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ret5hd

(22,438 posts)
Sun Mar 8, 2026, 07:36 PM 13 hrs ago

Don't forget what their end goal is...they have told us...

but —we. don’t. listen—.

thiel, musk et al are blatantly loudly telling us, but we don’t listen.

they want to collapse “the west”…more specifically the usa. they then will divy up the public lands/resources/power sources/sources of income amongst themselves like the russian oligarchs…but further.

each area/city/“zone” will be turned into a fiefdom…like a giant HOA, but more evil. your actions/movements/habits monitored. ejection/banishment, with no right to travel between fiefdoms to secure other work. your “pay” will be in a sort of “scrip”…bitcoin or some such that is only accepted in your area.

they want to depopulate. they have discussed how efficient climate change is in this regard. that is why everything must be coal, oil, natural gas, forest destruction , etc.

when they have essentialy emptied the rural areas, those areas will essentially become populated by what are commonly called “man camps” in the oil fields…rows and rows of portable buildings, always ready to be moved to the next worksite, manned by desperate and hungry serfs.

trump is —intent— on making this happen. so intent he must use/deplete all possible defenses against true foreign aggression in places like Venezuela, Iran, Cuba, et al…this is all an effort to unilaterally disarm us.

i don’t know…what do you think? they have wanted this for SO long…your land, your money, your freedoms…our public riches…for their idea of Elysium…—you— are the slave, you are the chattel, you are a resource to be exploited.

that is what we are up against. if we don’t focus on the enemies end-goals, we tend to misidentify the tactics and strategies.

ok…rant over.

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Morbius

(972 posts)
4. This is a nice thought, but...
Sun Mar 8, 2026, 08:20 PM
13 hrs ago

I can't trust it. We must make them fail. We cannot simply assume they will fail.

Fiendish Thingy

(22,877 posts)
5. Who's assuming?
Sun Mar 8, 2026, 08:27 PM
13 hrs ago

I follow the one absolute truth that has been proven repeatedly:

The oligarchs are not omnipotent, and the people are not powerless.

Dave says

(5,395 posts)
6. Ever read anything by Curtis Yarvin?
Sun Mar 8, 2026, 08:36 PM
12 hrs ago

Sounds exactly like what Yarvin proposes. Yarvin is the Court Philosopher for many of the techno oligarchs. Very scary stuff, especially knowing that these crazy ideas may indeed be floating around in the brains of many rich and powerful technocrats.

ret5hd

(22,438 posts)
7. heard of, watched some short videos about...
Sun Mar 8, 2026, 09:16 PM
12 hrs ago

butt the guy was so utterly totally creepy i couldn’t stand it. the psychopathy was so blatantly obvious and uninhibited that i couldn’t watch very long…and THIS is their guru!

erronis

(23,562 posts)
11. Wikipedia's intro on this person. Another nutcase but with rich idiots slavering over him. Ayn Rand redux?
Sun Mar 8, 2026, 09:53 PM
11 hrs ago
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curtis_Yarvin

Curtis Guy Yarvin (born 1973), also known by the pen name Mencius Moldbug, is an American far-right political blogger and software developer.[1][2][3] He is known, along with accelerationist philosopher Nick Land, for founding the anti-egalitarian and anti-democratic philosophical movement known as the Dark Enlightenment or neo-reactionary movement (NRx), which originated in the late 2000s.[4][5][6][7][2] By the early 2020s, Yarvin and his ideas were noted as having growing ideological influence in the American Right, including among prominent figures such as Vice President JD Vance, and venture capitalist and Republican megadonor Peter Thiel.[2][8][9]

In his blog Unqualified Reservations, which he wrote from 2007 to 2014, and in his later newsletter Gray Mirror, which he started in 2020, he argues that American democracy is a failed experiment[10] that should be replaced by an accountable monarchy, similar to the governance structure of corporations.[11] In 2002, Yarvin began work on a personal software project that eventually became the Urbit networked computing platform. In 2013, he co-founded the company Tlon to oversee the Urbit project and helped lead it until 2019.[12] He made a return to the company in 2024, described as having a "wartime C.E.O." role.[13]

Yarvin has been described as a "neo-reactionary", "neo-monarchist" and "neo-feudalist" who "sees liberalism as creating a Matrix-like totalitarian system, and who wants to replace American democracy with a sort of techno-monarchy".[14][15][16][17] He has defended the institution of slavery, and has suggested that certain races may be more naturally inclined toward servitude than others.[3][18] He has argued that whites have inherently higher IQs than black people,[18] and opposes U.S. civil rights programs.[19]

Yarvin has influenced some prominent Silicon Valley investors and Republican politicians. Political strategist Steve Bannon has read and admired his work.[20] Vice President JD Vance "has cited Yarvin as an influence himself".[21][22][8] Michael Anton, the State Department Director of Policy Planning during Trump's second presidency, has also discussed Yarvin's ideas.[2] In January 2025, Yarvin attended a Trump inaugural gala in Washington; Politico reported he was "an informal guest of honor" due to his "outsize influence over the Trumpian right".[23]

Jack Valentino

(4,873 posts)
8. Raising the 'work requirements' age for SNAP and Medicaid from 54 to 64 supports your thesis....!
Sun Mar 8, 2026, 09:40 PM
11 hrs ago

"GET TO WORK, YOU LAZY OLD PEOPLE PLAYING VIDEO GAMES!
(We have to replace all the immigrant labor whom we are deporting!)"


Sorry, but I'm too old to do farm work--- except in my own backyard!

ret5hd

(22,438 posts)
10. farm work in your backyard is EASY...
Sun Mar 8, 2026, 09:48 PM
11 hrs ago

no whips
no expulsion for low production
real food instead of 8:00 PM lineup for gruel

Jack Valentino

(4,873 posts)
15. .... and fresh cucumbers every morning for breakfast! (while in season!)
Sun Mar 8, 2026, 10:12 PM
11 hrs ago

Just have to try to fight off the groundhogs who keep trying to wreck my garden

(every single one of them I see is named 'Trump' !)


This year I intend to wipe them out before planting season,
if they are still here.....

YES, I am a 'nature lover' and they can be quite cute---
but it seems it is 'them or ME' !


erronis

(23,562 posts)
12. and in "your own back yard"? Private property is not allowed, comrade.
Sun Mar 8, 2026, 09:57 PM
11 hrs ago

You will be relocated to work camps owned by the best plutocrats money can buy.

Hoe and till our land until you fall exhausted. Then you will replenish our soils.

Funny how extreme capitalism seems very similar to communism as practiced by putin/xi. The in-crowd gets the spoils.

OGBuzz

(223 posts)
13. Musk has stated that within 20 years....
Sun Mar 8, 2026, 10:01 PM
11 hrs ago

A.I. and humanoid robots will replace almost all jobs which humans do. At that point will we become just 8 billion useless air breathers to the Barons?

Maybe those Georgia Guidestones foretold something after all:
“Maintain humanity under 500,000,000 in perpetual balance with nature.”
Maybe that's their ultimate goal.

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