'Making threats and risking unnecessary conflict with Iran because they can't match Obama's success'

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Nancy Pelosi @SpeakerPelosi
President Obama masterfully used diplomacy to prevent Iran from acquiring a nuclear weapon.

The Trump Administration, in its ineptitude, threw away that agreement.

Now they’re making threats and risking unnecessary conflict because they can’t match Obama’s success.

Link to tweet

...along with Sec. of State Hillary Clinton:

Hillary Clinton on the Iran nuclear deal: ‘Distrust and verify’
https://www.brookings.edu/articles/hillary-clinton-on-the-iran-nuclear-deal-distrust-and-verify/

watch Rep. Pelosi on CNN following Trump's State of The Union address"

[SheltieLover]

1. "Crazy Democrats?"

I guess when someone who is plain fucking nuts considers us crazy, that's a compliment.

She is right, of course.

[AllaN01Bear]

2. i am crazy r. i like to drive them nutz.:)

and yes thanks for another merit badge . i have many of them. lliberal. commie. etc. i love it

[SheltieLover]

4. That's the spirit, Bear!

[John Farmer]

3. I wonder if

Trump knows about the last time the US overthrew an Iran government, giving them the Shah. That act insured that there would be theocratic government in Iran before long.

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6. that would seem likely

...but the resistance in the streets looks to be protesting against the theocratic rule.

French media was reporting that former moderate President Hassan Rouhani is conspiring with the Islamic Revolutionary Guard others, like former Foreign Minister Mohammad Javad Zarif, to seize power.

The Mojahedin-e Khalq (MEK), a foreign-based militarized resistance group has been making claims of attacking the Ayatollah's compound, and was also responsible for other attacks on the country in the past.

But the street protests are a traditional outbreak of resistance due to a collapsed economy and pushback against a number of high profile political arrests and military crackdowns on dissent.

Nonetheless, it's reasonable to worry about a collapse of the present regime, but it's more likely that the change will be an internal shift with the backing of the military, rather than a complete overthrow by the people in the streets, so, it's likely that the problems will deepen, not improve due to the unrest.

U.S. military action across soverign borders does tend, though, to consolidate even fractious groups together in resistance. That's what makes Trump's blundering and bluster so fraught with folly.

[Mosby]

7. The resistance on the street has been crushed.

30,000+ dead.

The only thing that's going to stop trump from bombing Iran is if they come sort of deal, which they won't because they will not agree to stop refining uranium above 30% and will not turn over their highly enriched uranium.

Eta

Former Iranian President Hassan Rouhani and his foreign minister, Mohammad Javad Zarif, tried to sideline Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei at the height of nationwide unrest but failed, according to a report in the French newspaper “Le Figaro.” The official who thwarted the effort, Ali Larijani, has since assumed sweeping authority and is described as effectively managing the country.

Second edit:

Satellite images from Chinese intel firm show 11 US F-22 fighter jets at Israeli air base

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/satellite-images-from-chinese-intel-firm-show-11-us-f-22-fighter-jets-at-israeli-air-base/

This has never happened before.

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9. I think he might be restrained by his own military

...who has already told him there would be high casualty rates with a dubious effect on the nuke material, which is now likely mobile and deep underground.

The Iran regime is just going to collapse into itself and produce a more defensive and resistant government, especially if we launch more strikes against them.

I think the French reports about those attacks on the ayatollah aren't likely accurate, but it demonstrates the scattershot of resistance and the present regime's staying power, a bit like in Venezuela after we attacked and took out their leader and they coalesced around what remained.

The demands about the uranium are really just incidental, opportunistic, rhetorical and mainly superfluous to Trump's desire to stage an attack on them to distract from his Epstein involvement.

[Wounded Bear]

5. Pres Obama actually used diplomacy. trump just uses threats and bombast...

while risking all out war.

[Mosby]

8. Did the Iranians stop enrichment?

Nt

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10. question should be about averting war

...and whether this administration has made any substantive or successful effort to monitor and contain their nuke material, since they took down the only one in place with Trump insisting at the time he could broker a better deal than Obama.

Now they're caught in their own bull.

Just this month, in negotiations with the Trump admin, Iran's defense ministry agreed to allow the IAEA to inspect their facilities.

Trump's response was that, "they want a deal more than we do."