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The above was the Title of an issue of an email newsletter I receive form military.com. Different types of newsletters cover different issues. There's DoD Insider, Deals and Discounts, Military Report and others.
This issue really disturbed me because of the Title. Yes, the Submarines were always called the "Silent Service" but that's not because the deaths were silent. Those sailors, enemy or not, did not die silently. They died screaming and crying, most probably by drowning, many probably calling to their mothers or their Allah to save them. Deaths in war are not silent. Doesn't matter if you are shot with a bullet, blown up by a shell, hit by a bomb blast or drown as your ship sinks around you and you can't get out. You die in violence.
The submarines may be silent, but the deaths are not. They are never silent, whether they be Americans or any enemy no matter how cruel they individually were, or, more likely, what they believed they were doing was for the right cause and without personal liability for the cruelty of their fellow fighters. Most likely, they were just human beings doing what they believed in, whether it was misguided, wrong or just because they were caught up in the Hell of War.
The article was just factual as most good reporting is. The words "Silent Death" belong to the monster Hegseth who deserves to be tried by a tribunal for war crimes.
Blues Heron
(8,686 posts)Submariner
(13,343 posts)unarmed ship that was not a threat to anyones safety, returning from a Naval exposition with other unarmed Navies meeting in India, many will likely feel they are in the same situation as the Aegis cruiser that shot down the Iranian Airbus decades ago, and will be pissed for being used as political pawns.
You volunteer for the submarine service because you want to go against the best China and Russia can throw at you. Not wasting an unarmed ship returning to home port, just as the last three FBI 302 reports regarding the 13 year old trump rape victim emerge.
Renew Deal
(84,966 posts)There wasn't really any other valid rationale.
ForgedCrank
(3,082 posts)it appears to be in my view. I can't think of a good reason to reveal the position of an SSN just to eliminate such a target. Of course, I don't know what other equipment was on station in that area either, could be that it was the only asset in that area at the time.
Melon
(1,449 posts)They dont know where its headed and back to Iran is our fleet. Just sayin.
Skittles
(171,052 posts)Emrys
(9,087 posts)Not something to brag about, but the UK hunter-killer submarine HMS Conqueror sank the Argentinian cruiser General Belgrano with the loss of 323 lives on May 2 1982 during the Falklands War.