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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsBlackRock, the world's largest asset manager, just BLOCKED withdrawals.
And at 3pm CST--the market is mostly in the RED.
Global Dissident @GlobalDiss
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🚨 SOMETHING BIG JUST HAPPENED
BlackRock, the worlds largest asset manager, just BLOCKED withdrawals.
Investors tried to pull $1.2 BILLION from its $26B private credit fund.
BlackRock said NO and capped withdrawals at 5%.
Nearly HALF the investors who wanted out were denied their money.
At the same time, Blackstone faced record withdrawals and had to inject $400M of its own cash.
When the BIGGEST funds on Earth start limiting withdrawals, it is a MAJOR WARNING sign for the entire $1.8 TRILLION private credit market.
Link to tweet
sarisataka
(22,489 posts)Of a bank locking its doors to prevent a run?
Buckeyeblue
(6,329 posts)Reminds me of 2008.
riversedge
(80,442 posts)AZ8theist
(7,249 posts)AllaN01Bear
(29,223 posts)Joinfortmill
(20,917 posts)D_Master81
(2,488 posts)If we are hoping Trump figures something out during his coveted golf time we are screwed
Scrivener7
(59,290 posts)Nor could any of the clowns he has appointed to figure it out.
Renew Deal
(84,923 posts)Because according to the article below, the 5% limit already existed. It's not new.
Ilikepurple
(573 posts)At least what I find interesting is that investors were looking to pull out about 10%. I dont know if thats because they saw opportunity somewhere else or an increased risk in this credit fund. The appearance, or should I say the reality, of illiquidity can start runs on withdrawals across markets. I dont think theres reason to panic with this news, but if enough big $ panic or try to make big moves, it could reverberate through other markets.
Renew Deal
(84,923 posts)The part of the tweet that is slightly misleading is that Blackrock blocked the withdrawal. The 5% limit already existed. The more significant part as you said is that someone tried the withdrawal.
LuckyCharms
(22,447 posts)liberalla
(11,009 posts)UpInArms
(54,742 posts)Investment management firm BlackRock BLK -7.17% ▼ has imposed limits on withdrawals from one of its flagship private credit funds after several investors rushed to pull money, marking another sign of stress in a sector that had been booming just a year ago. Following the news, BLK stock declined 6% on Friday.
The sell-off spilled into the broader private equity sector, with Blue Owl Capital OWL -5.04% ▼ down 4.1%, KKR KKR -4.46% ▼ off 4%, Carlyle Group CG -5.36% ▼ down 3.7%, Apollo Global Management APO -2.28% ▼ slipping 3.2%, and Ares Management ARES -6.01% ▼ falling 4.6%.
The firm disclosed that its $26 billion HPS Corporate Lending Fund received $1.2 billion in redemption requests in the first quarter, about 9.3% of its net asset value.
Because the funds structure allows only 5% of assets to be redeemed in a quarter, BlackRock will pay out $620 million and defer the remaining requests, activating its withdrawal limit mechanism.
More at:
https://www.tipranks.com/news/investor-rush-to-exit-hits-blackrock-blk-as-it-limits-withdrawals-stock-drops-6
The one of interest to me is Blue Owl
That is definitely troubling
Blue Owl has $48 million exposure to collapsed UK property lender, Bloomberg News reports
March 6 (Reuters) - Alternative asset manager Blue Owl has a 36 million pound ($48 million) exposure to Century Capital Partners Ltd, a London-based property lender that entered administration last month, Bloomberg News reported on Friday.
The U.S. private-credit firm, which manages $307 billion in assets, financed the riskiest slice of loans originated by Century, a bridging lender focused on high-end central London property, the report said, citing people familiar with the matter.
Century entered administration with about 95 million pounds of total debt, days before a larger rival, Market Financial Solutions, fell into a UK form of insolvency, according to the report.
Both companies relied on funding lines from private credit firms and banks to originate short-term property loans for borrowers who often cannot secure traditional bank financing, typically at higher interest rates, Bloomberg News reported, and added that Century had not been accused of fraud by any creditor.
More at link
hatrack
(64,708 posts)
enough
(13,731 posts)SergeStorms
(20,415 posts)Anytime the Carlyle Group has a bad day is a good day for the rest of us.
Renew Deal
(84,923 posts)At least for Blackrock
Celerity
(54,159 posts)BlackRock is the world's largest asset manager, not a bank, managing over $10 trillion in assets for clients rather than holding deposits or lending its own money. As a fiduciary, it invests funds on behalf of clients, avoiding the direct balance sheet risks of traditional banking.
see more at:

How asset managers like BlackRock took over the world
https://blogs.lse.ac.uk/lsereviewofbooks/2025/06/16/how-asset-managers-like-blackrock-took-over-the-world-vulture-capitalism-extract-grace-blakeley/
Renew Deal
(84,923 posts)Celerity
(54,159 posts)Renew Deal
(84,923 posts)I was being pithy. Maybe I could have said effectively a bank run. People panic when they think they cant get their money.
