I'm so sick of Israel

[luv2fly]

Yeah yeah I know, our strongest/sole Mideast ally, blah blah blah, I no longer care. Their atrocities just continue to mount and the warhawks love them while sane people detest their warmongering, genocidal atrocities. I am tired of decades of OUR money supporting them and so now, go ahead and flame away if you must... I don't care.

Brief rant over.

[Dunc]

1. I am in agreement with you.

[Bread and Circuses]

2. This country is serving the interest of a foreign country at our peril.

[Scrivener7]

7. That's the issue.

[3_Limes]

3. You're in good company.

And they really have earned our distaste. It's amazing to me to see the change in my own attitude over the years. I was once a very strong supporter. But at some point, you have to bow to reality.

[Whip-poor-will]

4. religion

No matter what religion worship in a house of worship not a military operation..

Keep your religion to yourself . I don't want my tax dollars pushing your religion down someone Elise's throat at my expense.

[Skittles]

9. THANK YOU

I too am tired of people using their ridiculous delusions for bigotry, politics, war, etc.............UGH!!!!! ENOUGH ALREADY.

[malaise]

22. Ding ding

But remember that their belief systems merely facilitate plunder, resource and land theft. They all worship two things - power and wealth.

[ColoringFool]

24. Am I Misunderstanding, Or Are You Saying That Judaism....

"facilitate[s] plunder, resource and land theft"?

Who are the "They all"?

[ColoringFool]

23. Israel Has Never Attempted "pushing" Judaism "down"....

Anyone else's "throat." The thought is risible.

Prove me wrong.

[31st Street Bridge]

37. Israel doesn't

But Hollywood sure does.
I just watched the new movie "Nuremberg" only to be reminded over and over again about 6 million Holocaust deaths.
That was certainly a horrible, factual atrocity.
But so were the deaths of 60 million other people in WW2. The fire bombing of Dresden, the vaporizing of tens of thousands of civilians at Hiroshima and Nagasaki, the Nazi brutalizing of Soviet soldiers and citizens were also "crimes against humanity."

Hey, Israel: We ALL have been victims.
Just ask the Cherokee. Or the Ukrainians who died in Stalin's Holodomor.
Or the Catholics burned at the stake by Protestants and vice versa.
And the victims of brutal American slavery in the so-called "Land of the Free"!

/My rant over.

[Whip-poor-will]

41. God's Chosen people

I'll go there .

I've heard since I don't know when " God' Chosen People ",it creates another who is lessor in God's eyes.

All God's are God's children each worthy or they're not , end of story.

[Scrivener7]

5. I'm sick of Netanyahu and his ilk.

[PCIntern]

8. Worse?

In what Universe is anything occurring over there worse than what the Nazis performed during the Holocaust ?

No hyperbole required here. Things are bad enough.

[Whip-poor-will]

11. Nukes

Using nukes where EVERYONE is incinerated is not worse ?

[ColoringFool]

25. "Nukes" Are Not Occurring. Thus, Cannot Be Worse. Also,....

Americans need to get off their high horse until they condemn Dresden, Hiroshima, and Nagasaki, without any reference to "But we needed to save future lives in a possible future invasion."

Or Iraq.

[Whip-poor-will]

42. Nukes are not occurring ?????

Is that a guarantee ?

[BigmanPigman]

10. I think pretty much that most Americans are not fans by now.

Wasn't he supposed to be on his way out? Is he pulling a "tRump distraction" to save his own ass in his own country?
Edit:
*I just saw this ad in my gmail...

"FREE U.S. – Israel Flag Pin
You can show your solidarity with Israel and the Jewish people by requesting your FREE US-Israel Flag Pin. Wear it proudly everywhere you go to show your unwavering support of Israel and Her people".

If you really want the link to buy one I can provide it bit I doubt there will be many requests.

[hlthe2b]

12. Netanyahu, like Trump has done more to hurt his people than any intentional campaign could do.

Both are corrupt. Both care only about their own personal interests, exploiting war to do so, and both have engendered more hate for their own people worldwide than any intentional campaign designed specifically to do so- that I could imagine could do.

This will be generational.

[617Blue]

15. Bibi is a dictator and has held power forever

[3_Limes]

21. Hadn't really thought about it that way, but you're 100% correct.

There's been sooooo much worry over the years about propaganda from various anti-Israel sources turning the west against Israel. But that kinda strengthened my support. What turned me was the Netanyahu/Ganz fascism and war mongering. They did this themselves. They shredded immense good will, and I hope they reap exactly what they've earned.

[617Blue]

13. Israel is just as much a dictatorship as the other states in the region

They're no longer a democracy. Bibi has been in power for 30 years

[FoxNewsSucks]

14. that's exactly how I feel

[Akakoji]

16. Understandable, but how is anything done by this current Republican administration

Or the far right Iranian Islamic Republic at all different? Id like to see the leaders of Iran, Israel and the U.S. overthrown and forced to pay for their atrocities in our names. Only we can do that by voting, making noise daily, and forming tight alliances with those that agree with us. It’s fantastic that most Israelis are our allies, don’t you think? Please be very specific when you rant? It can be a good thing, but non-specificity can get a lot of people hurt.

