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(2,731 posts)OAITW r.2.0
(31,961 posts)IMHO
SSJVegeta
(2,731 posts)Celerity
(54,112 posts)Now we need the christofash crim Paxton to win the Rethug run-off over Cornyn and we just might win the Senate seat (Talarico v Paxton was the ideal match-up before the voting started).
Enter stage left
(4,487 posts)Anybody know?
LeftInTX
(34,076 posts)All of the congressional seats now have a general election candidate or are heading into a runoff.
JT45242
(3,988 posts)I remember that being a big deal. Or is that only for federal and state office?
Texas residents?
LeftInTX
(34,076 posts)Think of Ted Cruz 2016. Elected in 2012. Not up for re-election until 2018. Free to run for office in 2016
JT45242
(3,988 posts)Apparently LBJ pushed a law through in 1959 so he could run for Senate and VP in the same election in case JFK lost.
Apparently, according to an NPR article https://www.npr.org/sections/politicaljunkie/2009/04/on_this_day_in_1959_texas_pass.html
it is specific to Senate and either VP or President not two seats in the legislature.
LeftInTX
(34,076 posts)
Johnson had already won his senate primary in May.
I don't know of another case, where this has occurred again in recent history and think it's moot. All states now have presidential primaries or caucuses. Keep in mind, this was also put to test when the DNC had a second presidential primary in July 2024 after Joe Biden withdrew. There are now much stricter rules/laws about who becomes the presidential nominee for a major party. Kamala's nomination required a second primary consisting of DNC delegates. . She had to win the primary in order to secure the nomination. In today's day and age, Johnson would not be allowed to throw his hat in the presidential ring at the convention.
Did someone who had won a primary in their respective race earlier in 2024 also participate in the DNC's second primary? Who knows? I would have to research.
Bentsen was appointed on the same ticket as Dukakis. Hence, he did not file in two primaries at the same time. Since VP is not on a primary ballot.
Same with Paul Ryan. He was not on a primary for VP.
Johnson could run on the same ticket at Kennedy because VP is not an elected position. If he had won the nominee, who knows what would have happened? But in today's day and age primaries matter. Johnson did not participate in a presidential primary in 1960, unless you call a nomination at the convention a presidential primary. He previously won his senate primary in May 1960.
All I know is that Texas did not participate in a 1960 presidential primary.
Back in the day, political parties were poorly regulated. Fast forward to the federal elections commission and all the filing rules, Johnson's campaign for president wouldn't fly.
I live in Texas. You can not file for two seats at the same time! We even have sore loser laws that prevent primary losers from running as independents.
Also Texas has all of their primaries on the same day. (Some state stagger their primaries, but Texas does not)
No. A candidate cannot file applications for two or more offices that will be voted on at one or more elections held on the same day. For example, a candidate could not file an application for city council and school board if those elections will be held on the same day. If a candidate files more than one application for a place on the ballot, each application filed subsequent to the first application is invalid. [Secs. 52.034, 141.033]
https://www.sos.state.tx.us/elections/candidates/guide/2026/faqs.shtml
Deuxcents
(26,447 posts)Marie Marie
(11,164 posts)They both had such a way with simple language projecting a powerful message. We need them both back in Washington.
She would have to change districts and
run in that primary.
Coventina
(29,593 posts)Per MS NOW discussion earlier.
Frasier Balzov
(5,011 posts)A senator's chief of staff's salary is almost as much as the senator's salary.
The two of them together could be a powerful joint force advancing legislative policy objectives if they see those objectives in essentially the same way.
Is this practical? Or do they hate each other's guts? I certainly hope not.
MichMan
(17,026 posts)LeftInTX
(34,076 posts)niyad
(131,548 posts)with national visibility to being an invisible staffer? Do you have any idea how sexist and offensive that sounds, whatever your actual intentions with that post may be?
Frasier Balzov
(5,011 posts)If Crockett has lost, then what will be her visibility?
Will she campaign for him and be a media surrogate for him?
That would be great! But then what of her future after November?
If Talarico wins the seat, I think the offer should at least be made.
Whoever he might otherwise have in mind for the job can't possibly be as big help to him and the People of Texas as Jasmine Crockett would be.
Unless she litigates her primary loss and the two of them end up hating each other's guts.