Celerity
(54,159 posts)TheRickles
(3,311 posts)Celerity
(54,159 posts)ananda
(34,876 posts)for its clients.
Renew Deal
(84,923 posts)And some people have a higher appetite for risk
usedtobedemgurl
(2,003 posts)Does this mean regular banks could start doing this to us soon - for example, Wells Fargo or bank of America? Does this mean we may never have access to our money? Please explain it like I am a five year old. BTW, March is TBI awareness month. (Traumatic brain injury)
Celerity
(54,159 posts)
Regulation D used to limit savings account withdrawals to six per month. The Federal Reserve scrapped that rule in April 2020. But many banks pretended nothing changed and still enforce the old six-withdrawal limit because they can. Heres what you need to know and how to avoid getting hit with unnecessary fees.
What is Regulation D?
Regulation D was a Federal Reserve rule that required banks to maintain reserves against certain types of deposits and limited convenient withdrawals from savings accounts to six per statement cycle. The rule distinguished between two types of accounts:

The six-withdrawal cap applied specifically to convenient transactions things like online transfers, bill pay, automatic payments and debit card purchases. In-person withdrawals and ATM transactions were always unlimited. Why the limit existed: The Federal Reserve used reserve requirements as a tool to control monetary policy. By limiting withdrawals on savings accounts, regulators helped banks maintain predictable cash reserves and drew a clear regulatory line between checking (reservable) and savings (non-reservable) deposits.
The 2020 rule change: What actually happened..................................
snip
Bluejeans
(148 posts)Banks and credit unions with Federal deposit insurance are safe.
If they have Federal, national, Fed, National Association or N.A in their name theyre probably covered by Federal deposit insurance. Call your bank or credit union to double check.
usedtobedemgurl
(2,003 posts)My recently deceased husband used to help me with a lot of these things, once I had my accident. Now I feel completely unsupported. I appreciate you.
Celerity
(54,159 posts)The Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation (FDIC) is an independent agency created by the Congress to maintain stability and public confidence in the nation's financial system by: insuring deposits; examining and supervising financial institutions for safety and soundness and consumer protection; making large and complex financial institutions resolvable; and managing the resolution of failed banks.
The FDIC was established under the Banking Act of 1933 in response to numerous bank failures during the Great Depression. The FDIC began insuring banks on January 1, 1934. Today, the basic insurance coverage amount for deposit accounts is $250,000.
The FDIC does not operate on funds appropriated by Congress. Its income is derived from insurance premiums on deposits held by insured banks and savings associations and from interest on the required investment of the premiums in U.S. Government securities. It also has authority to borrow from the Treasury up to $100 billion for insurance purposes.
Management of the FDIC consists of a five-member Board of Directors. The members include a Chairman, Vice Chairman, Appointive Director, the Comptroller of the Currency, and the Director of the Bureau of Consumer Financial Protection. No more than three members of the Board can be from the same political party.
markodochartaigh
(5,405 posts)The Trump Administration is Targeting the FDIC, Putting Americans Financial Wellbeing at Risk - Public Citizen https://share.google/Hfi90u5mQN1cLdeLT
SunSeeker
(58,165 posts)Bank customers' deposits are insured by the FDIC in case of bank collapse.
The rich assholes who invested in Blackrock and other private equity funds are not insured by the federal government for their losses. They could still get bailed out, however, like the government did with so many corporations did in 2008/2009.
The worry is it could trigger a panic and a larger meltdown of our economy.
usedtobedemgurl
(2,003 posts)SergeStorms
(20,415 posts)and hurts tRump, Musk, and every other shady S.O.B. I'm buying the first round at the pub.
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tazcat
(271 posts)the hell I hid it! Don't have much but it's all I have being alone.
usedtobedemgurl
(2,003 posts)Today I withdrew money from the bank because I needed to buy something and knew I emptied my wallet yesterday. Well, when I went to put the money in my wallet, there was a couple of hundred in there. I spent the entire day trying to figure out how it got there. No activity on any of my bank accounts! This is going to sound kooky but I think it is my deceased husband. He has done all kinds of things since he passed. The leaking faucet? Fixed. My dog will bark at nothing in the room. The lights blink. A couple of days ago I wanted the overhead light turned off but I did not want to get up. It turned off by itself. When I got up, I checked and the bulbs were not burned out.
But I get the money thing, although yours and mine are opposites. Did your tastes change at all? Things I used to love to eat I really do not like any more!
markodochartaigh
(5,405 posts)regular parachutes for the most well-connected accredited investors, everyone else goes down with the plane.
markodochartaigh
(5,405 posts)warning of possible problems with the banking system a while ago.
Uncle Joe
(64,855 posts)I think if you did, she would probably change the subject to Epstein, and we might make progress on that front.
