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DOW is down 2.25% at open (Original Post) BlueWaveNeverEnd 16 hrs ago OP
Wow! The VIX, which is a measure of people's anxiety over the market, is up at 21%. Which means highly anxious. Scrivener7 16 hrs ago #1
I wonder if the VIX being so high explains the drop karynnj 15 hrs ago #9
They often move together, with the VIX being very slightly predictive. Scrivener7 14 hrs ago #20
Pamela Jo must not be happy underpants 16 hrs ago #2
This could collapse the world economy. lostincalifornia 16 hrs ago #3
Iran has calculated that the best way to win is economic warfare Renew Deal 16 hrs ago #4
Apparently the White House's inability to explain Johonny 16 hrs ago #5
Add in they didn't issue warnings for people to leave before the strike karynnj 15 hrs ago #11
Killing Americans abroad...A sacrifice TACO is willing to make. ProudMNDemocrat 14 hrs ago #16
2.5% now... LuckyCharms 16 hrs ago #6
Recovered to down only 1.4% BlueWaveNeverEnd 14 hrs ago #19
DOW −1,233.91 Ping Tung 16 hrs ago #7
But the DJIA was at 50k a few weeks ago. DUH!!! n/t Jacson6 15 hrs ago #8
DOW is only up 7% total now under Trump Johnny2X2X 15 hrs ago #10
Should we tell Pamela? Norbert 15 hrs ago #12
They (meaning the grifter and his court jesters) can usually do or say something that turns it around. yellow dahlia 15 hrs ago #13
Glad I rebalanced my portfolio over the weekend Fiendish Thingy 15 hrs ago #14
How do you do that over the weekend Disaffected 15 hrs ago #15
I adjusted the percentage allotments on Sunday on my 457 plan's website, and the orders were executed yesterday. Fiendish Thingy 14 hrs ago #17
Coming back Greg_In_SF 14 hrs ago #18

Scrivener7

(59,227 posts)
1. Wow! The VIX, which is a measure of people's anxiety over the market, is up at 21%. Which means highly anxious.
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 10:03 AM
16 hrs ago

And all that is the opposite of what usually happens when the US goes to war.

karynnj

(60,894 posts)
9. I wonder if the VIX being so high explains the drop
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 10:37 AM
15 hrs ago

Cause and effect could go either way.

Because it is very early in this war, it is hard to picture how it ends up. With so many top leaders killed, it may not be like the killing of the military leader in Trump's first term or the attacks last June when Iran's response was comparatively moderate.

The impact on the economy might be that higher costs of oil and gas will raise the price of almost everything. I think this will be different than in the 1970s. The percent of fuel produced in the US is far higher. That might mitigate shortages, however the price for this commodity will be set by global markets. Worldwide shortages will cause the price to rise.

What I expect is a rise in inflation. It was one factor in the extremely high inflation in the late 1970s.

Johonny

(25,960 posts)
5. Apparently the White House's inability to explain
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 10:22 AM
16 hrs ago

Their war, state any goals, any time line or if they'd actually be able to keep oil production safe . . .

The markets gave them a day and we're still waiting. The department of war says one thing, state department another, and the president talks about drapes....

karynnj

(60,894 posts)
11. Add in they didn't issue warnings for people to leave before the strike
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 10:42 AM
15 hrs ago

Now, they are suggesting Americans leave, but the embassies are saying they can't help.

I wonder if people remember the outrage that some Americans, who ignored repeated warnings and a public timetable for withdrawal, were not all evacuated. In addition, there was anger that Afghans who worked with us were not evacuated.

ProudMNDemocrat

(20,797 posts)
16. Killing Americans abroad...A sacrifice TACO is willing to make.
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 11:37 AM
14 hrs ago

I have friends traveling abroad coming back from Antarctica on a once-in-a-lifetime trip.

I fear for the lives for those in Europe, Asia, and the Middle East either traveling or working. Trump has basically put targets on their backs and with no warning before hand or help to get them out.

LuckyCharms

(22,390 posts)
6. 2.5% now...
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 10:22 AM
16 hrs ago

Waiting for the crash here, but the plunge protection team will likely step in later.

Johnny2X2X

(23,979 posts)
10. DOW is only up 7% total now under Trump
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 10:41 AM
15 hrs ago

Average is 10.4% a year. So he’s done zero for the economy including your 401K.

yellow dahlia

(5,515 posts)
13. They (meaning the grifter and his court jesters) can usually do or say something that turns it around.
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 11:09 AM
15 hrs ago

(Which by itself is not a good thing, but a tangential discussion.)

They have made such a mess right now? What can they do or say to balance things out? What move can they pull to create something other than uncertainty and unpredictability.?

Fiendish Thingy

(22,784 posts)
14. Glad I rebalanced my portfolio over the weekend
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 11:15 AM
15 hrs ago

Moved some money out of US large and mid-cap and into European/international funds, which have been performing 2-3x better than US funds.

Fiendish Thingy

(22,784 posts)
17. I adjusted the percentage allotments on Sunday on my 457 plan's website, and the orders were executed yesterday.
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 11:39 AM
14 hrs ago
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