[AloeVera]

29. Most Israelis support Trump. They celebrated his election.

That should tell you something.

Jewish Americans, OTOH, support Democrats, though Trump's support in that demographic increased in the last election, driven by the Orthodox community.

[3_Limes]

31. American Jews generally aupport Dems. American zionists, however

Just love MAGA. And that includes the Christian zionists who need Israel to exist so that there end times fantasies can be fulfilled.

[AloeVera]

34. Good point!

And Trump is of course beholden to his evangelical base. As well as his fanatically pro-Israel Zionist (is that redundant?) donors. Like Miriam Adelson, who donated $100 million to his campaign and who was standing right behind him at his first inauguration. Not sure where she was at the second one, but not far behind I'm sure. It is thanks to the influence and pressure of the Adelson family that the embassy was moved to Jerusalem and Golan Heights was annexed. Adelson and others are now pushing for West Bank annexation.

My viw of evangelicals? They should all move to Israel and wait for the end times there. I'm sure they would enjoy both the wait and the event.

[Scrivener7]

40. Which shows the error of when people refer to "the Jews" as if they are a bloc. They aren't.

[malaise]

17. You are not alone

That is all

[2naSalit]

18. Been there for...

Many years and I am getting sicker of them by the hour.

[perdita9]

19. I support the people of Israel....

But not their government. The same goes for Gaza. I support the Palestinians but not the Hamas members who are in charge.

And right now, all over the world, people are saying, “I support the American people but not the fascist dictator in the White House.

Everyone needs to get smarter about who they put into office.

[Danmel]

20. My feelings too

[poozwah]

26. birds of a feather

when two jailbirds, netanyahu and trump, are leading israel and the united states, it must beexpected that not just you, but the entire world is sick of them and their countries.

[infullview]

27. It's bad and getting worse. Has everyone read this?

https://www.google.com/url?q=https://militarnyi.com/en/news/usa-doomsday-plane-e-6b-mercury-middle-east/&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwjm1LCg4pKTAxVJ1fACHftjAxYQFnoECAgQAg&usg=AOvVaw2IFjuudwuaxXEw3vHss_N2

[Johnny2X2X]

28. I just don't see what we get from this special relationship anymore

What has America got from being their attack dog in the region for the last 60 years?

An Israeli military leader was on TV a week ago and said that, "We (Israel) haven't decided if the US will have boots on the ground yet." A foreign country is deciding if US men and women will die fighting to defend them from a threat that was contained.

[Ferrets are Cool]

44. TBH, what have we EVER gotten from it?

[Snoopy 7]

30. $3.8 BILLION

That is what we send to Israel each year. And what do they do with that money (?) the give all their citizens PUBLIC HEALTH CARE and ABORTION is legal. They have the 5th largest MILITARY on this world. So why don't we have public health care and abortion if Israel is such a great nation to use as a worldly example of what every country should aspire to be.

[3_Limes]

33. I think that part of the reason that we're so generous w Israel has to do with

Christian zionists who require Israel to exist so that their end times fantasies can come true.

[AloeVera]

35. But they are Trump voters.

So...

Campaign financing and Empire geopolitical interests are the issue. They transcend party lines.

[no_hypocrisy]

32. And I'm tired of our tax dollars going to Israel for the reason

that "It's the only democracy in the Mid-East."

Well, it's not a democracy. Israel doesn't recognize Arabs as citizens. Israel purposely displaces Arabs for Jewish settlers. Arabs have a very limited role in government. Israel is essentially a theocracy as fundamentalist Jews have a strong coalition in the government and Netanyahu supports them.

You know which country HAD a democracy? Iran. Until 1952, when it nationalized the oil reserves, and the CIA replaced Iran's democracy with a monarch.

[AloeVera]

39. Agree with everything you say and not to nit-pick...

Just because someone will chime in with a half-truth..

About citizenship, the Arab population of Israel proper does have citizenship. They call themseles Palestinian Citizens of Israel.

But the catch is they don't have EQUAL citizenship to Jewish Israelis who are the only ones granted the right to self-determination.

The 1992 Basic Law of Human Dignity and Freedom (like a Bill of Rights) establishes Israel as a state of the "Jewish people". Not its citizens. So where do Palestinians fit in to a bill that touts HUMAN freedom and dignity? Where is THEIR state?

In addition, dozens of laws priviledge Jewish Israelis over Palestinians, who also get inferior state services. Palestinian kids do poorly in school because they receive vastly inferior education. (Compare that to Gaza, where literacy and post-secondary completion rates are sky high). There are as many as 45 pre-Israel, old Palestinian villages that receive no state services like water and electricity at all. The list of inequalities goes on and on.

To top it all off, most Israelis want their Palestinian "citizens " to skedaddle and be gone from the "state of the Jewish people". At some point, that is what will happen, "citizenship" or not.

[RedWhiteBlueIsRacist]

43. That part of the world is a clusterfuck of aryanism. Ancient mythmakers placed a penis on aryanism and called it:

Abraham. Synagogues, churches, mosques that teach Abraham as a man/person are deceivers. Abe isn't the only thing they lie about. People should start questioning these so-called places of worship.