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Innocent civilians targeted by Iran for absolutely no reason.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/video/2026/mar/01/iranian-drone-strike-high-rise-building-bahrain-manama-video
JBTaurus83
(1,184 posts)Since no countries involved follow any type of engagement rules, it wont get any better.
Who started this?
sarisataka
(22,549 posts)Yesterday attacking a water treatment plant was a war crime. When Iran did it today against a non-combatant country... crickets
JBTaurus83
(1,184 posts)But, Ive said all three countries are committing crimes. Would you say that the USA and Israel have followed the rules of engagement..or is it crickets?
sarisataka
(22,549 posts)There has been a lot if criticism of attacks on Iran, including my own criticism since day one.
Melon
(1,448 posts)The desalination attack is only Iran saying this with zero way of checking. The same quote is getting past around. US said no. I very much question the validity at this point.
JBTaurus83
(1,184 posts)The girls school, the unarmed ship that was sunk with no effort to save survivors (even Japan and the Nazis did that), or Tehran being enveloped in toxic fumes and chemicals that will poison the water supply? To name a few.
Melon
(1,448 posts)Because Im questioning the Iranian report on the desalination report?
Qeshm Island Has 150,000 people and is not on mainland Iran. Dont doesnt make a lot of sense when the US has nothing stopping it from taking our large facilities.
I was in a translated Iran site that was initially posting this and a lot of the stories looked like fiction. I was hoping your follow up was a that someone has validated it.
sarisataka
(22,549 posts)Iran has not claimed the ship was unarmed, only internet "sources". There are now also "sources" saying the ship was warned twice.
BTW in WW2 the US also waged unrestricted submarine warfare. Adm. Nimitz was called as a witness for the defense at Nuremberg.
SamuelTheThird
(947 posts)So, not a non-combatant country.
US, Israel and Iran are all freely flouting laws and rules
sarisataka
(22,549 posts)They are a non-beligerent not a combatant.
Regardless of terminology, yesterday attacking civilian infrastructure was a war crime...
AloeVera
(4,176 posts)Thank you.
I waited two and a half years for you and others to admit that.
Eko
(9,948 posts)sarisataka
(22,549 posts)But not necessarily in the way you meant.
sarisataka
(22,549 posts)Condemn Iran for committing war crimes?
Eko
(9,948 posts)However, you did say this. "Innocent civilians targeted by Iran for absolutely no reason."
As if being attacked first is no reason.
As if having one of their schools bombed and 170 people mainly kids being killed is no reason.
As if having their desalination plant bombed is no reason.
As if killing 70,000 people in Gaza where conservative estimates put at least half are civilians is no reason.
But ya, absolutely no reason.
sarisataka
(22,549 posts)But the who started it seems an tacit acceptance. Even though Bahrain did not start it
Eko
(9,948 posts)seems like a tacit acceptance that you think it is ok if it happens to them. Right? It seems like it right? How wrong would I be to assume that?
Bahrain is the base of the US 5th fleet.
sarisataka
(22,549 posts)Starting day one- so let's just burn that strawman and pretend it never existed.
Yes Bahrain is the HQ if the 5th Fleet (I've been there in person). That is a US owned military target and I didn't say a word against Iran for targeting it.
I am against Iran attacking civilian targets and attacking countries that have not attacked them.
Eko
(9,948 posts)I never created a strawman, I just showed yours and asked you to see how wrong it was and admit it. Something you still haven't done.
I'm glad you agree that Bahrain is the headquarters of the 5th fleet. Now that we have that fact nailed down lets revisit.
Bahrain US 5th fleet.
US attacked Iran first.
And there is still no reason for Iran to attack Bahrain? None at all?
Personally the attack on civilians was wrong but I would not say that they have no reason. Their entire country was attacked not by one country but by two. Me not agreeing with their reason and claiming that they have none are two wildly different things. Imagine if I claimed that Israel had no reason to attack all of the civilians in Gaza? That would be wrong right? They had a reason I just think it was 100% wrong. Wouldn't me claiming that they had no reason just invalidate everything that happened on Oct 7th? If you can see that then you can see why I said what I said.
sarisataka
(22,549 posts)I literally just said I condemned the attacks on Iran.