Thanks for the thread riversedge
rubbersole
(11,157 posts)He'll get right on it. Well, as soon as the plane lands and the opening act for the Lee Greenwood concert scheduled for the Bosie High School gymnasium is over.
SergeStorms
(20,415 posts)lining up government funded flights to see his "girlfriend." Then he'll have to find someone to inflate her. 😉
BaronChocula
(4,418 posts)"THE STOCK MARKET IS AT 50!... wait... THE STOCK MARKET IS AT 49!... wait... THE STOCK MARKET IS AT 48!... wait... THE STOCK MARKET IS AT 47... wait..."
ProfessorGAC
(76,470 posts)...where that dimwit refers to the Dow as dollars!
The old "tell us you know nothing about xyz, without saying I know nothing about xyz".
BaronChocula
(4,418 posts)before she's shooed out for obeying orders.
617Blue
(2,335 posts)Seems pretty huge to me
flamingdem
(40,848 posts)Jamie Dimon of JP Morgan warned about this when he said there were cockroaches hiding that worried him in private equity.
That said, this happened last week with Blue Owl too.
Maru Kitteh
(31,571 posts)So, I ask those with (what you thought were) large accounts - did you actually fall for the suggestion that your money is really yours? The global oligarchy finds your notions amusing.
angrychair
(12,117 posts)Than the Savings and Loans Scandal.
The issue, I would assume, is the same thing that always causes these things to spiral out of control is the people that rush in to grab what they can, causes others to do the same and it starts eating its own tail until is collapses.
This could just be a minor hiccup or total economic collapse. It really depends on how people react to it.
That's my two cents. I'm just a person on the intertubes.
slightlv
(7,717 posts)no matter what he says about cutting SNAP and healthcare for millions of people. He's still spending OUR money like well, like it's OURS... because he never spends his own money on anything! All these golf vacations he takes every weekend... our tax dollars pay for those -- for all the secret service around him, and all their room costs and even trump's golfing costs! Chances are, we pay for his meals, too... while he takes food out of our mouths.
And let's not even get started on the "building projects" we're going to pay for that we don't want. We don't have the money for food for the people, but damn! trump has to have a new building with his name on it someplace... and WE pick up the tab.
And then there's all these countries he's bombing and the war of choice he started in Iran, along with Bib. I don't see Bibi pumping money into humanitarian causes for the US... we only supply the money and bombs for Bibi, he owes us nothing. He seems to owe everything to trump and putin.
When you add up what he spends of OUR money on a daily basis, is it any wonder he had DOGE going in and cutting every bit of money from every department they could? He wasn't going to spend any of HIS money on this crap.
He's taking us into complete and utter Great Depression 2.0 -- and none of us are capable of handling it this time around. The number of people who could grow their own food is pretty damned slim. I'm one of them, and I've tried. Got a house surrounded completely by shades tree. Great for lowering the energy bill... not so damned great when seeds and plants need sunlight to thrive. And there are a hell of a lot more people worse off than I am. At least I'm still in my own, fully-owned house -- as long as I can keep making the tax payments... which, of course, are going up again along with the house insurance. Nope, folks... this man spends money like its water because it's not his, and no one is stopping him. We're well into national bankruptcy, IMO.
OC375
(704 posts)None of us little folks can slide our little 401k's around with mercurial speed and ease. They can ride this out with the rest of us. If you are too big to fail, you were too big to begin with. If we all go broke, we'll be in good company.
LiberalArkie
(19,660 posts)NEW YORK, March 6 (Reuters) - BlackRock said on Friday it has limited withdrawals from a flagship debt fund after a surge in redemption requests, as investor worries mount around the $2 trillion private credit industry.
Shares of the world's largest asset manager fell 6.7% on the New York Stock Exchange, amid a broader market selloff after worse-than-expected U.S. jobs data and escalating U.S.-Israeli war against Iran.
Sentiment has soured around private credit in recent months, and retail investors are increasingly asking for their money back from funds like BlackRock's $26 billion HPS Corporate Lending Fund (HLEND), which were designed to be open to wealthy individuals.
"It should serve as a warning sign for the industry and the rulemakers about the downside of illiquid funds for retail investors," said Greggory Warren, senior stock analyst at Morningstar.
Last year's bankruptcies of a U.S. auto parts supplier and a subprime auto lender, along with the collapse of a UK mortgage lender last week, have raised questions about lending standards.
Earlier this week, mounting requests prompted rival Blackstone to lift the usual 5% redemption limit on a $82 billion fund to 7%, while the company and its employees invested $400 million to allow all requests to be met. Blue Owl bought back 15.4% of one of its funds in January.
Scrivener7
(59,290 posts)into the pot.
SamuelTheThird
(919 posts)Posted this once before
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/why-private-credit-is-creating-major-concerns-among-economists
Buddyzbuddy
(2,429 posts)BaronChocula
(4,418 posts)or should I say lambda? ƛ
OC375
(704 posts)Stock market wasnt enough, huh?