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everyonematters

(4,097 posts)
Sun Mar 8, 2026, 10:33 AM Sunday

Today's NBC News poll.

Last edited Sun Mar 8, 2026, 01:19 PM - Edit history (1)

Independent's view of the two major parties:
Democrats 13% favorable
Republicans 16% favorable

According to Gallup's latest poll independents make up 45% of the electorate. The party that can convince these voters that they are going to make a positive difference in their lives, can become the dominant party. Democrats need to expand their appeal beyond the base.

In Texas, Talarico won the Democratic primary because he appealed these voters. He didn't make it all about the Republicans; he made it about them.

Somehow in recent decades the Democratic Party became less about winning elections and making a difference in people's lives, to more about just belonging, causing the problem of not relating to the rest of society.

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Today's NBC News poll. (Original Post) everyonematters Sunday OP
Yeah that always works so well NoRethugFriends Sunday #1
So so-called Independents displacedvermoter Sunday #2
Same here PatSeg Sunday #7
Sunday Morning Gasbags displacedvermoter Sunday #8
Perfect description PatSeg Sunday #13
Perfect description PatSeg Sunday #14
And the same assortment of dumb ass lying ad campaigns to convince them they are smart to vote for the GOP. mdbl Sunday #16
Yes, indeed! displacedvermoter Sunday #17
Well if Democrats would quit DenaliDemocrat Sunday #3
Independents are not all "moderates" Fiendish Thingy Sunday #5
Some might say guns are a "Social Justice" issue displacedvermoter Sunday #11
Guns are a losing issue DenaliDemocrat Yesterday #18
Sorry about your Browning displacedvermoter 17 hrs ago #24
See, it's just this attitude DenaliDemocrat 14 hrs ago #25
I hear you. Omnipresent 14 hrs ago #28
Yes. And it's affects a TINY fraction of people DenaliDemocrat 12 hrs ago #32
I still feel bad that your Browning takes precedent over lots of other issues displacedvermoter 11 hrs ago #36
I actually believe DenaliDemocrat 11 hrs ago #38
I actually own a Bushmaster AR 15 displacedvermoter 10 hrs ago #40
I don't own an AR15 DenaliDemocrat 10 hrs ago #42
It (2nd Amendment) is supposed to displacedvermoter 9 hrs ago #44
I have absolutely no idea WTF DenaliDemocrat 5 hrs ago #46
I believe I said NRA types claim they need displacedvermoter 5 hrs ago #47
What's wrong with unisex rest rooms if the door locks from the inside? The Wizard 14 hrs ago #26
There is nothing wrong with them DenaliDemocrat 12 hrs ago #33
False dichotomy; Americans do not like guns. jimmy the one 12 hrs ago #35
I reject your false narrative. DenaliDemocrat 11 hrs ago #39
Been saying for decades Cosmocat 20 hrs ago #19
Add lowering speed limits to 2 Polybius 20 hrs ago #20
Problem with taking the bait exboyfil 14 hrs ago #27
Is this the Gallop poll that stopped doing polls that unfavorable to Trump? Enough said. It's a new reality out there. dem4decades Sunday #4
A good PR campaign would help us a lot. And it's not hard to do. Scrivener7 Sunday #6
Define "Independent" usonian Sunday #9
Gallup is not reliable SamuelTheThird Sunday #10
There is no such thing as an kacekwl Sunday #12
The current state everyonematters Sunday #15
The problem is the Americans and their selfishness Keepthesoulalive 13 hrs ago #31
The problem is always messaging Takket 19 hrs ago #21
T H I S Cosmocat 18 hrs ago #22
BUT this has been an issue for decades. We took Scrivener7 13 hrs ago #30
What bs. ananda 17 hrs ago #23
Democrats need to stop edging to the right every time an election doesn't go their way. sboatcar 14 hrs ago #29
Is there any evidence for that? The Revolution 11 hrs ago #37
Right on schedule Cirsium 12 hrs ago #34
I guess that's why they are self-described Independents? Zambero 10 hrs ago #41
No third party,. Republican/Independent/non-voters aren't secretly socialist/progressive populists yearning to rise betsuni 9 hrs ago #43
Huh. Democrats polling at 13 percent? Wednesdays 9 hrs ago #45

displacedvermoter

(4,246 posts)
2. So so-called Independents
Sun Mar 8, 2026, 10:42 AM
Sunday

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Don't really like either party, and can't tell the difference, and so again we have to wait until the very last second to determine which ad campaign is the most effective come November?

And we will still have the same assortment of dumb ass Independent and Undecided voters on panels telling us they don't know enough about the candidates to be able to discern between a fascist and a progressive.

