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Doodley

(11,866 posts)
Thu Mar 12, 2026, 07:41 AM 4 hrs ago

Is the Trump-Epstein war on Iran the biggest political mistake in modern history or part of the fascist takeover plan?

No end in sight, oil supply in crisis, gas prices, inflation, total incompetence, inconsistent reasoning of war, lack of credible evidence, lack of planning, likely escalation and more casualties -- all this from a president who was already upside down on all his election promises.

What does this mean for midterm elections?
How far will they go to cheat, suppress or delay the midterm elections?
Does this guarantee they usher in even more fascism to America and increase Trump's power, bringing us nearer to dictatorship?
Or will it be the undoing of MAGA?

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Is the Trump-Epstein war on Iran the biggest political mistake in modern history or part of the fascist takeover plan? (Original Post) Doodley 4 hrs ago OP
Right now, I would still say the invasion of Iraq was the biggest blunder. everyonematters 4 hrs ago #1
From a purely political POV, W was able to be re-elected the year after the war started. He had the advantage over Doodley 4 hrs ago #5
Both? Swede 4 hrs ago #2
This. This right here is the answer. ms liberty 2 hrs ago #11
I posted numerous times gab13by13 4 hrs ago #3
Thank you for your insight. I hope that happens! Doodley 3 hrs ago #6
The only problem Trumpsters have with the midterms AnnaLee 4 hrs ago #4
Probably both, and a distraction too Johnny2X2X 3 hrs ago #7
Also one big reason he went to war gab13by13 3 hrs ago #10
He has to take over to protect his decrepit pedo ass Ponietz 3 hrs ago #8
Iranian drones aren't coming to California, that's BS gab13by13 3 hrs ago #9
Yes, "Iranian" Ponietz 2 hrs ago #12
Both. yardwork 2 hrs ago #13

Doodley

(11,866 posts)
5. From a purely political POV, W was able to be re-elected the year after the war started. He had the advantage over
Thu Mar 12, 2026, 08:16 AM
4 hrs ago

Trump in having a wave of 9/11 support, justifying the war (although on falsified intelligence), addressing America, building a very broad coalition, and bipartisan support, although the quagmire that resulted brought him down to record disapproval. Unlike Bush, Trump is paying a heavy price right from the start and it will get a lot worse.

gab13by13

(32,009 posts)
3. I posted numerous times
Thu Mar 12, 2026, 07:55 AM
4 hrs ago

that if Krasnov went to war with Iran that it would be his downfall.

What I meant by that was that a significant number of unwashed Magats would join with us in opposing Krasnov. With that said, of course Krasnov's only way out would be to go whole hog dictatorship. So my answer to your question is that both things could happen.

The only way to throw out the billionaires and save our democracy is for the people to rise up, politicians aren't going to save us.

So yeah, more unwashed Americans have turned on Krasnov, we have a bigger army to fight against his authoritarian takeover.
The Joe Rogons and Tucker Carlsons of the right wing news media have turned against Krasnov because of the war and that is a BFD.

AnnaLee

(1,378 posts)
4. The only problem Trumpsters have with the midterms
Thu Mar 12, 2026, 08:10 AM
4 hrs ago

is the race, the timetable, for seizing control over the results. They are, after all, the political equivalent of bank robbers with unlimited fire power.

Johnny2X2X

(24,083 posts)
7. Probably both, and a distraction too
Thu Mar 12, 2026, 08:28 AM
3 hrs ago

Distraction from Epstein, but also from a hundred other things like ICE and all the $billions in grifting. A distraction from the collapsing economy and also an excuse from it.

It's a huge mistake for our country, and I think this regime thought it would somehow be like Venezuela where they took down the leader and the regime just kept the same only they got some oil for their pals. Trump was convinced by people that Iran would be easy and they could then negotiate oil deals with whatever dictator was left in charge.

gab13by13

(32,009 posts)
10. Also one big reason he went to war
Thu Mar 12, 2026, 09:05 AM
3 hrs ago

was the fact that he showed he could go to war and no one stopped him. His going to war with Iran on his own was another step towards autocracy, however, it will be harder for him to blame someone else when things go south.

I see that Iran is threatening to attack banks in Qatar and the UAE. I wonder if they attack that bank in Qatar where Krasnov put his oil money from Venezuela? Maybe that's also where the tariff money is?

Ponietz

(4,276 posts)
8. He has to take over to protect his decrepit pedo ass
Thu Mar 12, 2026, 08:41 AM
3 hrs ago

He’ll be protecting Israel, too, since JE was their operative. He will declare martial law when Iranian drones reach American soil.

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