Skittles
(170,924 posts)NOPE
Cha
(318,352 posts)Future...She's a Strong Voice For Our Democracy!
pinkstarburst
(1,990 posts)Orangepeel
(13,978 posts)Part of why she ran for Senate
H2O Man
(78,924 posts)MichMan
(17,026 posts)Not sure of the rules in Texas
Brother Buzz
(39,826 posts)Current as of January 01, 2024 | Updated by Findlaw Staff
(a) A person who voted at a primary election or who was a candidate for nomination in a primary is ineligible for a place on the ballot for the succeeding general election for state and county officers as:
(1) an independent candidate for an office for which a candidate was nominated in the primary; or
(2) the nominee of a political party other than the party holding the primary in which the person voted or was a candidate.
(b) A person who was a candidate for nomination in a primary election is ineligible for a place on the list of write-in candidates for the succeeding general election for state and county officers as a write-in candidate for the office sought by that candidate in the primary.
MichMan
(17,026 posts)LeftInTX
(34,076 posts)Pisces
(6,196 posts)themaguffin
(5,119 posts)or for any reason. Let some right winger run as independent.
Towlie
(5,573 posts)Voting with more than two choices is always flawed. A fictitious example:
Crockett (I), 30%
Talarico (D), 30%
Paxton (R) 40%
60% voted against Paxton in favor of a Democrat, yet Paxton wins.
Melon
(1,399 posts)LetMyPeopleVote
(178,326 posts)Crockett ran for senate because she was gerrymandered out You can not run for two positions at the same time in Texas
karynnj
(60,899 posts)Witnessof Trump
(8 posts)No more to be seen.
Celerity
(54,112 posts)thought crime
(1,457 posts)She could do very well in primary debates.
Celerity
(54,112 posts)I see very little chance we risk nominating a female POTUS candidate for the 3rd time in the last 4 cycles. The US is simply too misogynistic atm.
Also, the US deep racism and religious bias (against non Christians) needs to be taken into account. Same for homophobia (especially against gay men, as lesbians tend to have easier times getting elected now).
As for VP, she presents a chance to become a focal point of attacks from the right designed to scare off swing voters, moderates, centrists, white suburbanites, etc, which breaks the old rule number 1 for VP chosing (do no harm).
On election night 2024, when it was clear that Harris had lost, I predicted 2 white, straight, centre left Christian males as our 2028 ticket.
As a mixed race (genetic WWIII in a human body, lol: mum is a Bajan (Barbados) mixed race black/etc West Indian, plus white Swedish (my father is 100 per cent Swede), Han Chinese, Lebanese, Sephardic Portuguese Jewish, East Indian, etc), lesbian, atheist, social democratic (NOT democratic socialist) type progressive female, that prediction pains me, but I am nothing if not a realist and pragmatic when it comes to my predictions and what is needed to win in a fucked up Trumpian-inflected splintered national electoral ecosphere.
Crockett comes with more inherent risk than potential gain IMHO.
Same for AOC and a 2028 POTUS run. Hopefully she runs for Schumer's NY Senate seat in 2028, whether he runs for re-election again or not, as she is blocked from House leadership by the moderate/centrist/conservative Dem caucuses (with help as of late, sadly, from the retiring Pelosi). Some of groups (and individual members of them) detest AOC, like many in the extraordinarily problematic (on many issues and stances) No Labels-spawned Problem Solvers Caucus.
That all said, I absolutely respect a differing opinion in regards to my predictions.
Cheers,
Cel
thought crime
(1,457 posts)I'm just tired of Democrats being so risk-averse, to the point that it probably turns off some voters; especially young voters. I agree that AOC's best move is to run for Senate, but I would love to see Jasmine Crockett in the presidential primaries, partly to make them more exciting and draw viewers, but I also do think she is so bright and interesting that she could take off like a rocket in those debates.
My worst fear is that she would opt to be some panelist on a CNN show when we have such a need for better elected officials.
Celerity
(54,112 posts)It is not like she is vastly geographically removed from the new TX-30, map, and there is no requirement at all to live within a boundary of a House district. Multiple Dems have lived outside of the House districts they represented or currently represent.
2 very well-known examples: Maxine Waters is one, and the now deceased John Conyers lived outside his old Detroit district for ages.
AZProgressive
(29,907 posts)I think the problem with the last 3 Presidential cycles we ran somewhat insincere politicians and even though Trump lies more than any other politician he comes across as "authentic".
I think Democrats need their own authenticity and if that happens to be a female Presidential candidate I'm in favor of that. I just think the problem with Clinton or Harris is they didn't come across as sincere.
oasis
(53,532 posts)politics.
Skittles
(170,924 posts)sure, bro
Witnessof Trump
(8 posts)Bro
Skittles
(170,924 posts)they would very much have preferred Crockett so they could pull their usual racist, misogynist bullshit
Cha
(318,352 posts)Torchlight
(6,686 posts)Good luck!