Eko
(9,948 posts)sarisataka
(22,549 posts)(Mea culpa for not adding quotation marks)
You claimed I still had not condemned the attacks on Iran, which I had done in the past you replied to and elsewhere.
Eko
(9,948 posts)"I never created a strawman, I just showed yours and asked you to see how wrong it was and admit it. Something you still haven't done. "
What was your strawman?
"But the who started it seems an tacit acceptance."
And my example that you never admitted was wrong?
"Of course you leaving out the facts that the same thing has happened against Iran seems like a tacit acceptance that you think it is ok if it happens to them. Right? It seems like it right? How wrong would I be to assume that? "
See how you assumed that I thought it was ok because my answer back to you didnt state that I was against it but only stated that they had reasons is a strawman just like if I assumed you were ok with it on the other side because your statement never said you werent against it is the same thing?
If you have posts where you stated that and I replied back to you then feel free to show them.
sarisataka
(22,549 posts)Here is what I am against-
All of the attacks on Iran
Iranian attacks on noncombatants*
Attacks on civilians in Iran, Israel and any other countries.
*I do not condemn Iranian attacks against US military targets (airfields, radar installations, the 5th Fleet HQ) in the Gulf countries- a military response to an unjustified attack is reasonable.
Eko
(9,948 posts)sarisataka
(22,549 posts)However, since Iran was attacked, I do not expect them to sit back and take it without response any more than I would expect it of any other country.
ColoringFool
(580 posts)Let's not lose sight of the casus belli.
PeaceWave
(3,186 posts)was to target innocent civilians in a third country. In this case, Bahrain.
sarisataka
(22,549 posts)MarineCombatEngineer
(18,004 posts)war crimes any more than it excuses Israel and US war crimes.
pcdb
(101 posts)Eko
(9,948 posts)Bahrain is the home of the US fifth fleet.
AloeVera
(4,176 posts)Further, they are co-located in the capital city of Manama, among residential areas.
Oh the irony...
https://www.military.com/feature/2026/02/28/attack-us-navy-fifth-fleet-headquarters-bahrain.html
Note that the 5th Fleet and Central Command were struck on the same night as the video in the o/p was taken. Just how close was that building?
Eko
(9,948 posts)Video geolocated and verified by CNN shows Iranian Shahed drones striking the upper floors of the Era Views Tower in Manama, Bahrain, a residential high-rise roughly a mile from a US Navy base.
AloeVera
(4,176 posts)Thanks.
EX500rider
(12,465 posts)AloeVera
(4,176 posts)They were told of the consequences and didn't care.
Every missile, bomb and drone is a terror weapon. Just ask the millions terrorized by them - though most are dead.
The US has the most terror weapons in the world. Israre just acquired another 27,000 from the U.S. - without congressional approval.
Justice matters.
(9,682 posts)A few story up from where that clip was taped.
EX500rider
(12,465 posts)WarGamer
(18,505 posts)Eko
(9,948 posts)This war started on 02-28-26.
Eko
(9,948 posts)But that would be stupid to do so. This war has a defined start and its 02-28-26.
sarisataka
(22,549 posts)because reasons
MarineCombatEngineer
(18,004 posts)just because Israel and the US, IMHO, are committing war crimes doesn't mean that Iran can go criticism free when they commit war crimes.
JBTaurus83
(1,184 posts)This has been a disaster.
ColoringFool
(580 posts)MarineCombatEngineer
(18,004 posts)You can't criticize just Isael and the US for war crimes but stay silent on Iran's war crimes, well, you can, but that would be highly hypocritical.
ColoringFool
(580 posts)sarisataka
(22,549 posts)When those countries did not attack Iran?
artemisia1
(1,779 posts)areas where intelligence and military personnel are quartered.
sarisataka
(22,549 posts)Apartments, and desalination plants. If we don't count those and Cyprus or Azerbaijan it is mostly US military targets.
artemisia1
(1,779 posts)in direct retaliation for an Iranian plant hit the day before. It was them saying we can do the same to you. I do think it was unwise of Iran to do this, but they did have a reason.
sarisataka
(22,549 posts)Even when the country struck did not launch the attack?