God I hate Sunday talk shows and the drivel they put forth


mdbl

(8,552 posts)
16. And the same assortment of dumb ass lying ad campaigns to convince them they are smart to vote for the GOP.
Sun Mar 8, 2026, 02:28 PM
Sunday

It always seems to work on certain groups so they repeat it every election cycle.

displacedvermoter

(4,246 posts)
17. Yes, indeed!
Sun Mar 8, 2026, 02:54 PM
Sunday

Not to mention our own batch of political consultants, rehashing ideas that worked for Clinton and Obama. Not working so well now.

DenaliDemocrat

(1,763 posts)
3. Well if Democrats would quit
Sun Mar 8, 2026, 10:52 AM
Sunday

1) taking the bait on social issues that are rare and set to basically bait them

2) quit putting losing agendas (yes, I’m talking guns) At the front of the platform and

3) focus on economic and social JUSTICE issues - they would win

We ALWAYS take the bait. ALWAYS

Fiendish Thingy

(22,890 posts)
5. Independents are not all "moderates"
Sun Mar 8, 2026, 11:03 AM
Sunday

The data I have seen, including Pew Research surveys with sample sizes in the tens of thousands, show that the majority of moderates (and actually all Americans) support progressive policies when they aren’t identified with a particular party.

This includes sensible gun control laws, as well MFA, reproductive rights, LGBT rights, raising the minimum wage and raising taxes in billionaires.

The only consistent exceptions are the narrow wedge issue of trans teens in sports and immigration, although opinions on the latter have changed significantly over the past year.

DenaliDemocrat

(1,763 posts)
18. Guns are a losing issue
Mon Mar 9, 2026, 01:07 AM
Yesterday

Americans like guns. I own guns. I believe in sensible gun laws. We are promoting some fairly extreme gun laws. Colorado passed a law that will make my Browning Auto Five illegal. That’s bad. Really bad. It’s going to hurt the Dems in the next election. It’s a losing battle.

Unisex bathrooms = losing battle. Leave it alone. It’s a minor issue. Worry about it after we get some economic reforms.

We know it’s a snake and we always pick it up.

DenaliDemocrat

(1,763 posts)
25. See, it's just this attitude
Mon Mar 9, 2026, 10:59 AM
14 hrs ago

That makes us lose. The condescending snide remarks. My Brownong Auto Five has been around for 75 years. Along with the Remmington 1100 they are probably only second to the Remmington 870 as iconic shotguns. How many pheasants have been taken with them? Countless.

This is the shit that makes us lose.

Omnipresent

(7,410 posts)
28. I hear you.
Mon Mar 9, 2026, 11:13 AM
14 hrs ago

Before the 2024 election, i kept hearing people online and in person expressing themselves about not wanting men in women’s sports.

That turned out to be a “wedge issue” that helped drive voters to the polls…to vote for republicans.
The party did nothing to dispel this talk. All that was said is Kamala has momentum.

DenaliDemocrat

(1,763 posts)
32. Yes. And it's affects a TINY fraction of people
Mon Mar 9, 2026, 12:56 PM
12 hrs ago

That probably needs to be addressed on a 1 on 1 situation. Each case is unique. Each case deserves its own scrutiny. That’s all that has to be said “It’s complicated and each case should be examined and evaluated on its own merit”.

As for Kamala, California Democrats aren’t winning Nationwide elections. It’s not going to happen

displacedvermoter

(4,246 posts)
36. I still feel bad that your Browning takes precedent over lots of other issues
Mon Mar 9, 2026, 02:02 PM
11 hrs ago

And besides, I thought it was just determined that Harris lost because she was pro-genocide, unlike her opponent who was opposed to war in general.

And her sex and race likely had nothing to do with, either, I think you are saying.

DenaliDemocrat

(1,763 posts)
38. I actually believe
Mon Mar 9, 2026, 02:39 PM
11 hrs ago

Being from California was the #1 issue. Not race or gender.

As for my gun, yes. I live in an area where we have less than 2 people per square mile - it’s still classified as the frontier.

I’m sorry that you don’t take the Bill of Rights seriously and are willing to give up your rights. The Supreme Court ruled (and I believe correctly) the Second Amendment is an individual right, because the first ten kind of are geared to that paradigm.

displacedvermoter

(4,246 posts)
40. I actually own a Bushmaster AR 15
Mon Mar 9, 2026, 03:04 PM
10 hrs ago

And as a former USAF security policeman am extremely proficient with it, and I take the entire Constitution to be a sacred document I swore to uphold.

And as Charles Pierce says regularly, of course it was not about race, it's never about race.

DenaliDemocrat

(1,763 posts)
42. I don't own an AR15
Mon Mar 9, 2026, 03:40 PM
10 hrs ago

Because I have no use for it. I DO however own a .338 RUM that shoot a 250 grain bullet at 2900 fps. When you live where the bears are as big as 4H steers - size matters.

displacedvermoter

(4,246 posts)
44. It (2nd Amendment) is supposed to
Mon Mar 9, 2026, 04:39 PM
9 hrs ago

protect us from unconstitutional infringements, right? Don't see a lot of serious 2nd Amendment enthusiasts up in arms -- pun intended -- as we see all manner of criminal and extra legal activity being carried out by our government, in the same fashion we saw them screaming when Obama was going to take away their rights, which he never planned to do. Why is that, do you think?

Not about race, though, it is never about race

DenaliDemocrat

(1,763 posts)
46. I have absolutely no idea WTF
Mon Mar 9, 2026, 07:57 PM
5 hrs ago

You are trying to convey. That was not coherent. Care to actually string a few cogent sentences with actual context together?

displacedvermoter

(4,246 posts)
47. I believe I said NRA types claim they need
Mon Mar 9, 2026, 08:04 PM
5 hrs ago

To keep their guns to protect us from the government, but it seems to be the case only when they are afraid of black leaders and women they are not inclined to trust. I believe most gun humpers are racist cowards who don't seem as concerned with Trump and ICE fucking with society.

Plain enough, coherent, clear?

The Wizard

(13,686 posts)
26. What's wrong with unisex rest rooms if the door locks from the inside?
Mon Mar 9, 2026, 11:09 AM
14 hrs ago

I see them everywhere with no issues.

DenaliDemocrat

(1,763 posts)
33. There is nothing wrong with them
Mon Mar 9, 2026, 01:00 PM
12 hrs ago

However, there is also nothing wrong with separate men and women’s, especially consider urinals speed up things for men, thus allowing smaller bathrooms with fewer stalls.

It doesn’t need to be politicized. Honestly, it just needs to be let go.

jimmy the one

(2,793 posts)
35. False dichotomy; Americans do not like guns.
Mon Mar 9, 2026, 01:47 PM
12 hrs ago

You: Americans like guns. I own guns.

I reject this premise. Only 32% of Americans personally own a gun, so the solid majority do not.
About 40 to 44% American households have a gun, ergo over 55% of households do not, a Supreme Court majority at 5 to 4.
In other words, most Americans do NOT like firearms. To me they have become more a threat than a safety measure, more the problem than the solution.
I used to own a s&w 5 shot pump 12 gauge but never hunted. Also a ruger 22 cal short rifle semiauto. Got rid of them after I left the navy, where I was a marksman, and became appalled at the gun lobby. The ruger I only ever shot into soft ground once a year to ensure it still worked. Some skeet with the sg. Will never own a gun again.

You contend Colorado passed a law to make your browning shotgun (I presume) illegal.
This is not what this website says .. the bill does not ban the current possession of these firearms.
.. the bill does not ban the possession of these semi-automatic firearms. Current owners would be allowed to keep their rifles, pistols, and shotguns... (but could not purchase new, transfer or sell..)
https://www.themeateater.com/hunt/firearm-hunting/what-hunters-should-know-about-colorados-first-in-the-nation-gun-ban

I sort of agree (I thinks) on one issue, that of banning assault rifles/weapons. The horse are out of the barn. In 2004 when the clinton assault rifle ban was not renewed by republicans under gwbush, there were approx 400,000 assault rifles in America. Today 20 years later there are estimated 10 to 20 millions. The horse are out of the barn; a new awb would be a cosmetic fix but do little towards blunting mass shootings or carnage from the ar15 and those two NATO rounds, .223.
A 10 round magazine limit I would go with, but regrettably, let any federal assault weapon ban be abandoned. Would help appease pro gun democrats, such as yourself.
I agree with banning trans athletes achieving fame, wolves in sheeps clothing.
Cheers Denali.

--- Not an ego, jimmy the one is a British naval term-----

DenaliDemocrat

(1,763 posts)
39. I reject your false narrative.
Mon Mar 9, 2026, 02:45 PM
11 hrs ago

I never said it outlawed the possession of my Auto 5. It makes it ILLEGAL to sell or buy - and it’s stupid.

I support 1) universal background checks

I support 2) mental health checks for purchases

I don’t support dummies who try to outlaw a shotgun that has been carried afield by over 2.7 million hunters.

Cosmocat

(15,399 posts)
19. Been saying for decades
Mon Mar 9, 2026, 05:12 AM
20 hrs ago

That Ds always lose on "culture" issues and need to gtfo out of them.

Personally, I believe they were right to push for firearm control, but agree that we are now well past the point that its a hopeless cause and they should publicly take it off the table.

Polybius

(21,804 posts)
20. Add lowering speed limits to 2
Mon Mar 9, 2026, 05:24 AM
20 hrs ago

I don't know why we take that stupid position. I'm not talking 70 mph or anything like that. I'm talking lowering the NYC speed limit to 20 mph.

exboyfil

(18,355 posts)
27. Problem with taking the bait
Mon Mar 9, 2026, 11:10 AM
14 hrs ago

1. No response or a response not widely disseminated allows the narrative to be set.

2. Agree with you on guns.

3. Define social justice. We are currently seeing the response to the blanket statement that there is no reverse discrimination. Any action that is race based is going to be a loser for quite some time.

dem4decades

(13,968 posts)
4. Is this the Gallop poll that stopped doing polls that unfavorable to Trump? Enough said. It's a new reality out there.
Sun Mar 8, 2026, 10:55 AM
Sunday

usonian

(24,743 posts)
9. Define "Independent"
Sun Mar 8, 2026, 12:02 PM
Sunday

I happen to know someone (ahem) who registered as independent for years just to have way more leverage in these "polls" than Democrats or Republicans.

everyonematters

(4,097 posts)
15. The current state
Sun Mar 8, 2026, 01:20 PM
Sunday

Somehow in recent decades the Democratic Party became less about winning elections and making a difference in people's lives, to more about just belonging, causing the problem of not relating to the rest of society.

Keepthesoulalive

(2,236 posts)
31. The problem is the Americans and their selfishness
Mon Mar 9, 2026, 12:34 PM
13 hrs ago

The democrats tried to get a healthcare bill passed and the public said socialism and they are gonna kill grandma. Single issue voters and voters that are easily swayed by bull crap.

Takket

(23,665 posts)
21. The problem is always messaging
Mon Mar 9, 2026, 06:22 AM
19 hrs ago

Specifically the right wing cesspool that is the media and social media now.

Indies hate the gop because the see they are awful. Big they hate the democrats because everyone is TELLING them Democrats are awful.

Scrivener7

(59,329 posts)
30. BUT this has been an issue for decades. We took
Mon Mar 9, 2026, 12:05 PM
13 hrs ago

control of social media under Obama and it made a big difference, but we lost that edge.

Decades. It's time we came up with a solution. For example, I've read that 80% of the social media misinformation in the 2015 campaign came from 80 social media accounts plus bots.

We need to do that.

ananda

(34,936 posts)
23. What bs.
Mon Mar 9, 2026, 07:54 AM
17 hrs ago

kFor the past 25 years we've been
dealing with corrupt Republican politicians and courts
gsming elections criminally in their favor.

sboatcar

(829 posts)
29. Democrats need to stop edging to the right every time an election doesn't go their way.
Mon Mar 9, 2026, 11:33 AM
14 hrs ago

There's a LOT of people further on the left that don't vote or vote third party because of the gradual march toward the right that a lot of establishment democrats have taken. We need to be aggressive progressives and stop trying to pander to those on the right who won't vote for democrats anyway.

The Revolution

(888 posts)
37. Is there any evidence for that?
Mon Mar 9, 2026, 02:16 PM
11 hrs ago

I've seen it claimed many times that there is this vast pool of far left voters just waiting to be activated. But is there any evidence that that is the case?

My understanding was that was the theory Jasmine Crockett was running on, but she didn't even win the Democratic primary.

Seems like it should be easy to test though. Take some of these "safe" Republican seats and run someone way to the left. If the theory is true, we should see the candidates at least overperform expectations or other recent candidates.

And even if this pool of voters does exist, part of me wants to say "fuck 'em" if they still can't see the difference between the parties.

Zambero

(9,965 posts)
41. I guess that's why they are self-described Independents?
Mon Mar 9, 2026, 03:05 PM
10 hrs ago

As most have opined that both major parties leave something to be desired? I have a pretty good sense of which party's candidates these 71% of poll respondents would favor if the election were held today, and it would not be the MAGA-Trump party.

betsuni

(28,990 posts)
43. No third party,. Republican/Independent/non-voters aren't secretly socialist/progressive populists yearning to rise
Mon Mar 9, 2026, 04:35 PM
9 hrs ago

up in solidarity against old meanie out-of-touch wealthy elite Democrats ignoring us with things "not relating to the rest of society" like health care, Social Security, infrastructure, civil rights, voting rights, economic and environmental regulations and green technology, good relationships with other countries and diplomacy, reproductive freedom, support of unions and education and science, taxing the wealthy and corporations, student debt relief, etc. -- government that works.

The Democratic Party does make positive differences in people's lives, of course. Don't understand the point of this OP.

Wednesdays

(22,382 posts)
45. Huh. Democrats polling at 13 percent?
Mon Mar 9, 2026, 04:45 PM
9 hrs ago

So that's why we've won every special election since 2025?
Every. Single. One.

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