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(64,130 posts)Remembering my 1960's roots.
WiVoter
(1,592 posts)WTF with that guy ?😡
QueerDuck
(1,452 posts)... he's the only Democrat that WVians would vote for, so as bad as he was, we were lucky to have him and his "D" (if not his votes) to bring us closer to having a majority. On the other hand, in PA... we can do better. The PAian voters are swing/purpleish... and other fine candidates are certainly electable.
I'm "thankful" that it was Fetterman over Oz... but it could have been, should have been Lamb instead. If Bernie had chosen to put his endorsement and election machinery behind a better candidate we would not be here talking about this today.
Fetterman definitely had Bernie fooled, and his endorsement really helped to bring out the "progressive vote" for a candidate who isn't as progressive as we were told he'd be.
bluestarone
(21,964 posts)GaYellowDawg
(5,099 posts)Is that I'm glad that my stroke didn't turn me into a complete fucking moron like his apparently did him.
yardwork
(69,226 posts)It's like he's a completely different person.
MurrayDelph
(5,737 posts)a show where certain ghosts can supplant other people.
I think when Fetterman had his stroke, his soul was pushed out and he is possessed by Joe Lieberman.
dutch777
(5,019 posts)Even if the theorcratic Iranian regime falls, the chance of something better that lends itself to a more stable region is a very long shot. Our influence will not be welcome and likely animosity and tensions with neighboring countries will remain. Like our little adventure in Venezuela, you may change the people at the top, but very little else changes, just new chapter of Bad.
mountain grammy
(28,914 posts)yardwork
(69,226 posts)mopinko
(73,551 posts)this is bibis doing.
dutch777
(5,019 posts)...for all the people smarter than Trump. This will delaminate in so many ways. As Robert McNamara said when LBJ directed him to expand the Vietnam War "...and loose the law of unanticipated consequences".
its hard to say if its cuz hes stupid or cuz hes compromised.
milestogo
(22,937 posts)These war names are always Orwellian.
QueerDuck
(1,452 posts)Cha
(318,276 posts)QueerDuck
(1,452 posts)For health reasons.
Cha
(318,276 posts)actual Dems, are thinking of this surreptitious DINO?
QueerDuck
(1,452 posts)... how was he able to fool them all. What did they see in him that I could not see? (Or, how could they not see what so many of us always suspected and disliked about him?) What made him a better choice over Conor Lamb during the primary? --- Big sigh.
Cha
(318,276 posts)on DU awhile ago that AOC apologized to him.. so maybe Connor Lamb will have some of that support if he runs in a couple of years.
QueerDuck
(1,452 posts)... gotten as far as he did without Bernie's endorsement. I guess he had Bernie fooled too. Bernie said that Fetterman would be a "real fighter for the working class" ... and without Bernies vocal support, its hard to imagine him surviving that primary or consolidating the base.
Now, Fetterman is openly mocking Bernie's positions on foreign policy and blasting "rot" in the party. Was Bernie just a "useful engine" for Fetterman to get elected, or did Fetterman genuinely change once he got to DC?
Since late 2023, Fetterman has distanced himself from the "progressive" label, specifically over his unconditional support for Israel, which directly conflicts with Bernies calls for aid conditions. I wonder how Bernie could have so seriously misjudged his character to the point where he was willing to put his own reputation on the line for Fetterman.
I was a big bait-and-switch, and I wonder if Fetterman would have even cleared the primary without Bernie's stamp of approval. Thoughts?
PS: This was interesting: https://poll.qu.edu/poll-release?releaseid=3948

Cha
(318,276 posts)so long.. I took a catnap.
Yes I know about Sanders support.
I thought Connor Lamb would be an excellent Senator. and voiced my opinion on DU.. I was told.. what a wonderful progressive Dem that Fetterman was.
I was skeptical.. but Fetterman has gone way beyond any reservations I had about him.
... the dark side.
Thanks for those polls on his current status. I just bet he has a "warm embrace from fascists.. " why not? :
sheshe2
(97,017 posts)Tattoo and all.
QueerDuck
(1,452 posts)Traildogbob
(12,903 posts)Put in your God Damned hoodie and put your own fucking boots on the ground. Fuck all this regime with hell fire missiles.
NewHendoLib
(61,794 posts)LuvLoogie
(8,752 posts)The world is eating itself.
Intractable
(1,914 posts)Your God blessed you with a stroke.
He's got more in store for you Fetterman.
Norbert
(7,696 posts)If we start bringing back our soldiers in body bags.
Initech
(108,397 posts)mvd
(65,893 posts)Biggest disappointment I can remember. I feel like I in PA have no real Democratic representation in the Senate.
republianmushroom
(22,228 posts)lame54
(39,480 posts)MustLoveBeagles
(15,691 posts)Cha
(318,276 posts)hope he comes back in 2028 and Wins.
MustLoveBeagles
(15,691 posts)Either the stroke changed Fetterman for the worst or it revealed who he really was. Either way he's got to go. Let's get a real Democrat in that seat .
Cha
(318,276 posts)I read on here . He should have a lot of People behind him!
JBTaurus83
(1,083 posts)That hes one of my senators.
DJ Synikus Makisimus
(1,336 posts)What a surprise.
Blue Owl
(58,841 posts)
Initech
(108,397 posts)His brainwashing has been completed. Fuck this shit.
BlueWaveNeverEnd
(13,785 posts)Duncan Grant
(8,915 posts)Respectfully, this wont get better until hes in rehab.
ColoringFool
(548 posts)To save it."
---An Unknown US Major, re: Vietnam. (Often wrongly attributed to Gen. Westmoreland.)
Javaman
(65,568 posts)and soon after they are all in for war.