As of this moment, we have no proof anyone struck the Iranian desalination plant besides their say so. I'm not denying it happened but so far Iran has not hesitated to release pictures and videos of damage from attacks. So far they have not shown the plant in question.
PeaceWave
(3,186 posts)artemisia1
(1,779 posts)but both Israel and the U.S. do indiscriminate bombing to collapse societies and governments.
Renew Deal
(84,962 posts)The person filming was a few feet from being vaporized
Boo1
(299 posts)I probably wouldn't care if I hit a few civilian targets either.
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ColoringFool
(580 posts)MarineCombatEngineer
(18,004 posts)My dad was one of the original Seabees and was slated to be in the initial invasion wave, which he more than likely wouldn't have survived.
If not for Pres. Truman authorizing the dropping of the bomb, I, and millions of other children their children, their children's children etc., wouldn't be here so don't give me that nonsense that bringing the war to an end using the bomb was a war crime.
It's certainly easy to sit on your high horse and declare it a war crime, but you weren't there were you?
You weren't facing imminent death or injury invading a country that was willing to commit mass suicide attacks against US forces were you?
RockRaven
(19,132 posts)sop
(18,344 posts)but some are more to blame than others.
Nictuku
(4,640 posts)The media just doesn't report on it. A major reason I stopped watching MSM.
MustLoveBeagles
(15,829 posts)US & Israel attacking Iran is wrong. Iran attacking other countries is also wrong.
AloeVera
(4,176 posts)The US 5th Navy Fleet and Central Command is located in the capital of Bahrain. They would have coordinated and carried out the sinking of the Iranian fleet and other attacks including the assassination of Iran's leaders.
Should Iran just take it? Would the US or any other nation under these circumstances?
Attacking civilian buildings and infrastructure ON PURPOSE is always wrong. I also think all war is demonically evil, dangerous and stupid. That's why it should never be started in bad faith and under false pretenses.
OC375
(723 posts)And, if true but an accident on their part, then it calls into question their narrative on the girls school, desalination, etc
AloeVera
(4,176 posts)Are they using HUMAN SHIELDS???!!!
For two plus years we were told that is a war crime. And for that reason, Israel had NO CHOICE but to level Gaza.
Attacking civilians and their infrastructure is wrong, no matter who does it or what stories are made up to justify it.
sarisataka
(22,549 posts)The 5th Fleet HQ is in Manama however is is on the coast. It is not downtown, co-located with a hospital nor underneath apartment buildings.
There are some civilian facilities near the base and some residential areas not too far away. It would be regrettable for attacks on the HQ to cause collateral damage, but understandable.
AloeVera
(4,176 posts)Glad you mentioned they are near civilian and residential areas.
On edit:
Only a road seems to separate the compound from hotels, malls and residential highrises.
Here is what wiki says about the neighbourhood:
Juffair is a modern, vibrant, and highly sought-after, expat-centric district in southeastern Manama, Bahrain. Originally a village, it was absorbed by suburban growth and now features reclaimed land, residential towers, malls, and restaurants. It is notably home to the U.S. Naval Support Activity (NSA) Bahrain.
sarisataka
(22,549 posts)I have been to NSA, Bahrain and since it was some time ago, I imagine there would be more build up around the base.
Damage to those civilian structures resulting from attacks on the base I would consider collateral damage. It happens in war and I will apply standards equally.
Attacking a water treatment plant nowhere near any military target is not justified. Even if it happened to the attacking country- one crime does not give a pass for another.
EX500rider
(12,465 posts)Human shields?
Justice matters.
(9,682 posts)War-Criminals' EMPIRE much?
Yeah. Wattabout Universal Healthcare for everyone within the US borders.
Oh... can't have that. War costs a lot of the middle-class's taxes. (not the billionaire's tax cuts)
And a lot of interests to pay coming up for a millenium.
Iggo
(49,877 posts)Blues Heron
(8,685 posts)gulliver
(13,904 posts)The Islamic Republic regime thinks if they just attack random, innocent civilians, they can get their military enemies to back off. It's just hostage taking by another name. It's not going to work. Everyone wants the hornets gone.
uncle ray
(3,338 posts)JI7
(93,491 posts)Iran has been funding terrorism for decades.