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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsA thought. Had we really partnered with Ukraine,
we would have learned how they advanced to modern warfare.
Putin is another story.
Deuxcents
(26,546 posts)Socially and emotionally. He has always been a disaster as a person.
usonian
(24,855 posts)
cachukis
(3,886 posts)happen. We have allowed ourselves to be led by this megalomania.
History will examine and maybe discover why this happened for those bemused by this time, but we are living it.
Why are we not, with our deep aspectoralizations, able to guide our replacements to consider the consequences?
That is where we are.
We could have honored Ukraine's defense of our world, but didn't.
We are not escaping this fiasco for quite some time. The rules don't work anymore.
usonian
(24,855 posts)Why do you think that movies are full of violence and "social media" abound in hate and vilification?
Hate sells. It arouses. It blinds people to what's their own good, and hands off their souls to a vile manipulator.
In short, a cult.
Democrats play "by the rules" but the rules don't work against cults.

People vote against their own and the country's best interests.
So they can live vicariously through the uncivilized hate figure.
Be advised.
Irish_Dem
(80,940 posts)The US needs Ukraine right now.
How to fight an asymmetrical modern war.
WarGamer
(18,542 posts)Unless you're looking at the Iranians like the Ukrainians
Irish_Dem
(80,940 posts)Iran will use cyber attacks, terrorist attacks, drones, and any other unconventional strategies it can come up with.
BannonsLiver
(20,494 posts)usonian
(24,855 posts)He and his henchmen fired as many qualified people as they could find.
It was all a setup to create KAOS and a state of emergency.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100220295160
May 2025. Some things changed A LITTLE.
Irish_Dem
(80,940 posts)He is the best expert in the world on every topic known to man.
WarGamer
(18,542 posts)cachukis
(3,886 posts)GreatGazoo
(4,564 posts)We have seen the Iranian drones and the Russian versions in combat there for the last three years.
"Western militaries have long offered training and equipment to the countrys armed forces. According to a recent New York Times report, the US has more than 150 military advisers in the country, including special forces troopers."
https://cepa.org/article/the-ties-that-bind-western-advisers-in-ukraine/
It's a proxy war. We have had "advisors" in Ukraine since 2014 and we added more at the outbreak of that war. It's our gear, our satellites, our intel and our tactics.
cachukis
(3,886 posts)But there have been opportunities lost as our commander in chief has an aversion to assisting Zelenskyy and has never done anything to aid in the negotiations to defend Ukraine right to sovereignty.
Putin, with, in my estimation, a stronger western perspective, notably NATO and EU considerations that Ukraine has longed for, could have been stymied some time ago.
And now, we up the ante by filling Putin's coffers.
We have been more silent than wise.
Furthermore, my point was we could have learned the ins and outs of drone warfare and how the battlefield has changed with today's weaponry.
GreatGazoo
(4,564 posts)I'm unclear why you think the USA doesn't have access to that learning. USA admits to having "more than 150" troops and special forces in Ukraine.
These guys cover the Ukraine war day by day in detail:
https://understandingwar.org/research/russia-ukraine/russian-offensive-campaign-assessment-march-12-2026/
That much is shared publicly. I assume what is shared institutionally is much more in depth, especially with respect to weapons development and effective counter measures.
Pentagon has a double agent embedded on the Russian side as well. The Russians know it so they use his channel for propaganda but the Pentagon is getting info from that arrangement as well or else they would not allow it and would shut down the Youtube channel. "From 2001 to 2006 he was a sailor in the US Navy specializing as a cryptologic technician." Military intelligence is a tangled web but nothing going on in the Ukraine war is a secret to the USA. This is one of his wilder reports on drone warfare in Ukraine: