavin isn't my first choice, but I will support him if he's the Party's nominee.
Pete Buttigieg - I believe he's the future of our Party, but I'd like to see him get some legislative experience before he jumps into the fray for President. He's got time on his side.
Mark Kelly has many wonderful attributes, also JB Pritzker, Adam Schiff and Tim Walz. I believe my Governor Josh Shapiro is also eying the 2028 race, but he can wait if need be.
maxsolomon
(38,504 posts)I'll vote for any Dem against any Repuke.
I'd have voted for Blagojevich over Trump.
jmowreader
(53,052 posts)Test 1: white
Test 2: cisgender, heterosexual, Christian man
Test 3: not from California, Washington, Illinois, New York or Massachusetts
In the current political climate Barack Obama (fails tests 1 and 3) wouldn't get elected, and he was a fine president.
This means we can't run Gavin Newsom, Bob Ferguson or J.B. Pritzker (from verboten states), Jared Polis (is gay), Abigail Spanberger, Gretchen Whitmer or Maura Healey (all women, and Governor Healey also fails test 3), or Wes Moore (is black).
I'm going to throw out two names who would be really good: Andy Beshear, governor of Kentucky, and Josh Shapiro, governor of Pennsylvania. Both these fine gentlemen understand the working person really well, and Governor Beshear has appeal to Republicans because you sure as hell can't be elected governor of THAT state without being able to win over the substantial GOP presence there. Josh Stein, governor of North Carolina, would also be good. Dr. Josh Green, governor of Hawaii, has a big problem: while he's great, he has a serious track record of pro-vaccination that would piss off a lot of voters and his state has very stringent gun control laws.
YES, we need to run a governor. It used to be the standard entry-level job for the presidency.
FadedMullet
(826 posts)jmowreader
(53,052 posts)The Mayor of DC, Muriel Bowser, definitely can't be elected president in this climate: she's never been married, she's a she, she's definitely not white, liberal as all get out, hates guns, basically everything the MAGAts hate in one person.
But no, Bob Ferguson is definitely unelectable as president.
Funny story: one of my supervisors in Berlin was named Bob Ferguson. And when I heard Bob Ferguson got elected governor of Washington, the first thing I thought was, "is it the same Bob Ferguson?" Turns out it isn't.
FakeNoose
(41,103 posts)I believe your criteria are way too narrow and confining.
Instead of saying "no this" and "no that" - how about instead: We figure out how to entice the non-voters and the independents in the country to get excited about our next candidate? If we can do that, we'll more than double our winning margins from the last several elections.
Here's what I know for sure: The Repukes are LOSING voters in droves. And the losses will continue if we get this figured out.
jmowreader
(53,052 posts)You can be ANYTHING and get elected president if you're a Republican. I mean, come on: they elected fucking Trump even though he's the very model of the kind of guy they'd like to take out back and shoot. But when you're a Democrat you need to be perfect.
pinkstarburst
(1,966 posts)If we are dismissing great candidates for being gay, looks like we are also dismissing them for not being Christian, so no Shapiro.
I guess we will be having Newsom. Pretty narrow field when you take out all the "can't haves". Also a bit worrisome as many of the ones left other than Newsom don't have any national profile at all. So Beshear, who I've actually heard of, but never heard talk... that could be tough. A bunch of these other names I've never even heard of. That could be a tough sell.
But Newsom's okay.
tinrobot
(12,038 posts)The candidate who wins is the one who speaks in a way that resonates with the voters. If they can do that, it doesn't matter what state they're from.
Obama did a great job of that. So did Clinton.
phylny
(8,812 posts)I wish Kamala Harris could run and win, I wish Pete Buttigieg could run and win, but I think that unfortunately will not happen.
SO...
Andy Beshear
Mark Kelly
JB Pritzger
Chris Murphy
FakeNoose
(41,103 posts)That will bring her back into Washington circles and pave the way for her to eventually run for President. Down the road.
phylny
(8,812 posts)question everything
(51,953 posts)Ping Tung
(4,319 posts)Intractable
(1,886 posts)She might have appeal to mainstream Democrats, but not beyond.
Did she ever, even once, turn down an interview on CNN or MS-NOW?
Still, if she wants it, I think she should fight for herself in the primary. Good luck!
question everything
(51,953 posts)pinkstarburst
(1,966 posts)Otherwise, I'll see who I like as we get closer.
choie
(6,841 posts)is never proffered an option. I think he's wonderful.
yellow dahlia
(5,411 posts)Whitehouse in the Whitehouse - catchy.
pinkstarburst
(1,966 posts)Some of these names in this thread I have never heard of. I know there is the new thinking of "must be a straight christian white male" and I get that, but whoever we get probably needs to be a recognizable national name. If no one has heard of them... that's going to be a problem.
moonscape
(5,672 posts)those who dont know him, a prominent Senator, the primary would take care of that
Intractable
(1,886 posts)It would be quite an example of synchronicity to have president named Whitehouse.
Tribetime
(7,122 posts)DET
(2,460 posts)It cant be a woman, a minority, a gay man, or a far left Democrat. I hate that, but its our reality right now. My personal choice would be Pritzker, but he is a very wealthy man who is significantly overweight. Second choice would be Jamie Raskin, but I dont know if he wants to run. Both are Jewish; I dont know if that is considered a dealbreaker anymore. Murphy would be fine.
Not a fan of Beshear; I saw him completely flub a pretty softball interview, and I really do not want a President from one of the most backward states in the country. Nonetheless, he does seem to have crossover appeal, which makes him a viable contender. I like Mark Kelley, but he is not especially charismatic. Nonetheless, his remarkable life of service could appeal to a lot of independents. Please spare us from Newsom, although his recent string of gaffes might disqualify him anyway.
Ferrets are Cool
(22,705 posts)right now. Just look at who is winning elections atm. Not moderates. Not APAC shills.
DET
(2,460 posts)But I dont think that characterization fits people like Pritzker or Raskin or Walz (who I forgot to mention). Id love to see someone like Buttigieg win, and I think he probably will some day, but his time is not now. Id especially love to see a woman win, but I did not fully realize how rampant misogyny is in this country (and I lived through it during my career, especially starting out).
Progressive Democrats have been winning state and local elections recently, but the Presidential election requires appeal to a much more diverse population. Its the Independents and disappointed Republicans who are potentially persuadable, but they are not going to vote for someone like AOC. If youre an Independent at this point, then youre at least open to Republican ideas, which means that youre either ignorant or stupid or really selfish. The best we can hope for is that these people will potentially vote for a Democratic candidate who is economically progressive (as long as they perceive a personal benefit), but does not focus on scary social issues.
Tree Lady
(13,193 posts)Stop trying to bring in older people because of experience and bring in smart and youth to get the young actually excited about voting again.
Pete may be gay but he actually lives his religion. He's always knows how to calmly figure things out.
They love to tear down AOC but she is very smart also and has matured into her roll.
krawhitham
(5,064 posts)BlueTsunami2018
(4,934 posts)Kelly is hardly that person. Hes as milqutoast status quo as they come. We dont need a right light candidate.
I dont expect an actual left candidate. That would be a bridge too far for the capitalist owners and Americans are too indoctrinated into this capitalism is great nonsense to consider it. But goddamnit ENOUGH with the tacking to the center bullshit. Because theyre never tacking to the center, theyre shifting the Overton Window further to the right. We need to go left (in the American sense, as weak as that may be) and go fucking hard. Im sick of trying to capture the disaffected Republicans who barely exist and go for the huge block of people on the left who want to vote for someone who actually pays attention to them instead of constantly blowing them off and pissing on them. No more campaigning with the fucking Liz Cheneys of the world and no more supporting or ignoring genocide, among other things that should be obvious.
We cannot be running on getting back to normal because normal has sucked for the working class since dickhead Reagans puppet masters turned the whole country upside down.
Does that person exist? Could that person even get on the ballot in this corporate controlled environment?
I dont know but we have to try.
We have to fucking try. Because otherwise, whats the point?
hamsterjill
(17,321 posts)I want to hear ideas; not personal insults.
I want to hear strength; not just bravado.
I want to hear resolve; not just empty promises.
I want to hear creativity; not just the same old, stale ideas.
And I want to hear what each candidate will offer in order to take this country back to safety and security for those living in it, and what they will do in order to keep something like Trump from happening again. I want my rights to be the same in every state just as a man's rights are. I want law and order and justice restored. I want someone who not only wants to be President, but understands that being President means they work 24/7 for the people. I want someone who will make me proud to be an American again.
Then...I'll make a decision as to who to vote for.
Intractable
(1,886 posts)Unless Mark Kelly is an actual progressive, and I think he isn't, I would only vote for him against the Republican.
But, why should we even think about this now? We have to deal with 2026 elections.
NoRethugFriends
(3,711 posts)Intractable
(1,886 posts)Up until a few years ago, I didn't know he had a twin brother.
In one on-TV scene, the two brothers were shown next to each other. I said, "Oh my. There's two of him!"
Tribetime
(7,122 posts)SSJVegeta
(2,627 posts)Kelly would make an incredible Secretary of State, though
NoRethugFriends
(3,711 posts)womanofthehills
(10,851 posts)Hes out there big time on the Epstein files, human rights violations in West Bank, speaking out big time of Trumps desire for war in Iran, etc
Lately - more and more Dems on X saying he would make a great president.
artemisia1
(1,689 posts)are experienced for the gutterfight of the GE.